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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1021 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:50 pm

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Leon Rose would quit if Dolan stepped in. He doesn't need this job.


There are 30 million reasons as to why Dolan didn't do this on a whim.


Those are also the same reasons why he would sit in on the meetings.

If the players and FO are asking him to eat $30M to fire the most successful coach he's had in 25 years, he wants to be able to ask a question or two.

The team captain Brunson wanted Thibs to stay.
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Post#1023 » by GONYK » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:52 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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There are 30 million reasons as to why Dolan didn't do this on a whim.


Those are also the same reasons why he would sit in on the meetings.

If the players and FO are asking him to eat $30M to fire the most successful coach he's had in 25 years, he wants to be able to ask a question or two.

The team captain Brunson wanted Thibs to stay.


Brunson isn't the one paying Thibs and is already under contract :lol:
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Post#1024 » by Capn'O » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:54 pm

Doesn't Steve Clifford have Knicks ties?
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Post#1025 » by Bob Ross » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:54 pm

My uneducated take is this

The talking heads in national media are falling all over themselves about the potential for lolknicks again. Local beat guys seem to get it. Many here were screaming for Thibs' head during the reg season and playoffs. I think many are looking back through rose colored glasses. Thibs is who he is and his weaknesses largely cost us a chance at the chip. Our offense was predictable and easily countered and our defense was erratic.

For the denials on interviews, a closed mouth doesn't get fed. There's no harm in asking. Maybe you get surprised and find out that another coach would be interested.

The idea that they don't have a plan is nonsense. Leon doesn't advertise his plans for the world to analyze. OG, Mikal and KAT trades dropped out of nowhere.

We all knew Thibs didn't have what it takes to get us the gold and that's OK. No sense prolonging the inevitable. It's the off-season, there's no immediate rush to make a hire.

I am as reactive as the next fanatic, but let's get a grip here. I trust Leon to make the right move more than I trust Thibs to change his stripes and play the bench, develop a world beater offense and become a top level in game adjuster
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Post#1026 » by aq_ua » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:55 pm

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god shammgod wrote:Billups has Knicks ties. Who else ?

Portland gonna turn us down too :lol:

they signed billups to an extension this offseason.

In any case, given our history, do we really want someone with Knick ties outside of the immediate
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Post#1027 » by FrozenEnvelope » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:56 pm

Bob Ross wrote:My uneducated take is this

The talking heads in national media are falling all over themselves about the potential for lolknicks again. Local beat guys seem to get it. Many here were screaming for Thibs' head during the reg season and playoffs. I think many are looking back through rose colored glasses. Thibs is who he is and his weaknesses largely cost us a chance at the chip. Our offense was predictable and easily countered and our defense was erratic.

For the denials on interviews, a closed mouth doesn't get fed. There's no harm in asking. Maybe you get surprised and find out that another coach would be interested.

The idea that they don't have a plan is nonsense. Leon doesn't advertise his plans for the world to analyze. OG, Mikal and KAT trades dropped out of nowhere.

We all knew Thibs didn't have what it takes to get us the gold and that's OK. No sense prolonging the inevitable. It's the off-season, there's no immediate rush to make a hire.

I am as reactive as the next fanatic, but let's get a grip here. I trust Leon to make the right move more than I trust Thibs to change his stripes and play the bench, develop a world beater offense and become a top level in game adjuster


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Post#1028 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:57 pm

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Those are also the same reasons why he would sit in on the meetings.

If the players and FO are asking him to eat $30M to fire the most successful coach he's had in 25 years, he wants to be able to ask a question or two.

The team captain Brunson wanted Thibs to stay.


Brunson isn't the one paying Thibs and is already under contract :lol:

I mean you just said players are asking Dolan to fire Thibs. But yet the most important player on the roster wanted him here. It’s clear as day Dolan just stepped in. There’s reports that he never liked Thibs in the first place.
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Post#1030 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:01 pm

Jay10 wrote:I think Johnnie Bryant is going to be the next head coach.

Just to kill time until the Finals end the Knicks intentionally asked to interview head coaches they knew were never going to be released by their current organizations. Now every name we hear we believe is for the open Knicks head coach position, when it's instead for associate and assistant positions for Johnnie Bryant's staff. :lol:


Speak it into existence!!!

Johnnie is the guy. Leon is priming the pump for the announcement


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Post#1031 » by Jay10 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:01 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:They clearly weren’t planning to fire him. Dolan stepped in. Now the Knicks are scrambling to find a replacement. It’s a sht show.


Leon Rose would quit if Dolan stepped in. He doesn't need this job.


There are 30 million reasons as to why Dolan didn't do this on a whim.


I personally think the front office saw enough from Thibodeau these past few seasons to come to the realization that it was time to move on.

Reporters and media outlets were always going to take the angle of Leon wanted Thibodeau to stay, but it was Dolan that said it was time for Thibodeau to go. When in actuality I think the events happened close to something like this:

- WWW and/or Leon go to Dolan to tell him they want to replace Thibodeau with another head coach

- Dolan probably says,"I just gave the guy a 3 year extension last offseason. I'm going to need more than that."

- Dolan then decides to go to the exit meetings to see if what WWW and/or Leon said aligns with what the players are saying about Thibodeau

- Players and front office align with their statements about Thibodeau

- Thibodeau is fired
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Post#1033 » by HerSports85 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:02 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:The team captain Brunson wanted Thibs to stay.


