2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

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This is who the Spurs/Rockets should be focused on

I said during the knicks/celtics series that i can see a swap of Green for Brown

Brown brings experience to Udokas system and a very young team.. Green brings an attacking/slashing ability that Boston needs at guard

[MorbidHEAT]

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It’s been a while, fellas.

Part of me would make that trade, but part of me says that we shouldn’t make any major trade. It should be a slow rebuild that puts us in position for years. These soft rebuilds always set us back. Unless it’s somehow a megastar that has years left in his prime, then we should pass. I don’t know if I would trade for KD that may have a year or 2 left, at most and hasn’t proven he can win without a super stacked team.

[twix2500]

If the Heat gets Durant expect all the young players to be replaced except for Ware. This has to be an immediate rebuild

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[HeatFan_NC]

I like Durant, but you don't give the farm for a 37 year old when next season starts. That's damn near malpractice

Yep. Most I would do is Jaime, Wiggins, Rozier and some of protected pick. Not paying Jimmy 56+ for the next two years was the right move, dont get back into the hole by getting into a bidding war and clearing out the cupboard for a 37 year old. Of the 5 teams mentioned I think at least 3 can outbid us comfortably if they are motivated and if KD wants to be there.

Thrown in Kyle Anderson. They can have him too

IMO it wouldn't make sense to go all-in for a 37 yr old who's at the tail end of his career....especially when we were reluctant to give a 35 yr old Jimmy Butler an extension.

If Giannis stays in MIL, how about trying to swap Wiggins/Rozier/Anderson for Bobby Portis?

[Beenie]

Forget KD.

Gonna get outbid which is good because the prevailing bid likely takes that team out of the Giannis mix.

Hope that the other teams who whiff on KD turn their attention to the Boston boys

Then go back to Phoenix and offer to save them from their Beal mistake in exchange for 2 FRPs and in return give them expiring contracts (Duncan, Rozier, Highsmith)

Then package 5 FRPs, Herro, Ware, and filler (Love, Slowmo) for Giannis.

It's a Hail Mary but within the realm of possibility.

If/ when the plan fails, buckle up for Derozan.

[greg4012]

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Another late 2nd rounder/undrafted guy

Miami looking to trade their FRP and going all in on the undrafted pool this year?

[twix2500]

Forget KD.

Gonna get outbid which is good because the prevailing bid likely takes that team out of the Giannis mix.

Hope that the other teams who whiff on KD turn their attention to the Boston boys

Then go back to Phoenix and offer to save them from their Beal mistake in exchange for 2 FRPs and expiring contracts (Duncan, Rozier, Highsmith)

Then package 5 FRPs, Herro, Ware, and filler (Love, Slowmo) for Giannis.

It's a Hail Mary but within the realm of possibility.

If/ when the plan fails, buckle up for Derozan.

Not sure the Heat will get outbid. Suns are very restricted in what they can accept in a trade. Durant can't be trade with another Suns player and the salaries must match 100% or be less than Durant contract

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It makes way more sense for both sides sadly. As soon as the Spurs entered the conversation and questions about the 2nd pick came into play, it was a wrap. We can't even begin to compete with that. Plus even without championship contention, Wemby studying under KD for 2-3 seasons >>>>>>> for the future of their franchise.

Honestly even when the Knicks entered the picture, it was kind of a signal that it wasn't going to happen for us. They also can offer a decent package without being terrible after.

That's why all the chatter about how above a KD trade we are bc KD is washed, old, etc. is funny. He might end up going for a lot. And yet somehow we are both too good for stars that are far and away better than our best players, but also everyone on our team sucks and is terrible.

It's not about being too good, it's about trying to be smart. It's about trying to avoid making moves that will cripple the franchise for another 3 or 4 years. No one has ever gotten ahead making obviously bad decisions. You don't invest in guys at the end of their career.

If KD wants to come over as a 1 year rental, that's fine. Giving him an extension is not.

It's a two year extension. Is that really making or breaking anything? I don't think so. And we're not exactly willing to break the bank for him in a trade. Most deals I've seen suggested are centered around Wiggins, Duncan/Rozier, Jaime/Jovic, and a 1st. Herro, Bam, Ware are untouchable as far as the trade goes. So where is the real investment? Adding KD to that core should be enticing, but too many people are acting like it would somehow make us worse.

Not saying I don't get your logic, I do. And ultimately the FO is gonna do whatever it wants anyway. But if Tyler makes another leap and Bam continues to develop on offense, we would be right in the mix. Boston will suck next year with Tatum out. The Bucks too. The rest of the playoff teams outside of Indy, Cleveland, and NYK were never that much better than us, even with as chaotic of a season as we had. Not to mention, making the KD move and then following up with a move to get Sexton/Collins and resign Davion would really cement us as top 2-4 in the conference.

