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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#181 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:24 pm

right... Even though I have listed a says the 4th in this little group of players I think we're considering. I'd still be pretty happy with having him as a player. Whoever we draft is going to be light years better than tiddy, nsj, bouk and kai
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#182 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:42 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
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Liver_Pooty wrote:Sixers are all but going to take VJ per wiretap. Called this crap a month ago. Now watch him become a stud.

Good for us Ace is better.

This will be Scoot vs Miller all over again.


How would it be Scoot vs Miller? I think a majority of people are perfectly fine with Ace if VJ is off the board. I’m actually fine with 3 or 4 other people.

I'm fine with VJ as well, but I think Ace is going to be better.

I thought the feeling around the board that VJ was the most popular pick for us?
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#183 » by JustBuzzin » Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:43 pm

fatlever wrote:Whoever we draft is going to be light years better than tiddy, nsj, bouk and kai

We can all agree on this!
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#184 » by fatlever » Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:56 pm

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vj Already worked out for the Sixers and Tyrese Maxey was there for dinner

Another comment on the Sixers board had mentioned that someone associated with the Bahamas team said that V J was only planning to work out for the Sixers. Not sure I'm buying that Especially not Without a real legit source.
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#185 » by LofJ » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:01 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Sixers are all but going to take VJ per wiretap. Called this crap a month ago. Now watch him become a stud.


Happens so often at this point if feels like a voodoo curse.
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#186 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed Jun 11, 2025 10:54 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
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JustBuzzin wrote:Good for us Ace is better.

This will be Scoot vs Miller all over again.


How would it be Scoot vs Miller? I think a majority of people are perfectly fine with Ace if VJ is off the board. I’m actually fine with 3 or 4 other people.

I'm fine with VJ as well, but I think Ace is going to be better.

I thought the feeling around the board that VJ was the most popular pick for us?


He probably is but drafting Ace or even Kon in my eyes would hardly be devastating to me. Maluach is a different story.
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#187 » by Diop » Thu Jun 12, 2025 2:37 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Good for us Ace is better.

This will be Scoot vs Miller all over again.


How would it be Scoot vs Miller? I think a majority of people are perfectly fine with Ace if VJ is off the board. I’m actually fine with 3 or 4 other people.

I'm fine with VJ as well, but I think Ace is going to be better.

I thought the feeling around the board that VJ was the most popular pick for us?

you're probably right on him being the "popular" pick, but i have him half a hair ahead of Ace and would not be upset at all if we took either.
so yeah, a few of us might have him as our first choice, but not as a "we must take him or I will cry" type of pick. its more of a if I HAVE to rank them, he's probably my leader.
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#188 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:02 pm

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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#189 » by Chapelchilla » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:31 pm

fatlever wrote:https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/outsiders-edge-projecting-vj-edgecombes

super deep dive


Maybe he falls to us after all. Seems like a fair look and it made him out to be more limited than I expected. Hmm.
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#190 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:53 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:
fatlever wrote:https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/outsiders-edge-projecting-vj-edgecombes

super deep dive


Maybe he falls to us after all. Seems like a fair look and it made him out to be more limited than I expected. Hmm.


Feels like this is a common theme, but a few of us have been saying offensively he is overrated for some time.
Still like him and would much rather have him at 4 then some of the names getting floated.
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#191 » by Bassman » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:46 pm

fatlever wrote:https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/outsiders-edge-projecting-vj-edgecombes

super deep dive


Great work up on VJ. Then it hit me after all the analysis I’ve been reading about VJ; he really reminds me of a former Hornet. I looked up his college stats, pictured his strengths and weaknesses, and now I ask all of you….is VJ’s comp Kendall Gill? Very similar in size, both good athletes, good defensive players who could shoot but also struggled a bit with their handle, turnovers and consistency with the 3. Gill certainly was an impactful player, and hit his peak performance during his second season as a Hornet, averaging 20 PPG, but it went down from there until he was traded. Gill wasn’t a very effective 3pt shooter, and his only league honor was being named to the all rookie team.

Having said that, many are comping VJ to Oladipo. That would be a wonderful result.
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#192 » by fatlever » Fri Jun 13, 2025 6:07 pm

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fatlever wrote:https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/outsiders-edge-projecting-vj-edgecombes

super deep dive


Great work up on VJ. Then it hit me after all the analysis I’ve been reading about VJ; he really reminds me of a former Hornet. I looked up his college stats, pictured his strengths and weaknesses, and now I ask all of you….is VJ’s comp Kendall Gill? Very similar in size, both good athletes, good defensive players who could shoot but also struggled a bit with their handle, turnovers and consistency with the 3. Gill certainly was an impactful player, and hit his peak performance during his second season as a Hornet, averaging 20 PPG, but it went down from there until he was traded. Gill wasn’t a very effective 3pt shooter, and his only league honor was being named to the all rookie team.

