Incomplete but almost there idea Beal for Dame

[JonHeist]

Bucks would have to send picks for anyone to take on Dames contract.

That’s wild to even say after everything Portland got for Dame in the first place. Absolutely wild change of tides

tearing an achillies changes things

[Daddy 801]

Bucks would have to send picks for anyone to take on Dames contract.

That’s wild to even say after everything Portland got for Dame in the first place. Absolutely wild change of tides

tearing an achillies changes things

I love Dame, but let’s be honest…he was looking not great even before the injury. His defense is garbage. The Bucks should have never went after him.

[zimpy27]

I think Suns would have to provide an FRP to move Beal even for Lillard. Simply because of the NTC. A team wanting to bring in Beal that Beal would go to has to be worth value. Maybe Dunn instead of FRP.

But people are thinking about this as a 2-team trade when it would likely be a 3-team trade

Bucks get Beal
Suns get 3rd team players
3rd team get Lillard

[JonHeist]

Spoiler:

That’s wild to even say after everything Portland got for Dame in the first place. Absolutely wild change of tides

tearing an achillies changes things

I love Dame, but let’s be honest…he was looking not great even before the injury. His defense is garbage. The Bucks should have never went after him.

25/5/7 on 62% TS as a second option is bad?

okay whatever

[Myth]

Spoiler:

tearing an achillies changes things

I love Dame, but let’s be honest…he was looking not great even before the injury. His defense is garbage. The Bucks should have never went after him.

25/5/7 on 62% TS as a second option is bad?

okay whatever

His defense was terrible, and if he loses a step after injury at his age, he could be one of the worst defenders in the modern era. His offense was obviously good before the injury, but if it is any worse and his defense is worse, even before considering the possibility of re-injury, his contract is currently sitting at a very negative value.

[mg]

If I'm Horst and the Bucks I am dangling the Dame contract + '31 FRP with little/no protections. I would bet several teams such as Utah or Portland would be interested and they have veterans to deal (Ayton, Grant, Simons, Williams, John Collins, Sexton, etc).

Adding a near washed Beal isn't enough. Bucks need at least 2-3 rotation players if they legitimately want to compete to win the EC next season.

[Daddy 801]

Spoiler:

tearing an achillies changes things

I love Dame, but let’s be honest…he was looking not great even before the injury. His defense is garbage. The Bucks should have never went after him.

25/5/7 on 62% TS as a second option is bad?

okay whatever

He was targeted by every team as the easy guy to get buckets on.

[JonHeist]

Spoiler:

[spoiler]


I love Dame, but let’s be honest…he was looking not great even before the injury. His defense is garbage. The Bucks should have never went after him.

25/5/7 on 62% TS as a second option is bad?

okay whatever

He was targeted by every team as the easy guy to get buckets on.

do you think Bradley Beal is a good defender?

[Hook_Em]

Beal is better than Dame going forward and makes a few less mil. Easy no from PHX.

[Mr Puddles]

I think Suns would have to provide an FRP to move Beal even for Lillard. Simply because of the NTC. A team wanting to bring in Beal that Beal would go to has to be worth value. Maybe Dunn instead of FRP.

But people are thinking about this as a 2-team trade when it would likely be a 3-team trade

Bucks get Beal
Suns get 3rd team players
3rd team get Lillard

The Suns are not going to give up a first round pick for the privilege of paying Lillard 54 mil to sit on the bench this year.

Beal is overpaid, but atleast he'll be on the floor. The injury changes everything.

The NTC is almost moot at this point because we're talking about two of the most immovable contracts in the league. Great, the Suns would be able to move Lillard without his consent, just too bad nobody wants him. The Suns are better off just letting Beal expire.

[Daddy 801]

Spoiler:

I love Dame, but let’s be honest…he was looking not great even before the injury. His defense is garbage. The Bucks should have never went after him.

25/5/7 on 62% TS as a second option is bad?

okay whatever

He was targeted by every team as the easy guy to get buckets on.

No, but at least he can play ball right now. Dame is going to be out for a whole season. Why are people surprised his value is in the toilet? He would take at least one unprotected pick to move. Probably more.

[zimpy27]

I think Suns would have to provide an FRP to move Beal even for Lillard. Simply because of the NTC. A team wanting to bring in Beal that Beal would go to has to be worth value. Maybe Dunn instead of FRP.