Brunson isn't the one paying Thibs and is already under contract :lol:

I mean you just said players are asking Dolan to fire Thibs. But yet the most important player on the roster wanted him here. It’s clear as day Dolan just stepped in. There’s reports that he never liked Thibs in the first place.


Jay Will also reported that it was tension between Leon and Thibs during the playoffs. Said he seen it unfold while he was on the sideline. So who knows.


Wes is also not a fan of Thibs. So I’m thinking which ever players felt the way they did was icing on the cake.
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Post#1034 » by GONYK » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:03 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:The team captain Brunson wanted Thibs to stay.


Brunson isn't the one paying Thibs and is already under contract :lol:

I mean you just said players are asking Dolan to fire Thibs. But yet the most important player on the roster wanted him here. It’s clear as day Dolan just stepped in. There’s reports that he never liked Thibs in the first place.


The reports say 7 players wanted Thibs gone. Thats basically the entire playable roster outside of Jalen and Hart.

So I don't know how that leads to the conclusion that Dolan overrode his FO and forced a firing of a man who just made him tons of money and restored the goodwill and reputation of the franchise.
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Post#1035 » by spree8 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:03 pm

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spree8 wrote:We’re gunna see so many names because it’s part of the process. The FO also uses interviews to gather intel/ideas/knowledge for the team… always good to get other perspectives.


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Yea I mean it makes sense when you think about it. Look at the regular world and job interviews… reminds me of a time one of my boys told me he went in for an interview and the owner was just blatantly extracting as much knowledge and ideas for his business with no intention of hiring him. He’s like this dude was basically trying to steal my lyrics and beats for his album.
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Post#1036 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:04 pm

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Brunson isn't the one paying Thibs and is already under contract :lol:

I mean you just said players are asking Dolan to fire Thibs. But yet the most important player on the roster wanted him here. It’s clear as day Dolan just stepped in. There’s reports that he never liked Thibs in the first place.


Jay Will also reported that it was tension between Leon and Thibs during the playoffs. Said he seen it unfold while he was on the sideline. So who knows.


Wes is also not a fan of Thibs. So I’m thinking which ever players felt the way they did was icing on the cake.

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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1037 » by MrDollarBills » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:05 pm

GONYK wrote:
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Those are also the same reasons why he would sit in on the meetings.

If the players and FO are asking him to eat $30M to fire the most successful coach he's had in 25 years, he wants to be able to ask a question or two.

The team captain Brunson wanted Thibs to stay.


Brunson isn't the one paying Thibs and is already under contract :lol:


I've seen nothing that has been credibly reported that indicates that this was some wild, unilateral decision, and that this was a collective decision made by ownership, the front office with feedback from the players.

Unless there is evidence otherwise I think the idea that Dolan just barged in and flushed 30m of his money down the toilet because he didn't like Tom is completely false.
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Post#1038 » by god shammgod » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:06 pm

Motherf*ckers in here writing fan fiction about us hiring a guy everyone with sources say we have no interest in
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Post#1039 » by G_K_F » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:07 pm

Bob Ross wrote:My uneducated take is this

The talking heads in national media are falling all over themselves about the potential for lolknicks again. Local beat guys seem to get it. Many here were screaming for Thibs' head during the reg season and playoffs. I think many are looking back through rose colored glasses. Thibs is who he is and his weaknesses largely cost us a chance at the chip. Our offense was predictable and easily countered and our defense was erratic.

For the denials on interviews, a closed mouth doesn't get fed. There's no harm in asking. Maybe you get surprised and find out that another coach would be interested.

The idea that they don't have a plan is nonsense. Leon doesn't advertise his plans for the world to analyze. OG, Mikal and KAT trades dropped out of nowhere.

We all knew Thibs didn't have what it takes to get us the gold and that's OK. No sense prolonging the inevitable. It's the off-season, there's no immediate rush to make a hire.

I am as reactive as the next fanatic, but let's get a grip here. I trust Leon to make the right move more than I trust Thibs to change his stripes and play the bench, develop a world beater offense and become a top level in game adjuster

We were linked to OG, Bridges and Towns long before those trades were made.
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Post#1040 » by Capn'O » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:08 pm

Jay10 wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Fury wrote:
Leon Rose would quit if Dolan stepped in. He doesn't need this job.


There are 30 million reasons as to why Dolan didn't do this on a whim.


I personally think the front office saw enough from Thibodeau these past few seasons to come to the realization that it was time to move on.

Reporters and media outlets were always going to take the angle of Leon wanted Thibodeau to stay, but it was Dolan that said it was time for Thibodeau to go. When in actuality I think the events happened close to something like this:

- WWW and/or Leon go to Dolan to tell him they want to replace Thibodeau with another head coach

- Dolan probably says,"I just gave the guy a 3 year extension last offseason. I'm going to need more than that."

- Dolan then decides to go to the exit meetings to see if what WWW and/or Leon said aligns with what the players are saying about Thibodeau

- Players and front office align with their statements about Thibodeau

- Thibodeau is fired


That's exactly what I see. WWW has been beating this drum for awhile too and his beat may have gotten too loud to ignore. Leon may have even wanted to take himself out of the equation because of his personal connection to Thibs.
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