Having said that, many are comping VJ to Oladipo. That would be a wonderful result.


interesting... such different eras. surely gill would be a better 3pt shooter now if the expectation from the time you were 15 was to shoot 3s.
i remember gill having some on ball juice that allowed him to play defacto pg at times, something vj has mentioned, and brought up by jon g. one difference tho... in bonnell's book about 1993 season, he talked about gill being a diva and upset he was 3rd fiddle behind lj and zo, which is why they traded him to sonics for hawkins. i think i remember gill saying later regretted how he acted that year. such a shame that 93 team fell apart too soon. damn you lj back injury
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#193 » by Diop » Sat Jun 14, 2025 4:41 am

fatlever wrote:
Bassman wrote:
fatlever wrote:https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/outsiders-edge-projecting-vj-edgecombes

super deep dive


Great work up on VJ. Then it hit me after all the analysis I’ve been reading about VJ; he really reminds me of a former Hornet. I looked up his college stats, pictured his strengths and weaknesses, and now I ask all of you….is VJ’s comp Kendall Gill? Very similar in size, both good athletes, good defensive players who could shoot but also struggled a bit with their handle, turnovers and consistency with the 3. Gill certainly was an impactful player, and hit his peak performance during his second season as a Hornet, averaging 20 PPG, but it went down from there until he was traded. Gill wasn’t a very effective 3pt shooter, and his only league honor was being named to the all rookie team.

Having said that, many are comping VJ to Oladipo. That would be a wonderful result.


interesting... such different eras. surely gill would be a better 3pt shooter now if the expectation from the time you were 15 was to shoot 3s.
i remember gill having some on ball juice that allowed him to play defacto pg at times, something vj has mentioned, and brought up by jon g. one difference tho... in bonnell's book about 1993 season, he talked about gill being a diva and upset he was 3rd fiddle behind lj and zo, which is why they traded him to sonics for hawkins. i think i remember gill saying later regretted how he acted that year. such a shame that 93 team fell apart too soon. damn you lj back injury

not to pile on Gill, i liked him as a player, but I remember a Nets player commenting on Gill being a bit of a diva type as well. commenting how they got better after he left.

Gill without the diva would be so valuable right now. the physical, athletic defender who isn't a zero on offense is so vital in the playoffs.

also that story of ego killing a team reminds me of the GSW Nelson team. They were my first team to barrack for as I loved Mullin.
Mullin, Webber and Sprewell seem like such a perfect mix offensively, then you could have added Tim Hardaway if it didn't all blow up. How exciting could that team have been. they even added Seikaly so Webber didn't have to play centre which he hated. then it all turned to crap.

typical of me to barrack for that version of GSW and but become a Charlotte fan before the Curry championship days. :sigh:
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#194 » by wilson115 » Fri Jun 20, 2025 9:21 pm

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Post#195 » by JustBuzzin » Sat Jun 21, 2025 12:18 am

I was down on VJ, but he's one of the better defensive players at the top so I have come around to being ok if we drafted him.

Right now I'm Ace/VJ/Fears or trade back.
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Post#196 » by KingCat » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:36 pm

Apparently he looked nervous during the Sixers workout and missed a bunch of shots. Bros not helping me get over my MKG II concerns :cry:

Starting to think Sixers are taking Tre or trading the pick for number 3 to take Ace.
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Post#197 » by KembaWalker » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:47 pm

Probably why Ace canceled his workout, teams are just playing games with these reporters. Appeared nervous? lol
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Post#198 » by Bassman » Mon Jun 23, 2025 5:52 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Probably why Ace canceled his workout, teams are just playing games with these reporters. Appeared nervous? lol


Per the report his workout was a “one on one” workout, I read as maybe unexpected?


While sources say Edgecombe appeared nervous during his private workout in Philadelphia and did not shoot the ball particularly well in an unnatural one-on-one setting, he made a strong impression in interviews and meetings, something the front office values more highly.


I’m convinced the Sixers are picking VJ unless they get a super trade down offer from a team wanting either Ace or Fears.
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Re: The VJ Edgecombe thread 

Post#199 » by fatlever » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:02 pm

KingCat wrote:Apparently he looked nervous during the Sixers workout and missed a bunch of shots. Bros not helping me get over my MKG II concerns :cry:

Starting to think Sixers are taking Tre or trading the pick for number 3 to take Ace.


i had not seen/heard that?
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Post#200 » by Braggins » Mon Jun 23, 2025 6:32 pm

I don't think the MKG comparison makes much sense. Mostly because MKG was a straight up horrific shooter and VJ is already a better shooter than MKG ever was. They also are completely different size/position and have very different levels of athleticism.

I put a decent amount of stock into how he well he did in the Olympics playing against better competition but with better spacing.

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