Re: Jason Kidd, Knicks Have 'Mutual Interest'

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Jason Kidd, Knicks Have 'Mutual Interest' 

Post#1 » by RealGM Wiretap » Mon Jun 9, 2025 6:39 pm

Jason Kidd and the New York Knicks have mutual interest as the franchise searches for a new head coach after parting ways with Tom Thibodeau. The Knicks are expected to reach out to the Dallas Mavericks about Kidd.


"The way I would describe this is there's mutual intrigue on both sides," said Brian Windhorst on Monday's Sports Center.


Kidd led the Mavericks to the Finals in 2024 and signed a new contract extension with the franchise during their run. It remains to be seen how the Mavericks will handle the Knicks' interest.


Kidd angled for his exit as head coach of the Brooklyn Nets to join the Milwaukee Bucks in 2014 where he went on to coach a young Giannis Antetokounmpo. Kidd was fired by the Bucks in 2018 and he then became an assistant coach with the Los Angeles Lakers under Frank Vogel. Kidd was hired as head coach of the Mavericks in 2021 to replace Rick Carlisle. 

Via Brian Windhorst/ESPN

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Re: Jason Kidd, Knicks Have 'Mutual Interest' 

Post#2 » by Pickled Prunes » Mon Jun 9, 2025 7:31 pm

Of all the Knicks things to do! Those two deserve each other!

Kidd has a career coaching record of .519, and he's always had stars on his roster: KG, Pierce, Deron Williams, Giannis, Middleton, Luka, Porzingis, Kyrie, AD.... and Matthew Dellavedova! :lol:

He is not a good coach!
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Re: Jason Kidd, Knicks Have 'Mutual Interest' 

Post#3 » by pushfloater » Mon Jun 9, 2025 7:43 pm

Idk why they want him over Udoka. Would be a bad look for the Mavs if he leaves though.
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Post#4 » by EmpireFW » Mon Jun 9, 2025 8:05 pm

Pickled Prunes wrote:Of all the Knicks things to do! Those two deserve each other!

Kidd has a career coaching record of .519, and he's always had stars on his roster: KG, Pierce, Deron Williams, Giannis, Middleton, Luka, Porzingis, Kyrie, AD.... and Matthew Dellavedova! :lol:

He is not a good coach!


Wouldn't be my first choice, but describing him as a bad coach is quite the exaggeration.
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Post#5 » by Pickled Prunes » Mon Jun 9, 2025 10:30 pm

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Pickled Prunes wrote:Of all the Knicks things to do! Those two deserve each other!

Kidd has a career coaching record of .519, and he's always had stars on his roster: KG, Pierce, Deron Williams, Giannis, Middleton, Luka, Porzingis, Kyrie, AD.... and Matthew Dellavedova! :lol:

He is not a good coach!


Wouldn't be my first choice, but describing him as a bad coach is quite the exaggeration.

How so? Kidd is #103 in coaches by w/l%. There have only been 19 coaches in the history of the NBA that have a lower w/l% and have coached more years. Very few of those coaches have had a Garnett, a Giannis or a Luka on the roster. Kidd has had one in every season. He's not great!
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Post#6 » by Nate the Great » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:17 am

So, another coach who has been criticized for not using his bench. I guess that wasn’t the problem after all.

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Post#7 » by Enzo954 » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:20 am

pushfloater wrote:Idk why they want him over Udoka. Would be a bad look for the Mavs if he leaves though.


Udoka doesn't want to leave the Rockets. It's not that the Knicks don't want him.
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Post#8 » by Jesus_H_Macy » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:36 am

Comedy. Being a Suns fan I have little room to talk RE: franchise incompetence, but if I was a Mavs fan I'd be praying that the Knicks were dumb enough and Harrison smart enough to trade them J-Kidd
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Post#9 » by Jesus_H_Macy » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:40 am

Article should say "Doncic led the Mavericks to the Finals in 2024 in a weird down year where Denver had too many injuries and OKC was too inexperienced to know how to win". Doubt J-Kidd had much to do with it
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Post#10 » by BigTex » Tue Jun 10, 2025 1:06 am

Jesus_H_Macy wrote:Comedy. Being a Suns fan I have little room to talk RE: franchise incompetence, but if I was a Mavs fan I'd be praying that the Knicks were dumb enough and Harrison smart enough to trade them J-Kidd


Harrison? Smart? Not even close. He’ll probably give the Knicks a draft pick not to talk to Kidd.
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Post#11 » by Lee in Oregon » Tue Jun 10, 2025 7:19 am

I hope they get him, they deserve eachother. I look forward to seeing Kidd spilling cokes on the gym floor in MSG.
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Post#12 » by arasu » Tue Jun 10, 2025 8:32 am

Pickled Prunes wrote:
EmpireFW wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:Of all the Knicks things to do! Those two deserve each other!