But people are thinking about this as a 2-team trade when it would likely be a 3-team trade

Bucks get Beal
Suns get 3rd team players
3rd team get Lillard

The Suns are not going to give up a first round pick for the privilege of paying Lillard 54 mil to sit on the bench this year.

Beal is overpaid, but atleast he'll be on the floor. The injury changes everything.

The NTC is almost moot at this point because we're talking about two of the most immovable contracts in the league. Great, the Suns would be able to move Lillard without his consent, just too bad nobody wants him. The Suns are better off just letting Beal expire.

In proposing a 3-team trade, Lillard isn't going to the Subs

[Mr Puddles]

I think Suns would have to provide an FRP to move Beal even for Lillard. Simply because of the NTC. A team wanting to bring in Beal that Beal would go to has to be worth value. Maybe Dunn instead of FRP.

But people are thinking about this as a 2-team trade when it would likely be a 3-team trade

Bucks get Beal
Suns get 3rd team players
3rd team get Lillard

The Suns are not going to give up a first round pick for the privilege of paying Lillard 54 mil to sit on the bench this year.

Beal is overpaid, but atleast he'll be on the floor. The injury changes everything.

The NTC is almost moot at this point because we're talking about two of the most immovable contracts in the league. Great, the Suns would be able to move Lillard without his consent, just too bad nobody wants him. The Suns are better off just letting Beal expire.

In proposing a 3-team trade, Lillard isn't going to the Subs

I mean, I'm responding to the top part of your post - I.e. The Suns needing to include a first rounder for Lillard.

If Lillard is being rerouted to a third team, the return to the Suns will be on part with Lillard's value: dead 56 mil this season followed by 63 mil next season when he might be healthy.

You can't propose that the Suns need to include a pick to move Beal when the return to the Suns is unknown in your three team deal.

[R-DAWG]

The only way this trade makes sense is if it’s paired with a KD trade that brings back control of the Suns 2026 1st. This would allow Pheonix to take a gap year and re-set the roster around Booker.

I guess the hope is that in 26-27 Dame is a better fit next to Booker than Beal, but it doesn’t accomplish much from a salary perspective.

[Kalamazoo317]

I think Beal says no unless he (for some reason) really believes Giannis is going to stay in Milwaukee.

I mean the Bucks making this trade is the signal he is staying. If he leaves they would have zero reason to make a deal like this.

If I'm Giannis, Beal isn't the piece that makes me think we can compete

[Texas Chuck]

I think Beal says no unless he (for some reason) really believes Giannis is going to stay in Milwaukee.

I mean the Bucks making this trade is the signal he is staying. If he leaves they would have zero reason to make a deal like this.

If I'm Giannis, Beal isn't the piece that makes me think we can compete

Me either. Though he's certainly better next year than Dame.

But I wasn't responding saying the Bucks should do this, I was answering why Beal might waive his NTC.

[Warspite]

Bucks would have to send picks for anyone to take on Dames contract.

not if the return is Beal lol (or PG fwiw)

I wouldn’t trade Beal for Dame if I was the Suns without assets coming back. At least Beal can play.

Dames salary is 80% insured. Having that money returned and maybe not paying lux tax on it might be worth it.

[JonHeist]

not if the return is Beal lol (or PG fwiw)

I wouldn’t trade Beal for Dame if I was the Suns without assets coming back. At least Beal can play.

Dames salary is 80% insured. Having that money returned and maybe not paying lux tax on it might be worth it.

???? that only matters if he retires or dies

[Warspite]

I wouldn’t trade Beal for Dame if I was the Suns without assets coming back. At least Beal can play.

Dames salary is 80% insured. Having that money returned and maybe not paying lux tax on it might be worth it.

???? that only matters if he retires or dies

If a player mises a certain number of games due to injury his salary is insured.

[Daddy 801]

not if the return is Beal lol (or PG fwiw)

I wouldn’t trade Beal for Dame if I was the Suns without assets coming back. At least Beal can play.

Dames salary is 80% insured. Having that money returned and maybe not paying lux tax on it might be worth it.

That might make it worth it for the Suns. But they are in the same boat as the Bucks….trying to compete. So just avoiding the tax seems unlikely unless they are truly blowing it up. Which I would if I was them, but that isn’t what they seem to be doing.