The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[Ghost of Kleine]

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If the Knicks are serious about Durant -- OG would need to come to the Suns. Period.

Unless it was something like Bridges, Robinson and Hart

I'd be ok with either Anunoby or Bridges and Robinson. But the Knicks would need to close the value gap with at least the DET 26' ( Top 14 protected) 1st or their own 26' 1st and a couple of 2nds. I honestly don't care about a Kolek inclusion because there will be plenty of quality guard options throughout the draft and free agency.

And honestly, Gillespie is fairly better in a variety of ways. We should look to resign him.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I wouldn't want Robinson. He's played less than 50 regular season games in the last two seasons. He did play 18 playoff games this postseason but he can only play only a handful of minutes. Combine him with Nick Richards and the Suns center rotation is still terrible. I'd rather just deal for KAT and perhaps Kolek if Suns are able to nab him.

I'd only want him as an expiring contract that we could buy out and then stretch the remaining money for 3 or 5 yrs to cumulatively create more cap flexibility. Or maybe trade him elsewhere to a team that's desperate for a center option for a late 1st or a couple of 2nds?

[Saberestar]

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If the Knicks are serious about Durant -- OG would need to come to the Suns. Period.

Unless it was something like Bridges, Robinson and Hart

I'd be ok with either Anunoby or Bridges and Robinson. But the Knicks would need to close the value gap with at least the DET 26' ( Top 14 protected) 1st or their own 26' 1st and a couple of 2nds. I honestly don't care about a Kolek inclusion because there will be plenty of quality guard options throughout the draft and free agency.

And honestly, Gillespie is fairly better in a variety of ways. We should look to resign him.

I think they don't have any FRP available for a trade. They only have a Washington protected pick that can be two seconds in a year or something like that.

So they probably would need to trade a player (McBride) to get one FRP to add to the Anunoby + Robinson package.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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If the Knicks are serious about Durant -- OG would need to come to the Suns. Period.

Unless it was something like Bridges, Robinson and Hart

They like OG, they gave up too much for Bridges. The entire team was sick of Kat.... we don't want Kat.IDK!!!

I'd really only trade for KAT to send him elsewhere for other pieces and picks. There'd be a number of teams that'd give good- really good value for him in trade. And then we could make up value from a KD- KAT swap because KAT although not quite on the tier of KD, also isn't 37 yrs old, is on a long term deal, and does put up similar production as
KD on similar efficiency.

First team I'd approach would be Brooklyn as KAT is from New Jersey. And now that Giannis isn't asking out, the Nets are going to want another star centerpiece option. I'd suggest KAT for Johnson/ Claxton/ 19th/ 26th 36th picks. And maybe 1 future lightly protected 1st.

That'd give Brooklyn a young homegrown star big man to build around using their 8th pick and plenty of cap space too. And for us, it'd give us picks in multiple ranges of the draft to take swings on young, athletic cost controlled talent. Having 19th, 26th, 29th, 36th, 52nd picks.

[Ghost of Kleine]

If the Knicks are serious about Durant -- OG would need to come to the Suns. Period.

Unless it was something like Bridges, Robinson and Hart

I'd be ok with either Anunoby or Bridges and Robinson. But the Knicks would need to close the value gap with at least the DET 26' ( Top 14 protected) 1st or their own 26' 1st and a couple of 2nds. I honestly don't care about a Kolek inclusion because there will be plenty of quality guard options throughout the draft and free agency.

And honestly, Gillespie is fairly better in a variety of ways. We should look to resign him.

I think they don't have any FRP available for a trade. They only have a Washington protected pick that can be two seconds in a year or something like that.

So they probably would need to trade a player (McBride) to get one FRP to add to the Anunoby + Robinson package.

They actually have their own 26' 1st round pick and the WAS 26' 1st ( Top 10 protected) because it didn't convey this year ( was top 8). So as long as they keep one of those 26' 1sts, they won't trigger the Stepien rules.

Then they have two available 2nds available in both 2026 and 2028. So we could probably glean an additional 26' 2nd and a 28' 2nd if negotiating from a position of strength.

[TeamTragic]

If the Knicks are serious about Durant -- OG would need to come to the Suns. Period.

