The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

[Saberestar]

Why would you give up Ware?

I would want him on this team.

Yeah I would like him on the roster but probably they don't want to trade him (in that case Jovic to the Nets) or the Heat doesn't want to add any draft compensation if they give us Ware.

I would prefer Claxton/Cam J/mulitple picks over Wiggins/Duncan/Ware.

We are not taking Wiggins nor Robinson. Either they offer Ware or no deal.

We need to match salaries.

[TeamTragic]

Yeah I would like him on the roster but probably they don't want to trade him (in that case Jovic to the Nets) or the Heat doesn't want to add any draft compensation if they give us Ware.

I would prefer Claxton/Cam J/mulitple picks over Wiggins/Duncan/Ware.

We are not taking Wiggins nor Robinson. Either they offer Ware or no deal.

We need to match salaries.

I think we can get Claxton or Cam. Not both.

I would prefer Claxton/Ware/picks.

[matt131]

Read on Twitter

?s=46

[Ghost of Kleine]

Read on Twitter

[TeamTragic]

Read on Twitter

Not buying the Clippers stuff.

[Ghost of Kleine]

……Isiah Hartenstein, Miles Bridges, DeAndre Hunter, CAM JOHNSON, Dillon Brooks, LOU DORT, HERB JONES, AUSTIN REEVES, Jacob Poetl, Josh Green, Brandon Clarke, Donte Di Vincenzo, Aaron Nesmith, LONZO BALL, Naji Marshall, GOGA BIDATZE, Kenrich Williams, John Konchar, Kris Dunn, TOUMANI CAMARA, GG JACKSON, ANDRE JACKSON, Miles McBride, Trace Jackson Davis, Keon Ellis…..

I’d wager more than half will be signed/extended by then. Likely several traded as well some signed and traded. It will be interesting to compare your Xmas list to reality of two yrs down the road.

Teams aren’t letting young talent just walk away for nothing. And again, we are not the only buyers.

You and others play the game of ‘if I were king’ …. We know otherwise.

Maybe.........Maybe not! You don't need to be king to sign a number of quality free agents when you actually have cap flexibility. And it's 50/50 that many won't be available under this new CBA as it's penalties are going to force many teams to weigh some tough choices that they otherwise wouldn't have entertained in a less punitive CBA climate.

Regardless, there'll be plenty of solid options, and I'm more than willing to revisit this with you in the near future to assess accurate projections man.

[Ghost of Kleine]

We absolutely should not accept Julius Randle ever!! Not sold on Gobert either. Minny has nothing to give unless a 3rd team wants to get involved.

McDaniels Donte and Dilligham, plus the 17th pick.,

Period

Maybe asking for too much but I'd ask for an additional future first or a swap.

Interesting enough, as part of the Dillingham trade with the Spurs, the Spurs has the rights to swap for the best of Minny's (#1 protected) or Dallas's 2030 pick. Spurs also outright own Minny's 2031 FRP.

These suggestions sound familiar....lol. But yes, you're right. We absolutely should push for one of these added as value balances in the exchange.

[lilfishi22]

Read on Twitter

Clippers.....Never really thought about them. Not the most enticing draft picks though and not much in the way of interesting young talent

LA Clippers
2025 draft picks
First round: No. 30 (via Oklahoma City)
Second round: No. 51 (via Minnesota)

The Clippers remain in win-now mode for the foreseeable future and can use the draft to help build their bench. They selected Kobe Brown with the 30th pick last year, an ostensible win-now pick that didn't pay huge dividends, but finding a player with a realistic chance at contributing in the short term should be a prerogative for LA. They could use depth up and down the roster, particularly with Kawhi Leonard's history of sitting out game, so there is some flexibility to focus on whatever player they like best regardless of position. (Backup center has been a revolving door, in particular.) -- Woo

Incoming future first-round picks: 5

Own first in five out of the next seven years

Maximum tradeable future first-round picks: 2

Future second-round picks: 4

Future outgoing first-round picks:

Unprotected first to Oklahoma City or Washington (2026)

First-round swap with Oklahoma City or Denver (2027)

Unprotected first to Philadelphia (2028)

Top-three protected swap with Philadelphia (2029)

2026 - They are almost certain to lose this pick to OKC given OKC's pick will be worse
2027 - They are almost certain to get OKC's worse pick
2028 - Straight traded to Philly
2029 - Not too sure how things will look in 2029, they could be worse and Philly might be better by then.
2030 - They own their own pick here.

[SkyBill40]

How good is this Dillingham? Is he the best PG (prospect at least) in these deals, assuming Castle is a no go? He’s a little guy…. But so was KJ

If we want to play fast… PG is where it starts.

He was pretty nice at Kentucky, but he's not put it together at the NBA level just yet. I think he has a chance to greatly improve, but he needs more run than he's getting.

And there's pretty much no chance we're going to pull the reigning ROTY from the Spurs. Even thinking we have a chance is pretty laughable.