It's the exact same scenario as last offseason with Jimmy. For whatever reason fans convince themselves that just because a guy has defied gravity so far, that it means he's never coming down. I don't want to pay a guy for the privilege of letting him cripple our cap. Old players should never get multi-year deals. There's one exception to that rule IMO and everyone already knows what that was. But Durant has not earned that, and he certainly hasn't earned that here. I know some Heat fans want to take one big swing, but I don't want us doing that by tying ourselves for 3 years to a guy who will be 37 years old when the season starts. I don't even think it would give us a real chance to win a championship this season because Durant has never shown the ability to drag lesser talent to a deep playoff run.

Trading for Durant on a multi-year deal with sky high salaries is trading for a ticking time bomb.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Steam picking up with Miami media so that confirms reports, Patrick James Riley has honed in on his “humble whale”

[MettaWorldPanda]

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I agree, Spurs too!!!!

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Forget KD.

Gonna get outbid which is good because the prevailing bid likely takes that team out of the Giannis mix.

Hope that the other teams who whiff on KD turn their attention to the Boston boys

Then go back to Phoenix and offer to save them from their Beal mistake in exchange for 2 FRPs and in return give them expiring contracts (Duncan, Rozier, Highsmith)

Then package 5 FRPs, Herro, Ware, and filler (Love, Slowmo) for Giannis.

It's a Hail Mary but within the realm of possibility.

If/ when the plan fails, buckle up for Derozan.

Why do people keep trying to trade Beal when he has a no trade clause? He doesn't want to go anywhere, and they can't make him. The only way I see him waiving that clause is in exchange for an extension.

[greg4012]

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Steam picking up with Miami media so that confirms reports, Patrick James Riley has honed in on his “humble whale”

Did I read that right? Brooklyn? Brooklyn trading with Phoenix to get KD back from them after trading KD to them would be next level absurd.

[EMC5466]

Miami media have been clued in on Pat Riley’s plan. Sounds like we have a legitimate chance of getting KD.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Steam picking up with Miami media so that confirms reports, Patrick James Riley has honed in on his “humble whale”

Did I read that right? Brooklyn? Brooklyn trading with Phoenix to get KD back from them after trading KD to them would be next level absurd.

I’m assuming as a facilitator with them being the only real major player this summer with loads of cap space but maybe I’m reading it wrong

[greg4012]

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Steam picking up with Miami media so that confirms reports, Patrick James Riley has honed in on his “humble whale”

Did I read that right? Brooklyn? Brooklyn trading with Phoenix to get KD back from them after trading KD to them would be next level absurd.

I’m assuming as a facilitator with them being the only real major player this summer with loads of cap space but maybe I’m reading it wrong

Only thing that makes sense lol

[Beenie]

Forget KD.

Gonna get outbid which is good because the prevailing bid likely takes that team out of the Giannis mix.

Hope that the other teams who whiff on KD turn their attention to the Boston boys

Then go back to Phoenix and offer to save them from their Beal mistake in exchange for 2 FRPs and in return give them expiring contracts (Duncan, Rozier, Highsmith)

Then package 5 FRPs, Herro, Ware, and filler (Love, Slowmo) for Giannis.

It's a Hail Mary but within the realm of possibility.

If/ when the plan fails, buckle up for Derozan.

Why do people keep trying to trade Beal when he has a no trade clause? He doesn't want to go anywhere, and they can't make him. The only way I see him waiving that clause is in exchange for an extension.

Its situational, is my guess.

He's not gonna waive it to go to a bad team or an unattractive city.

Hypothetically, in this scenario, if Mia figured a way to get Giannis to commit to them and got the word out to Beal, my guess is that he'd be very interested in joining that situation.

[Beenie]

Forget KD.

Gonna get outbid which is good because the prevailing bid likely takes that team out of the Giannis mix.

Hope that the other teams who whiff on KD turn their attention to the Boston boys

Then go back to Phoenix and offer to save them from their Beal mistake in exchange for 2 FRPs and expiring contracts (Duncan, Rozier, Highsmith)

Then package 5 FRPs, Herro, Ware, and filler (Love, Slowmo) for Giannis.

It's a Hail Mary but within the realm of possibility.

If/ when the plan fails, buckle up for Derozan.

Not sure the Heat will get outbid. Suns are very restricted in what they can accept in a trade. Durant can't be trade with another Suns player and the salaries must match 100% or be less than Durant contract

Its not that difficult.

SA, Hou, Minny, like Mia can all make the math work reasonably, as far as I have seen.

[carnageta]

There's no point of us trying to tank this upcoming season. Even if we don't make any improvements to the roster, Herro, Bam, and Spo will net us 35+ wins again next season (at the very least). We'll just waste another year of Bam's prime and end up with another pick that's in the 15-20 range lol.

We're probably 'lucky' we only won 37 games this season.. losing 16 games by less than 4 points probably isn't likely to occur again.

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There's no point of us trying to tank this upcoming season. Even if we don't make any improvements to the roster, Herro, Bam, and Spo will net us 35+ wins again next season (at the very least). We'll just waste another year of Bam's prime and end up with another pick that's in the 15-20 range lol.

We're probably 'lucky' we only won 37 games this season.. losing 16 games by less than 4 points probably isn't likely to occur again.

Yeah, we'll probably lose by more. Is it too early for Rex to post the prediction thread for next season?