Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread

[Iron Mantis]

Now wanting to "speak to" coaches for an interview is no longer an interview but instead a Meetup strictly to immediately sign a contract...

My goodness. Letting go of Thibs has his fans really losing their minds.

Breathe...life goes on. Next coach will be better.

[spree8]

so if the mavs agreed to let them talk to kidd they were gonna say....."sike. just gathering information fellas. we don't want him."

an interview would be gathering intel... doesn't mean you're comitting anything to hiring the guy.

you can't just interview someone else's coach. he's going to go back to the mavs after agreeing to talk to us and it's all gonna be ok ?

Why not? These are professionals

[spree8]

Now wanting to "speak to" coaches for an interview is no longer an interview but instead a Meetup strictly to immediately sign a contract...

My goodness. Letting go of Thibs has his fans really losing their minds.

Breathe...life goes on. Next coach will be better.

Bro this crash out is bad

[god shammgod]

Well well well… logic and rationale for the win

so if the mavs agreed to let them talk to kidd they were gonna say....."sike. just gathering information fellas. we don't want him."

They asked for permission to speak with Udoka, Finch and Kidd all within a short window. What if they all said yes or let us think about it and then allowed it, and now Leon has 3 candidates he’s allowed to interview... would your answer be the same? No because it’s crazy lol… he’d do what he’s supposed to do… conduct an interview.

if they're willing to be interviewed, it means they're willing to leave and they're not really invested in the job they have now. why would you want that guy back after ?

[Guano]

"A coaching change is not a bed of roses. A coaching change is a struggle between the future and the past," and "History will absolve me." - Miguel Castbridge





"If the players were in possession of his own means of minutes, and was satisfied to live as a role player, he need not work beyond the time necessary for the reproduction of his minutes of subsistence, say 35 minutes per game." - Mikarl Marx

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"Liberté, égalité, fraternité"

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Well well well… logic and rationale for the win

so if the mavs agreed to let them talk to kidd they were gonna say....."sike. just gathering information fellas. we don't want him."

you can ask "officially" even though you know what the answer will be...

[spree8]

so if the mavs agreed to let them talk to kidd they were gonna say....."sike. just gathering information fellas. we don't want him."

They asked for permission to speak with Udoka, Finch and Kidd all within a short window. What if they all said yes or let us think about it and then allowed it, and now Leon has 3 candidates he’s allowed to interview... would your answer be the same? No because it’s crazy lol… he’d do what he’s supposed to do… conduct an interview.

if they're willing to be interviewed, it means they're willing to leave and they're not really invested in the job they have now. why would you want that guy back after ?

Not everyone is that emotionally reactive. Organizations allow their coaches to be interviewed a lot. What if the other organization doesn’t hire them? You don’t think the original team is prepared for that? It’s business, not personal.

[Fury]

so if the mavs agreed to let them talk to kidd they were gonna say....."sike. just gathering information fellas. we don't want him."

They asked for permission to speak with Udoka, Finch and Kidd all within a short window. What if they all said yes or let us think about it and then allowed it, and now Leon has 3 candidates he’s allowed to interview... would your answer be the same? No because it’s crazy lol… he’d do what he’s supposed to do… conduct an interview.

if they're willing to be interviewed, it means they're willing to leave and they're not really invested in the job they have now. why would you want that guy back after ?

So why ask 3 coaches? Were they planning to hire all of them?

[Enzo954]

Well well well… logic and rationale for the win

??? Earlier today you were saying how incompetent Leon is. Now it's all logic and rationale. I don't get this place sometimes man.

Dude you seem very irrational and lost. Do you understand context? My criticism of Leon was for a 2020 coaching hire, not now. Like where is your head at???

I'm just sayin you said you had a whole list of everything Leon has done wrong and now you're sayin how he's being rationale and uses logic. Just a pick a side and stick with it, that's all. I just don't get it.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Now wanting to "speak to" coaches for an interview is no longer an interview but instead a Meetup strictly to immediately sign a contract...

My goodness. Letting go of Thibs has his fans really losing their minds.

Breathe...life goes on. Next coach will be better.

You would think we're never going to hire a coach and will have Dolan coaching. The scare tactics, and trying to frame everything as though the sky is falling is hilarious.

It's been 8 days, it's all over, just move the Knicks to Seattle

[NoDopeOnSundays]

It's perfect!

Why does the 18th century smugness & drip fit your posting style.

[god shammgod]

They asked for permission to speak with Udoka, Finch and Kidd all within a short window. What if they all said yes or let us think about it and then allowed it, and now Leon has 3 candidates he’s allowed to interview... would your answer be the same? No because it’s crazy lol… he’d do what he’s supposed to do… conduct an interview.

if they're willing to be interviewed, it means they're willing to leave and they're not really invested in the job they have now. why would you want that guy back after ?

Not everyone is that emotionally reactive. Organizations allow their coaches to be interviewed a lot. What if the other organization doesn’t hire them? You don’t think the original team is prepared for that? It’s business, not personal.

no they don't. they let assistant coaches interview for better jobs. they don't let a competitor talk to their guy unless they don't really want him anymore.

