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[3toheadmelo]

I'm not sure where you gleaned that understanding from though. There is ton of reporting that Kidd is interested. Even if you don't believe those reporters, the real smoking gun is that this process is continuing.

Do I think Kidd is an upgrade over Thibs as an Xs and O's guy? No, but I don't think Thibs was necessarily a bad one.

I do think Kidd will definitely be more collaborative with the FO than Thibs and I think that is what this is really about.

This is what stein said the other day so I’m not sure Kidd really wants to leave.

Kidd, though, is believed to be happy in Dallas despite the extreme tumult of the past season, which saw the Mavericks stun the entire league and deeply wound huge segments of their fan base by trading Dončić to the Lakers without warning on Feb. 2. He has spoken often in recent weeks about his excitement for the opportunity to coach Duke phenom Cooper Flagg, who is poised to be selected No. 1 overall by the Mavericks in this month's NBA Draft.

Kidd's presence in Dallas has been frequently cited as a key factor in the success of its trade gamble to acquire Kyrie Irving in February 2023 to pair him with Dončić. Irving is known to relish playing for Kidd, who likewise has a strong relationship with new Mavericks cornerstone Anthony Davis. Irving, who holds a $44 million player option for next season that he must activate or bypass by June 29, is expected to negotiate a new contract with Dallas this summer.

I guess I could probably live with Kidd. But if we can’t get him that’s going to be pretty interesting to see what their backup plan is

Stein is one guy, who is clearly being sourced by the Mavs, who have their own agenda in the situation.

I can post Windy, Bondy, and a few other NY sources that say differently.

If we can't get him then I'm sure we have other options, but I don't think we'd be spending this much time on him if there wasn't already knowledge about where he stands.

You do have some good points

[3toheadmelo]

if you get kidd bring woody back to the bench

F it sign me up

Bring priggy smalls back too

[Jeff Van Gully]

He lost me when he made a video about why the Knicks won't come back from a 3-1 deficit vs the Pacers. I mean, yeah they probably won't but just be neutral and report tidibits, man.

katz did opinion stuff all the time. it was just well received and generally trusted. edwards is a new face and clearly not a knick fan. if anything, he's more neutral.

and i strongly prefer reading katz to edwards.

When he was announced as the new guy, he was soooo thrilled with it (not). I thought that was just his dry as sand personality, but the more I read his stuff, the more obnoxious it sounded. He's a Michigan boy, so his you can reason that his dream job was writing about the Pistons. But he has such a **** attitude towards the Knicks, it's damn near a disservice. I don't expect sunshine and blue skies, but he just seems to stir ish up.

i feel the vibes y'all feel. i think part of it his personality. but we also had a great writer, engaging personality, and knick fan doing a great job for a long time. katz was a big loss. we feel it through these playoffs and coaching search.

and while edwards is still working, he's been open about doing so begrudgingly because it's cost him some vacation plans. lol. though, that's been the vibe (tongue-in-cheek) from everyone covering the knicks in the wake of thibs' firing.

[sol537]

Kidd is a better coach than Thibs, period.

He has had DAL playing excellent defense most of the time even with Luka and Kyrie in the mix. He's also reached the finals once and WCF twice, I believe. His offense is also more varied than what Thibs runs and Kidd is more open to experimentation and adjustments. Kidd is also younger than Thibs and Kidd, as a hall of fame NBA PG, garners more respect/admiration from current players. He's not perfect, but he's definitely better than Thibs IMO.

I do think more free agents & players in general would rather play for Kidd in NY than for Thibs. My 2 cents.

[MrDollarBills]

the narrative is now circling to the mavs being in a better situation than the knicks? after being clowned for historical mismanagement up until their head coach was in contention for a knicks job?

People have agendas man. There's no way you can look at Dallas and say that they're remotely a better situation

[TheGreenArrow]

This is what stein said the other day so I’m not sure Kidd really wants to leave.


I guess I could probably live with Kidd. But if we can’t get him that’s going to be pretty interesting to see what their backup plan is

Stein is one guy, who is clearly being sourced by the Mavs, who have their own agenda in the situation.

I can post Windy, Bondy, and a few other NY sources that say differently.

If we can't get him then I'm sure we have other options, but I don't think we'd be spending this much time on him if there wasn't already knowledge about where he stands.

You do have some good points

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[knicksstuff]

katz did opinion stuff all the time. it was just well received and generally trusted. edwards is a new face and clearly not a knick fan. if anything, he's more neutral.

and i strongly prefer reading katz to edwards.

When he was announced as the new guy, he was soooo thrilled with it (not). I thought that was just his dry as sand personality, but the more I read his stuff, the more obnoxious it sounded. He's a Michigan boy, so his you can reason that his dream job was writing about the Pistons. But he has such a **** attitude towards the Knicks, it's damn near a disservice. I don't expect sunshine and blue skies, but he just seems to stir ish up.

i feel the vibes y'all feel. i think part of it his personality. but we also had a great writer, engaging personality, and knick fan doing a great job for a long time. katz was a big loss. we feel it through these playoffs and coaching search.

and while edwards is still working, he's been open about doing so begrudgingly because it's cost him some vacation plans. lol. though, that's been the vibe (tongue-in-cheek) from everyone covering the knicks in the wake of thibs' firing.

