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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#741 » by Enzo954 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:08 am

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I don’t know how you fire Thibs and your plan A is to go after coaches that are under contract.

This is where Leon’s mid-ness as an executive comes into play.

He’s always been overrated to me. It’s showing once again. Especially with Dolan in the fray.


Midness? First ECF in 26 years thanks to his maneuvering. Nobody's perfect but Leons done a hell of a job over the last few years.
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Post#742 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:12 am

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I don’t know how you fire Thibs and your plan A is to go after coaches that are under contract.


it might not be there plan A. It could just be part of there entire plan. An extensive search looking at current HC, top assistance coaches, and even college coaches.

We are the only team looking for a HC so there is absolutely no rush go down the list to find out all our potential options.

I mean it could be the case but I find it hard to believe with Leon and WWW being so connected in the league thinking all there top options were reliant on other teams letting us take there coaches.


Yep...this is how they operate with trades... It's the same thing. We have the resources and the reach to conduct a thorough search. They do it with trades and I feel like they're doing it here. I feel like the group is pretty good at not leaving any stone unturned.

This is from one Athletic article:
Aller obsesses over marginal value, which should be refreshing for Knicks fans who remain traumatized from teams of the past needlessly tossing first-round picks into the fireplace. He wants to hold onto picks and acquire others. He notoriously squeezes teams just for the draft rights to an extra player, something that’s far more trivial to most others.

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[the Knicks are] known for haggling over details so minute that, at times, trade partners have relented just to end the conversation and get the deal done. Why do the draft rights to this 27-year-old dude picked 47th seven years ago matter, anyway?


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/3434338/2022/07/19/knicks-jazz-donovan-mitchell/

This is from another Athletic article...the brainstorming line sounds exactly like what's happening with Jason Kidd, where they're exploring stuff but not really committing.
New York’s front office approaches trade discussions in different stages. The Knicks are known for calling other teams and throwing loads of concepts at them, trying to gauge the opposing organization’s priorities and who it may or may not like.

Think of those situations as brainstorming sessions, not negotiations. The Knicks aren’t making hard offers at that time, and they’re not looking for whomever they’re conversing with to say yes or no. Instead, they want to witness what reaction their concepts inspire.

In one phone call, they may mention more than half their roster, and if the details of that discourse were to trickle out, it could sound like the Knicks were making offer after offer to one team. But in reality, sometimes, they are just tossing hypotheticals at other executives to see what sticks.


https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5254675/2024/02/06/knicks-nba-trade-deadline/
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#743 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:13 am

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Plan A was to fire him 8-)

Like we did with Woodson and replaced him with this guy :lol:
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Was Derek fisher still our coach when Matt Barnes drove all the way to beat his ass? :lol:
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#744 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:15 am

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I don’t know how you fire Thibs and your plan A is to go after coaches that are under contract.


it might not be there plan A. It could just be part of there entire plan. An extensive search looking at current HC, top assistance coaches, and even college coaches.

We are the only team looking for a HC so there is absolutely no rush go down the list to find out all our potential options.

I mean it could be the case but I find it hard to believe with Leon and WWW being so connected in the league thinking all there top options were reliant on other teams letting us take there coaches.

It was definitely our plan A

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Post#745 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:23 am

Knicks are gonna end up with Malone. Get ready.
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#746 » by NiceLikeChrist » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:28 am

Why are they so scared of hiring a rookie coach? Are our locker room diva issues understated and they don’t feel confident in a rookie managing egos?

I don’t understand the thought process behind going after coaches who have already proven they’re no better than the guy we just fired.

Get a coach that is eager to prove himself and has some fresh ideas and knows the modern game. Honestly we had it so perfect if we just fired thibs earlier and hired redick last offseason. The man already lives in Brooklyn he would’ve taken the job for sure.
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Post#747 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:29 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Like we did with Woodson and replaced him with this guy :lol:
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Bring Derek home, hide your wives. Nothing will inspire the players drive to win more than dirty Mack Derek plotting on their women for poor performance.

