2025 NBA Draft

[drsd]

We need Traone but he won’t help much next season.

He is a true creator.

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There is a zero-percent chance he slides to 16. For him, or Knueppel in trade-up scenarios, Orlando could look for a very bold trade of both FRPs this year, and the Phoenix FRP of 2026. It would be a bold, high-risk move for Traore or Knueppel, but perhaps a risk worth taking.

[RookieStar]

Why? Maxey Mccain and Tre... i think they can work it out as the starting 1-2-3 especially with PG reportedly on his way out...

True, I forget Tre is 6’6 and could play the 3. Damn, that backcourt/wing combo could be pretty amazing. A lot of big shot takers and makers.

I would’ve thought it’d cost them the 3 to offload PG though? 3 and PG to move down to 8?

They can probably package him and Embiid in a multi team scenario. Having a C like biid would be counterprodictive with a dynamic backcourt like that.

[eyriq]

We need Traone but he won’t help much next season.

He is a true creator.

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Hard pass. We desperately need shooting and Traore can’t shoot. Adding another non-spacer to this roster just digs the hole deeper.

[RichCollab]

We need Traone but he won’t help much next season.

He is a true creator.

Watch on YouTube

Hard pass. We desperately need shooting and Traore can’t shoot. Adding another non-spacer to this roster just digs the hole deeper.

I would argue we need play makers the most. His shooting is a big question mark for sure.

He isn’t a ready now player either.

[fendilim]

We need Traone but he won’t help much next season.

He is a true creator.

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Hard pass. We desperately need shooting and Traore can’t shoot. Adding another non-spacer to this roster just digs the hole deeper.

Meh. Just trade anthony black for a shooter

[RichCollab]

I hope we trade both our picks and or keep 1 pick to draft a big.

We need proven NBA guards.

[T-Cat]

I hope we trade both our picks and or keep 1 pick to draft a big.

We need proven NBA guards.

We have to do our homework! We shouldn't trade our picks just because we need proven talent.

There's value in every draft! We could move up in the draft as well if we need to get our guy! We need to be aggressive.

In 2018, We missed out on Trae Young and Luka Doncic because we wanna move up then selected Mo Bamba, while also passing up on SGA.

[yoyojw17]

I hope we trade both our picks and or keep 1 pick to draft a big.

We need proven NBA guards.

We have to do our homework! We shouldn't trade our picks just because we need proven talent.

There's value in every draft! We could move up in the draft as well if we need to get our guy! We need to be aggressive.

In 2018, We missed out on Trae Young and Luka Doncic because we wanna move up then selected Mo Bamba, while also passing up on SGA.

The funny thing is.... we will trade the picks.... then players x, y, and z becomes stars or exactly what we needed.... "trade target turns out to be meh" and then most people will come back and complain that we could have play x and y.

There is no ultimate right or wrong answer to it in the moment. On these boards.... WE get the pleasure of throwing out 100 possibilities.... but there are no consequences to our decision. WE remember the ones that we got correct and sweep the rest underneath the table. These guys get to make those decisions and then it's set in stone and they gotta wait and see. Zion... THE MAN.... "generational talent"..... talented.... but injury prone and undisciplined with his shape etc. Has not taken them anywhere.... and has probably hampered the team for the last few years. Ja Morant.... talented..... but... has made things difficult for his team as well.

then there are players that are picked because of potential... and they never made it. Mo bamba .... interviews probably could make it seem as though there was hunger... but the potential was there with his metrics and athleticism.... and his possible ability to shoot. He could have been our Rudy Gobert+. But.... you make the decision and wait for it to play out. And it did not play out for us. No redos.... no what ifs.... you just have to keep going.

So whatever decision they make.... i pray it works out in our favor.

[Idiosyncratic]

I hope we trade both our picks and or keep 1 pick to draft a big.

We need proven NBA guards.

We have to do our homework! We shouldn't trade our picks just because we need proven talent.

There's value in every draft! We could move up in the draft as well if we need to get our guy! We need to be aggressive.