That pistons series made me lose all respect for him as a Knicks beat writer. He was actively rooting for the Pistons which is fine hes a detroit guy but when you let it seep into your writing and reporting just bad professionalism.

[Gravy]

Kidd is a better coach than Thibs, period.

He has had DAL playing excellent defense most of the time even with Luka and Kyrie in the mix. He's also reached the finals once and WCF twice, I believe. His offense is also more varied than what Thibs runs and Kidd is more open to experimentation and adjustments. Kidd is also younger than Thibs and Kidd, as a hall of fame NBA PG, garners more respect/admiration from current players. He's not perfect, but he's definitely better than Thibs IMO.

I do think more free agents & players in general would rather play for Kidd in NY than for Thibs. My 2 cents.

Thibs Knicks has had a higher offensive rating than Kidd's Mavs each of the last three years. This is including last year when the Knicks had all those injuries. Kidd also lost in 5 games to the same Celtics team Thibs just beat in the playoffs. Kidd had two generational players in Luka and Kyrie, we dont have one.

[TheGreenArrow]

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[WargamesX]

I think there is fire around Kidd but all parties were told to stop talking about it during finals. It’s taking away from the series and the series isn’t doing well to begin with.

After the finals I expect this to be resolved on way or another.

I also think if Kidd says he wants out the Mavs will abide him. The reputation hit alone wouldnt be worth it not to mention who wants a HC who doesn’t want to be there?

[Woodsanity]

Maybe I am crazy but I rather gamble on Bryant than go for Kidd....

[rajajackal]

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what a slimeball. perfect tampering partner for don león

[Fury]

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Yeah, he's coming

Jason Kidd was my favorite player when I was younger. Hopefully he can help deliver a title for the Knicks.

[mpharris36]

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Yeah, he's coming

Jason Kidd was my favorite player when I was younger. Hopefully he can help deliver a title for the Knicks.

Stein is the only one that seems to be reporting that there is no interest from Kidd's perspective...interesting.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Kidd is a better coach than Thibs, period.

He has had DAL playing excellent defense most of the time even with Luka and Kyrie in the mix. He's also reached the finals once and WCF twice, I believe. His offense is also more varied than what Thibs runs and Kidd is more open to experimentation and adjustments. Kidd is also younger than Thibs and Kidd, as a hall of fame NBA PG, garners more respect/admiration from current players. He's not perfect, but he's definitely better than Thibs IMO.

I do think more free agents & players in general would rather play for Kidd in NY than for Thibs. My 2 cents.

Thibs Knicks has had a higher offensive rating than Kidd's Mavs each of the last three years. This is including last year when the Knicks had all those injuries. Kidd also lost in 5 games to the same Celtics team Thibs just beat in the playoffs. Kidd had two generational players in Luka and Kyrie, we dont have one.

Thibs is gone and never coming back

At least Kidd got his team to the finals, and did it in less time with the Mavs. As far as I can tell none of the Mavs have come forward and said they don't know if they will be able to play for him next year either.

[Guano]

if you get kidd bring woody back to the bench

Rather just hire woody

[3toheadmelo]

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Yeah, he's coming

Jason Kidd was my favorite player when I was younger. Hopefully he can help deliver a title for the Knicks.

Stein is the only one that seems to be reporting that there is no interest from Kidd's perspective...interesting.

Has shams said anything? I know windhorst said there’s mutual interest, but he’s a bit iffy as a real source imo

[MrDollarBills]

What's Next for New York?
Coaching Candidates
Thibs' Firing Raises Questions
I research organizations and culture. Here’s a lesson the Knicks should heed
By Spencer Harrison

June 7, 2025
Editor’s note: This story is part of Peak, The Athletic’s desk covering leadership, personal development and success through the lens of sports. Follow Peak here.

Spencer Harrison is a professor of organizational behavior at INSEAD and an expert on culture. He is also an NBA fan who grew up in Salt Lake City during the John Stockton-Karl Malone era of the Utah Jazz.

In March, a story about the New York Knicks caught my attention. Mikal Bridges, one of the team’s starters, said he had gone to his coach, Tom Thibodeau, and asked him to ease the heavy minutes Bridges was playing.

“Sometimes it’s not fun on the body,” Bridges said.

What interested me is what happened next. Bridges said that he and Thibodeau had spoken about his workload. But Thibodeau told reporters the two “never had a conversation about it.”

As someone who studies the cultures of businesses and organizations, I found Thibodeau’s response telling. To me, it suggested a stubbornness and unwillingness to consider other options, as if the conversation wasn’t even worth having. And it reminded me of leadership and organizational issues we see in the business world.

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aw man. I was just kidding about this

[MrDollarBills]

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Yeah, he's coming

Jason Kidd was my favorite player when I was younger. Hopefully he can help deliver a title for the Knicks.

....before the next job opportunity comes along

[3toheadmelo]

if you get kidd bring woody back to the bench

Rather just hire woody

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