pepe1991 wrote:eyriq wrote:Magic_Johnny12 wrote:
It quite literally does. I’m at the beach and can’t pull it up right now, but Orlando is in desperate need of playmaking.
There’s this fallacy around these parts that because Paolo and Franz are decent playmakers for their position that Orlando doesn’t need any more playmaking which contradicts a lot of the advanced numbers.
This is my gripe with Simon’s, heck of a shot creator but when his shot isn’t falling he is unplayable.
It’s not a coincidence players shoot their worst the second they put on a Magic jersey.
This doesn’t mean we need Haliburton to be successful, but saying we don’t need playmaking is crazy talk.
We shot worse on wide-open threes than the league average on all threes. The offense generated good looks—we just couldn’t convert. Until that’s fixed, parsing playmaking is putting the cart before the horse. Shooting isn’t optional. If you’ve looked at the data and come to a different conclusion, you’re doing it wrong.
Eh.
Look at most shots taken with 0-4 sec on the clock in nba.
Franz Wagner -4th in entire nba with most shots taken with expiring clock
Banchero - 7th in entire nba with most shots taken with exp.clock
Jalen Suggs - 30# in entire nba in same category
Matter of fact only between 3 of them , Magic get 5,9 FGA a game. They combine for 28% FG in such situations.
*Probably* lost of those shots are "open" but near impossible to actually make because offense created nothing during normal part of shot clock.
Staying in same "Impossible shots due pressure of shot clock" Magic had 3 players within top 15 most 3 FGA taken.
Again Franz, Suggs and Banchero.
Franz 1,1 attempt a game 19,7% accuracy
Banchero 1,0 attempt a game, 27% accuracy
Suggs 0,9 attempts a game , 15% accuracy
When some Isaac shoots "wide open" in corner, because whole defense ignores him, it also counts as " wide open shot generated" despite fact defense does it on purpose.
This is from regular season 2024-25.
Suggs played 35 games, shot bricks, we can even ignore him.
But you don't generate "wide open" looks for good shooters. KCP, on paper good shooter is just 4th in most 3FGA, after that you have Cole at just 8th as second serious shooter ( not even great one, rather mediocre one, but better than people above him), after that you have Houstan and C. Joseph all the way down.
This list should be upside down with few exceptions.
Instaed we "generate" shots for terrible shooters because teams ignore them and they feel pressure to take shot because if they don't, they just dribble ball in traffic and create even bigger mess from possession.
Now compare it with Pacers
They generate open looks to actually good shooters. Elite shooters get more shots, bad shooters get less.
This is difference between excellent offense and offense where nothing has any order nor players know what their set plays should be nor where their shots should come from.
There is no reason for Carter to average 2 FGA game from "wide open 3s" in season where guy shoots 23% for 3. There is no reason why Franz averages 6 -3FGA a game in season where he shoots 29% for 3.
Once again, problem with shooting starts with Banchero and Franz and their volumen of shots. You can have Petrović, Allen and Klay Thompson next to them, as long as they shoot 60% of team shots and have poor shooting numbers, shooting will continue to be issue.