In 2018, We missed out on Trae Young and Luka Doncic because we wanna move up then selected Mo Bamba, while also passing up on SGA.

The funny thing is.... we will trade the picks.... then players x, y, and z becomes stars or exactly what we needed.... "trade target turns out to be meh" and then most people will come back and complain that we could have play x and y.

There is no ultimate right or wrong answer to it in the moment. On these boards.... WE get the pleasure of throwing out 100 possibilities.... but there are no consequences to our decision. WE remember the ones that we got correct and sweep the rest underneath the table. These guys get to make those decisions and then it's set in stone and they gotta wait and see. Zion... THE MAN.... "generational talent"..... talented.... but injury prone and undisciplined with his shape etc. Has not taken them anywhere.... and has probably hampered the team for the last few years. Ja Morant.... talented..... but... has made things difficult for his team as well.

then there are players that are picked because of potential... and they never made it. Mo bamba .... interviews probably could make it seem as though there was hunger... but the potential was there with his metrics and athleticism.... and his possible ability to shoot. He could have been our Rudy Gobert+. But.... you make the decision and wait for it to play out. And it did not play out for us. No redos.... no what ifs.... you just have to keep going.

So whatever decision they make.... i pray it works out in our favor.

Agree.

And they do have to trade for a guard obviously. I personally hope if they aren't going for someone very good that they can get them for 25 + 2nds or maybe a future heavily protected 1st, but maybe that won't be possible. If they go for someone really good, sure trade multiple picks or 16 + stuff. Also think moving 16 is fine if they are using it to shed salary and bring in someone decent plus use the MLE after. Essentially would allow us to bring in 2 solid players for 16 which I wouldn't have a problem with at all.

But you know whoever is picked with the pick they trade is going to end up good I won't be mad about it though as long as they pay a fair price for who they acquire. They have to get these guys proven help.

[VFX]

Ideally…

Trade #25 + a combination of players for an established guard. If not 25, then 16 if absolutely necessary. This can include AB if we are discussing Reaves and C.White only.

Draft the other pick. This is probably a big because Isaac or Goga is included in the aforementioned package. Also, Moe is out until Christmas.

Lastly, do whatever you can to move up in the second and draft Proctor. He’s exactly what Orlando needs in terms of a ball mover/ creator off the bench.

That’s my draft strategy as of now.

[OrlandoDream]

Its gonna be hilarious when we end up trading both picks.

For a guy that should cost 1, but they have to add an extra to dump a bad contract signed just last offseason. Would be perfect full circle moment for Weltman. I am hoping that doesn't happen, but for some reason I am starting to feel pessimistic.

If he felt other teams were trying to squeeze him at the deadline, I wonder how he's going to feel about them when they now know he's under pressure after a failed season...

I think we have blown this "squeeze" thing way out of proportion. Teams squeezing each other happens with every trade transaction in the NBA. Every team is going to try and get the most value for their players. It will come down to see who calls their bluff. Ex: Simons and POR situation. Orlando is a clear fit and has interest. POR knows this but we also know they are not gonna extend him and have to trade him at some point as he doesn't fit long term needs. They are asking for too much, why he remains in POR. As time passes, his asking price will go down. Will weltman overpay or POR give in?

NBA trades are a game of chicken. See who is gonna bail out first. I respect WEltman for standing his ground. Yes we need to make a move or two but not a Ibaka Henigan one that will set us back years. There are like half a dozen targets we can acquire to improve this team. Squeeze us too much, then we move on to another time.