Unless it was something like Bridges, Robinson and Hart

They like OG, they gave up too much for Bridges. The entire team was sick of Kat.... we don't want Kat.IDK!!!

I'd really only trade for KAT to send him elsewhere for other pieces and picks. There'd be a number of teams that'd give good- really good value for him in trade. And then we could make up value from a KD- KAT swap because KAT although not quite on the tier of KD, also isn't 37 yrs old, is on a long term deal, and does put up similar production as
KD on similar efficiency.

First team I'd approach would be Brooklyn as KAT is from New Jersey. And now that Giannis isn't asking out, the Nets are going to want another star centerpiece option. I'd suggest KAT for Johnson/ Claxton/ 19th/ 26th 36th picks. And maybe 1 future lightly protected 1st.

That'd give Brooklyn a young homegrown star big man to build around using their 8th pick and plenty of cap space too. And for us, it'd give us picks in multiple ranges of the draft to take swings on young, athletic cost controlled talent. Having 19th, 26th, 29th, 36th, 52nd picks.

What makes you think the Nets want to take on KAT? He is not a star player and they can just keep tanking.

Besides his next contract is going to be a significant overpay especially with the tax apron.

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Isaac is available. We need to look at potential deals to bring him and Bidatze back to our team. Whether something around Allen and Vassell ( from a Spurs trade) or Allen and Richards for Isaac and Bidatze.

Or even if we were to trade KD for KAT, then maybe KAT to Orlando for WCJr/ Isaac/ KCP and a bunch of 1sts??
OR
KAT for Isaac/KCP/ Bidatze/ Harris expiring/ picks??? Heck, I'd even consider KD for Isaac/ Carter Jr/ Bidatze/ Harris expiring/ 16th pick/ 25th pick.

That would give them an immense offensive upgrade for next season, and then help them reduce cap after as KDs' 54 million comes off their books. This would really help them to absorb Bancheros' extension too.

[Saberestar]

I'd be ok with either Anunoby or Bridges and Robinson. But the Knicks would need to close the value gap with at least the DET 26' ( Top 14 protected) 1st or their own 26' 1st and a couple of 2nds. I honestly don't care about a Kolek inclusion because there will be plenty of quality guard options throughout the draft and free agency.

And honestly, Gillespie is fairly better in a variety of ways. We should look to resign him.

I think they don't have any FRP available for a trade. They only have a Washington protected pick that can be two seconds in a year or something like that.

So they probably would need to trade a player (McBride) to get one FRP to add to the Anunoby + Robinson package.

They actually have their own 26' 1st round pick and the WAS 26' 1st ( Top 10 protected) because it didn't convey this year ( was top 8). So as long as they keep one of those 26' 1sts, they won't trigger the Stepien rules.

Then they have two available 2nds available in both 2026 and 2028. So we could probably glean an additional 26' 2nd and a 28' 2nd if negotiating from a position of strength.

They could trade only the Washington (Top 10 protected in 2026) pick because most likely it will convert in two 2nds in 2027.

So they can add those 2nds and another couple of future 2nds. Terrible draft capital.

[TeamTragic]

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Isaac is available. We need to look at potential deals to bring him and Bidatze back to our team. Whether something around Allen and Vassell ( from a Spurs trade) or Allen and Richards for Isaac and Bidatze.

Or even if we were to trade KD for KAT, then maybe KAT to Orlando for WCJr/ Isaac/ KCP and a bunch of 1sts??
OR
KAT for Isaac/KCP/ Bidatze/ Harris expiring/ picks??? Heck, I'd even consider KD for Isaac/ Carter Jr/ Bidatze/ Harris expiring/ 16th pick/ 25th pick.

That would give them an immense offensive upgrade for next season, and then help them reduce cap after as KDs' 54 million comes off their books. This would really help them to absorb Bancheros' extension too.

I would love to get involved and send them KD in a three team trade with the Magic.

If not maybe the Knicks just trade with the Magic directly if they don't get KD?

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Isaac is available. We need to look at potential deals to bring him and Bidatze back to our team. Whether something around Allen and Vassell ( from a Spurs trade) or Allen and Richards for Isaac and Bidatze.