"Hey Josh, you gotta shoot those threes man, maybe I can come over for dinner later and discuss it with you and your wife"


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Was Derek fisher still our coach when Matt Barnes drove all the way to beat his ass? :lol:




He was, look at how much that motivated Matt, and he wasn't even playing for us. Bring Dirty Derek home, he'll have these dudes playing hard. You think KAT wants him anywhere near Jordyn?
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Post#748 » by Gravy » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:32 am

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Post#749 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:34 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
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Bring Derek home, hide your wives. Nothing will inspire the players drive to win more than dirty Mack Derek plotting on their women for poor performance.

"Hey Josh, you gotta shoot those threes man, maybe I can come over for dinner later and discuss it with you and your wife"


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Was Derek fisher still our coach when Matt Barnes drove all the way to beat his ass? :lol:




He was, look at how much that motivated Matt, and he wasn't even playing for us. Bring Dirty Derek home, he'll have these dudes playing hard. You think KAT wants him anywhere near Jordyn?

Derek fisher gonna have KAT look like this :lol:
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Post#750 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:38 am

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Marc stein said the Knicks only want a veteran coach which rules out Bryant. I don’t know why people think we’re getting him. I would bet we’ll end up with Malone.
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Post#751 » by offense » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:41 am

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Marc stein said the Knicks only want a veteran coach which rules out Bryant. I don’t know why people think we’re getting him. I would bet we’ll end up with Malone.

we need malone, trust me 8-)
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Post#752 » by nykfan42 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:42 am

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I don’t know how you fire Thibs and your plan A is to go after coaches that are under contract.

That's exactly what I'm saying. What is their plan? It's frustrating enough that no one in this FO talks at all.
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Post#753 » by Spot31 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:46 am

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Marc stein said the Knicks only want a veteran coach which rules out Bryant. I don’t know why people think we’re getting him. I would bet we’ll end up with Malone.


Because they think Bryant is going to play Hukporti and Kolek 30 plus minutes a night and they'll develop into all stars. Just like when people believed Frank Ntilikina was the second coming of Walt Frazier.
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Post#754 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:54 am

Marc stein knew what he was talking about. Never doubted him.
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#755 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:56 am

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Marc stein said the Knicks only want a veteran coach which rules out Bryant. I don’t know why people think we’re getting him. I would bet we’ll end up with Malone.


Because they think Bryant is going to play Hukporti and Kolek 30 plus minutes a night and they'll develop into all stars. Just like when people believed Frank Ntilikina was the second coming of Walt Frazier.


Not sure that anyone's ever said this...which makes me wonder why you have to resort to such a pitiful straw man to win an argument.

Could it be that you actually know your arguments are weak?
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Post#756 » by seren » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:58 am

I will continue insisting firing Thibs was Dolan’s idea
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Post#757 » by kNicksGmen » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:01 am

Doesn't seem like his name has come up at all but I would be happy with Taylor Jenkins.
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Post#758 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:02 am

seren wrote:I will continue insisting firing Thibs was Dolan’s idea

Yep. Dolan apparently never liked him. He fired Thibs prematurely with no replacement lined up. I can’t believe that our main plan is trying to steal other team’s head coaches. To me that shows this was all done prematurely.
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Post#759 » by sol537 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:04 am

seren wrote:I will continue insisting firing Thibs was Dolan’s idea


Then Dolan is a genius because Thibs wasn’t it.
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#760 » by Jay10 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:08 am

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seren wrote:I will continue insisting firing Thibs was Dolan’s idea

Yep. Dolan apparently never liked him. He fired Thibs prematurely with no replacement lined up. I can’t believe that our main plan is trying to steal other team’s head coaches. To me that shows this was all done prematurely.


Prematurely? WWW wanted Thibodeau out of here since he refused to take RJ out of a blowout game that caused RJ to get injured. He also wanted him out of here during an all-star break, but Rose declined to fire Thibodeau.

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