Sent from my SM-F936U using RealGM mobile app

[Ghost of Kleine]

How good is this Dillingham? Is he the best PG (prospect at least) in these deals, assuming Castle is a no go? He’s a little guy…. But so was KJ

If we want to play fast… PG is where it starts.

Think Immanuel Quickly lite/ Cole Anthony +??
He's quick and a crafty scorer like Brandon Jennings. But he was a recent top 8 pick in the 24' draft and is viewed as having untapped bu high upside potential as a shifty scoring guard. He should be able to pull a mid 1st or at minimum multiple 2nds.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Barry Jackson:

The Heat offered Jimmy Butler, Josh Richardson, a first-round pick, and Nikola Jovic for Kevin Durant at the trade deadline.

Suns rejected and asked for a larger return (via @flasportsbuzz)

Good! A responsible decision because that offer was honestly straight dog crap! They were short at least one more premium young asset and another 1st. Typical Riley lowball move.

[Ghost of Kleine]

Barry Jackson:

The Heat offered Jimmy Butler, Josh Richardson, a first-round pick, and Nikola Jovic for Kevin Durant at the trade deadline.

Suns rejected and asked for a larger return (via @flasportsbuzz)

Not sure I believe this report but add Ware/FRP and we have a deal.

Ware/Richardson/Jovic/2FRPs

Exactly! This value increase mentioned is absolutely mandatory or no deal!

[lilfishi22]

If OKC loses the Finals, do they become a serious player in the KD bidding war?

[Ghost of Kleine]

Read on Twitter

Not buying the Clippers stuff.

Agreed! The Clippers really have nothing of value to send out for KD. This is most likely Gambo doing Ishbia a favor and pushing this to posture and stimulate further interest to get teams to up their offers?

[Ghost of Kleine]

Read on Twitter

[lilfishi22]

Read on Twitter

Just high level thoughts....I like where this is going.

We don't get Randle who I don't really want
Rockets are involved
KD gets traded
4th team involved means potential for less crap coming our way

[TeamTragic]

Read on Twitter

DColdest is not a reliable leaker

[SkyBill40]

If OKC loses the Finals, do they become a serious player in the KD bidding war?

Nah. I don't seem them making a panic move that guarantees nothing and invites only disaster. Durant is still a big game player but he just isn't that dude he was the last time he suited up for them.

Sent from my SM-F936U using RealGM mobile app

[lilfishi22]

If OKC loses the Finals, do they become a serious player in the KD bidding war?

Nah. I don't seem them making a panic move that guarantees nothing and invites only disaster. Durant is still a big game player but he just isn't that dude he was the last time he suited up for them.

Sent from my SM-F936U using RealGM mobile app

I don't think OKC really expects or need prime OKC KD though. The question for them isn't whether KD can help lift them into a contender because they are already a contender. The question is whether KD can help lift them into a championship winning team. They don't need KD to win a whole bunch of regular season games like what we've needed from him just to get by in the regular season. SGA, Jalen and Chet are talented enough to get them a top seed.

I look at their playoff run and they are a very deep team and you could almost expect 4-6 guys put up double digit points every game with SGA putting up his usual 30ppg. Where they've faltered, I think it's because they didn't have a super reliable 20-25ppg scorer who is also a great shooter to stretch the defense. OKC are the 4th worst 3PT shooting team in these playoffs. Their top 3 in 3PT attempts shoot 32.5%, 30.9% and 31.1% and that accounts for about 45% of all their 3PT attempts. AC is the only guy shooting above 40% for them in these playoffs.

37yo KD is still going to give them 40%+ from 3, he's still going to get them a reliable and ultra efficient 25ppg+, and as much of a foul-merchant SGA is the Thunder are kind of middle of the pack when it comes to getting to the line. KD is going to get them more reliable FT's especially down the line.

To your point though, I don't think they will give up the farm for KD but given how much draft capital they have, they don't need to give up the farm to make it worth our while.

[Rebound Mound]

If the Suns truly intend on retooling around Booker, I think the most obvious choice is to trade KD for KAT. The Suns were seeking a big that could distribute the ball, bring the ball up the court, and shoot 3s, and KAT can do all of that. I think having a big like KAT makes it easier to play Oso as well.

Not the best big in the game, but one of the best. Certainly one of the top three now in the league. If Embiid does not play, I just see Jokic above him. I do not think the Knicks would do that.
KAT needs a player like Anounoby besides for him to excel, as he is a little bit soft sometimes. It seems like he is tough, because he likes to bang in the low post, but then he is soft in the def end.

Retool with Booker, KAT, Dunn, Oso, Plumlee, Allen, Bol and then Bitadze for Beal and a PG would be great.

Don't think they can because KAT makes like 60M and we need to get under the 2nd apron first.

I believe we can send two players for one, thus gaining some space.
For example, KD and ONeale for KAT and a pick.