[god shammgod]

They asked for permission to speak with Udoka, Finch and Kidd all within a short window. What if they all said yes or let us think about it and then allowed it, and now Leon has 3 candidates he’s allowed to interview... would your answer be the same? No because it’s crazy lol… he’d do what he’s supposed to do… conduct an interview.

if they're willing to be interviewed, it means they're willing to leave and they're not really invested in the job they have now. why would you want that guy back after ?

So why ask 3 coaches? Were they planning to hire all of them?

because they were willing to hire any of them and probably assumed they would get more than one no

[god shammgod]

find me one time in history where a team "interviewed" a head coach that was under contract with another team and he didn't get hired and returned to the original team. and don't come back to this thread until you find it. see you never lol

[Jeff Van Gully]

They’ve confirmed Kidd was at the top of our list. And the only moves we’ve made was contacting other teams coaches. It’s pretty clear our plan A is to steal a coach from another team.

so, no.

because, same question. how do you know the bold?

They’ve said who’s our main targets are, which is who we’ve tried to go after. I’m not sure why you think otherwise?

i didn't say i do. i'm not in here fighting for a position. you are the one speaking definitively like you have the whole story when none of us do.

there could be way more going on/planning/strategy that KFTV and KFS don't know about. assuming you've got it right now all just seems rash.

[spree8]

??? Earlier today you were saying how incompetent Leon is. Now it's all logic and rationale. I don't get this place sometimes man.

Dude you seem very irrational and lost. Do you understand context? My criticism of Leon was for a 2020 coaching hire, not now. Like where is your head at???

I'm just sayin you said you had a whole list of everything Leon has done wrong and now you're sayin how he's being rationale and uses logic. Just a pick a side and stick with it, that's all. I just don't get it.

You’re crashing out on a whole other level right now over god knows what. Lemme spell this out for you so you can shut up already and get off my jock…

1: Someone posted new info about Udoka being interviewed in 2020

2: I reacted to how that should be at the top of Leon’s criticisms

3: You pop up talking crazy about how Leon is above reproach and we should all be grateful and kiss the ground Leon walks on

4: I respond saying that everyone knows he’s made a lot of mistakes, we’ve all listed them in his Grade Thread, but hopefully he’s learned his lesson about nepotism when it comes to coaching/trades/signings.

5: News breaks confirming what most here including me have been saying all week… Leon is doing his due diligence.

6: You come back in with the same wild bs “you criticized Leon for bad moves!” “pick a side!” “Is he perfect or does he suck!??”


You obviously got an issue with people criticizing Leon for anything… if you’re that sensitive, a Knicks message board probably isn’t for you? Words of wisdom…not everything is binary, and nobody is perfect. Chill out

[spree8]

if they're willing to be interviewed, it means they're willing to leave and they're not really invested in the job they have now. why would you want that guy back after ?

Not everyone is that emotionally reactive. Organizations allow their coaches to be interviewed a lot. What if the other organization doesn’t hire them? You don’t think the original team is prepared for that? It’s business, not personal.

no they don't. they let assistant coaches interview for better jobs. they don't let a competitor talk to their guy unless they don't really want him anymore.

The Celtics denied the Clippers the ability to interview Doc Rivers initially, and then allowed it despite wanting to keep him

[god shammgod]

Not everyone is that emotionally reactive. Organizations allow their coaches to be interviewed a lot. What if the other organization doesn’t hire them? You don’t think the original team is prepared for that? It’s business, not personal.

no they don't. they let assistant coaches interview for better jobs. they don't let a competitor talk to their guy unless they don't really want him anymore.

The Celtics denied the Clippers the ability to interview Doc Rivers initially, and then allowed it despite wanting to keep him

and he left. he didn't come back after the interview. you don't get to come back after. it's never happened.

[spree8]

no they don't. they let assistant coaches interview for better jobs. they don't let a competitor talk to their guy unless they don't really want him anymore.

The Celtics denied the Clippers the ability to interview Doc Rivers initially, and then allowed it despite wanting to keep him

and he left. he didn't come back after the interview. you don't get to come back after. it's never happened.

How do you know that tho? Apparently it happens far more often than we know according to guys like Windy who said as much this week. We just don’t hear about it.

[Capn'O]

Kidd pretty clearly went to the Mavs with demands. High profile assistants and a new contract. He'd probably be hired if they weren't met but they were. They already interviewed him in 2020 and it sounds like he was number 2 or 3 on the list (Udoka). We didn't need to interview those guys. In the end, we were used as a negotiating tool but Kidd news probably made it bigger than the other two because there was a chance to get him.

Personally, I don't have any regrets on Kidd. He's improved as a coach but he's still a snake.

On to the free agent list. It'll take awhile not because we have no idea who we're going to interview from that pool but because we haven't yet done due diligence there. Frankly, I think there are a couple of better options there.