Or even if we were to trade KD for KAT, then maybe KAT to Orlando for WCJr/ Isaac/ KCP and a bunch of 1sts??
OR
KAT for Isaac/KCP/ Bidatze/ Harris expiring/ picks??? Heck, I'd even consider KD for Isaac/ Carter Jr/ Bidatze/ Harris expiring/ 16th pick/ 25th pick.

That would give them an immense offensive upgrade for next season, and then help them reduce cap after as KDs' 54 million comes off their books. This would really help them to absorb Bancheros' extension too.

Maybe the Knicks just trade with the Magic directly if they don't get KD?

Maybe? But would they really want those pieces back for their roster as currently constructed?

[TeamTragic]

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KD will go to whichever team we trade him. Knicks are a better opportunity than the Spurs.

[Ghost of Kleine]

I think they don't have any FRP available for a trade. They only have a Washington protected pick that can be two seconds in a year or something like that.

So they probably would need to trade a player (McBride) to get one FRP to add to the Anunoby + Robinson package.

They actually have their own 26' 1st round pick and the WAS 26' 1st ( Top 10 protected) because it didn't convey this year ( was top 8). So as long as they keep one of those 26' 1sts, they won't trigger the Stepien rules.

Then they have two available 2nds available in both 2026 and 2028. So we could probably glean an additional 26' 2nd and a 28' 2nd if negotiating from a position of strength.

They could trade only the Washington (Top 10 protected in 2026) pick because most likely it will convert in two 2nds in 2027.

So they can add those 2nds and another couple of future 2nds. Terrible draft capital.

Why do you think they could only trade the WAS 26' 1st and not their own? Or are you saying that they'd prefer to trade that WAS 26' 1st as the lesser value asset surrendered?

[Ghost of Kleine]

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Appealing for who exactly???

[Saberestar]

They actually have their own 26' 1st round pick and the WAS 26' 1st ( Top 10 protected) because it didn't convey this year ( was top 8). So as long as they keep one of those 26' 1sts, they won't trigger the Stepien rules.

Then they have two available 2nds available in both 2026 and 2028. So we could probably glean an additional 26' 2nd and a 28' 2nd if negotiating from a position of strength.

They could trade only the Washington (Top 10 protected in 2026) pick because most likely it will convert in two 2nds in 2027.

So they can add those 2nds and another couple of future 2nds. Terrible draft capital.

Why do you think they could only trade the WAS 26' 1st and not their own? Or are you saying that they'd prefer to trade that WAS 26' 1st as the lesser value asset surrendered?

They can't trade their own pick because there is a high chance that the Washington protected pick will become two 2nds. It's not allowed by the Stepien rules.

[Saberestar]

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Appealing for who exactly???

Is this a joke? Appealing lol.

Well, it is just Sidery speculating about the offer. No reporting.

[Fo-Real]

John Collins has to have some record for most consecutive years on the trade block.

About the same as Markkanen. Funny they wound up on the same team.

[Fo-Real]

They like OG, they gave up too much for Bridges. The entire team was sick of Kat.... we don't want Kat.IDK!!!

I'd really only trade for KAT to send him elsewhere for other pieces and picks. There'd be a number of teams that'd give good- really good value for him in trade. And then we could make up value from a KD- KAT swap because KAT although not quite on the tier of KD, also isn't 37 yrs old, is on a long term deal, and does put up similar production as
KD on similar efficiency.

First team I'd approach would be Brooklyn as KAT is from New Jersey. And now that Giannis isn't asking out, the Nets are going to want another star centerpiece option. I'd suggest KAT for Johnson/ Claxton/ 19th/ 26th 36th picks. And maybe 1 future lightly protected 1st.

That'd give Brooklyn a young homegrown star big man to build around using their 8th pick and plenty of cap space too. And for us, it'd give us picks in multiple ranges of the draft to take swings on young, athletic cost controlled talent. Having 19th, 26th, 29th, 36th, 52nd picks.

What makes you think the Nets want to take on KAT? He is not a star player and they can just keep tanking.

Besides his next contract is going to be a significant overpay especially with the tax apron.

Kat had a phenomenal year!! NY loved him until the team defense of the playoffs got real.