Kidd has a career coaching record of .519, and he's always had stars on his roster: KG, Pierce, Deron Williams, Giannis, Middleton, Luka, Porzingis, Kyrie, AD.... and Matthew Dellavedova! :lol:

He is not a good coach!


Wouldn't be my first choice, but describing him as a bad coach is quite the exaggeration.

How so? Kidd is #103 in coaches by w/l%. There have only been 19 coaches in the history of the NBA that have a lower w/l% and have coached more years. Very few of those coaches have had a Garnett, a Giannis or a Luka on the roster. Kidd has had one in every season. He's not great!


KG on his last legs. Baby versions of Giannis and Luka? C'mon now! Dude helped make Giannis and Luka into superstars. He coached an underwhelming roster to the Finals. Kidd is a good coach. Not great, but good
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Re: Jason Kidd, Knicks Have 'Mutual Interest' 

Post#13 » by Tamimi » Tue Jun 10, 2025 11:50 am

Why go for Kidd when they have an even better coach: Doc Rivers! :)

I just feel bad for Bronson and Hart as I've grown to like them over the last 2 years.
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Post#14 » by jstudabaka » Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:50 pm

Knicks fan here: Zero intrigue, but rather dread that the bad old days have returned of Dolan meddling and front office bumbling.
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Post#15 » by Bolsolixo » Tue Jun 10, 2025 2:01 pm

I don't think that Thibs would be capable to lead them to a ring, too. But they should have noticed that there is no great name available this offseason. I would not bring someone without NBA experience but at the same time it's hard to imagine Kidd raising their chances of making It to the finals
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Post#16 » by Barcs » Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:03 pm

Mutual intrigue? LOL. How hard do they want to feed knicks fans this narrative? It's not happening.
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Re: Jason Kidd, Knicks Have 'Mutual Interest' 

Post#17 » by Pickled Prunes » Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:54 pm

arasu wrote:
Pickled Prunes wrote:
EmpireFW wrote:
Wouldn't be my first choice, but describing him as a bad coach is quite the exaggeration.

How so? Kidd is #103 in coaches by w/l%. There have only been 19 coaches in the history of the NBA that have a lower w/l% and have coached more years. Very few of those coaches have had a Garnett, a Giannis or a Luka on the roster. Kidd has had one in every season. He's not great!


KG on his last legs. Baby versions of Giannis and Luka? C'mon now! Dude helped make Giannis and Luka into superstars. He coached an underwhelming roster to the Finals. Kidd is a good coach. Not great, but good

BRK won 49 games (and Garnett was an all-star in BOS) the season before Kidd took over. BRK added Pierce and Garnett and won 44 games. Yes, they lost Brook Lopez in Dec but they had a losing record (7-10) when he wend down.

Kidd took over a young Bucks team and coached there for four seasons. They won 41, 33, 42 and 23 of 45(a 41.5 win pace) games and finished with a 4-8 (.333) playoff record. Pretty stagnant growth. Bud took over in 2018 and they made a 16 game jump, winning 60, 56 (of 73), 46 (of 72), 51 and 58 games, finishing with a 39-26 (.600) playoff record and winning a title in year three. That's a good coach, despite the PHX debacle!

By the time Kidd took over in DAL, Luka was a two-time all-star that had averaged 28-8-9 the prior season. Baby version? He was a full fledged superstar on day one... but with better leadership, he might not be as entitled as he is today. He pushed Carlisle out because he wanted his own way. The Covid years make this weird but, under Carlisle they went 33-48 (.402), 43-32 (.573) and 42-30 (.583). That is consistent growth. Kidd rode on his coat tails but quickly proved inconsistent, winning 52 (.634), 38 (.463), 50 (.610) and 39 (.476) games. Now the coach Luka didn't want is in the Finals with no superstars (or possibly the "most overrated" superstar), and tied 1-1 with the most stacked team in the NBA.... that's a good coach! :wink:

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