[eyriq]

Here is my assessment of common scoring guards we've discussed and a grade for their fit along with why

1. Simons: A-, elite pull-up spacing and secondary playmaking that directly solve Orlando’s offensive gaps

2. Coby: B+, two-way size, efficient volume shooting, and lineup flexibility without breaking the cap, though his moderate creation ceiling and trade cost keep him just behind Simons

3. Reaves: B, the most well-rounded guard on the board (spacing, passing, and defending) but his rising cost and limited shot creation relative to Simons limit his upside fit

4. Sexton: B-, brings rim pressure and efficient scoring at a low acquisition cost, but his limited 3P volume and poor defence make him an incomplete solution

5. Poole: C+, gives you nuclear pull-up range but at the highest financial and defensive cost, making him a risky fit for a Mosley team that wins with discipline and structure

[Knightro]

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[Knightro]

Here is my assessment of common scoring guards we've discussed and a grade for their fit along with why

1. Simons: A-, elite pull-up spacing and secondary playmaking that directly solve Orlando’s offensive gaps

2. Coby: B+, two-way size, efficient volume shooting, and lineup flexibility without breaking the cap, though his moderate creation ceiling and trade cost keep him just behind Simons

3. Reaves: B, the most well-rounded guard on the board (spacing, passing, and defending) but his rising cost and limited shot creation relative to Simons limit his upside fit

4. Sexton: B-, brings rim pressure and efficient scoring at a low acquisition cost, but his limited 3P volume and poor defence make him an incomplete solution

5. Poole: C+, gives you nuclear pull-up range but at the highest financial and defensive cost, making him a risky fit for a Mosley team that wins with discipline and structure

Monk?

And suggesting Reaves has limited shot creation relative to Simons is wild.

[eyriq]

Here is my assessment of common scoring guards we've discussed and a grade for their fit along with why

1. Simons: A-, elite pull-up spacing and secondary playmaking that directly solve Orlando’s offensive gaps

2. Coby: B+, two-way size, efficient volume shooting, and lineup flexibility without breaking the cap, though his moderate creation ceiling and trade cost keep him just behind Simons

3. Reaves: B, the most well-rounded guard on the board (spacing, passing, and defending) but his rising cost and limited shot creation relative to Simons limit his upside fit

4. Sexton: B-, brings rim pressure and efficient scoring at a low acquisition cost, but his limited 3P volume and poor defence make him an incomplete solution

5. Poole: C+, gives you nuclear pull-up range but at the highest financial and defensive cost, making him a risky fit for a Mosley team that wins with discipline and structure

Monk?

And suggesting Reaves has limited shot creation relative to Simons is wild.

I forgot Monk and posted in the wrong thread. Whoops

[fendilim]

Here is my assessment of common scoring guards we've discussed and a grade for their fit along with why

1. Simons: A-, elite pull-up spacing and secondary playmaking that directly solve Orlando’s offensive gaps

2. Coby: B+, two-way size, efficient volume shooting, and lineup flexibility without breaking the cap, though his moderate creation ceiling and trade cost keep him just behind Simons

3. Reaves: B, the most well-rounded guard on the board (spacing, passing, and defending) but his rising cost and limited shot creation relative to Simons limit his upside fit

4. Sexton: B-, brings rim pressure and efficient scoring at a low acquisition cost, but his limited 3P volume and poor defence make him an incomplete solution

5. Poole: C+, gives you nuclear pull-up range but at the highest financial and defensive cost, making him a risky fit for a Mosley team that wins with discipline and structure

If i were the Magic, I would honestly consider trading for Dalton Knecht than Reaves.

The Lakers will likely have to move on from Knecht after the trade deadline drama. And Dalton is tied for 3 more cheap years, positional size and can shoot. Reaces is basically a rental at this point. I dont think we’ll be able to retain him for the price he is looking for..

Goga for Knecht maybe.

[GelbeWand09]

Here is my assessment of common scoring guards we've discussed and a grade for their fit along with why

1. Simons: A-, elite pull-up spacing and secondary playmaking that directly solve Orlando’s offensive gaps

2. Coby: B+, two-way size, efficient volume shooting, and lineup flexibility without breaking the cap, though his moderate creation ceiling and trade cost keep him just behind Simons

3. Reaves: B, the most well-rounded guard on the board (spacing, passing, and defending) but his rising cost and limited shot creation relative to Simons limit his upside fit

4. Sexton: B-, brings rim pressure and efficient scoring at a low acquisition cost, but his limited 3P volume and poor defence make him an incomplete solution

5. Poole: C+, gives you nuclear pull-up range but at the highest financial and defensive cost, making him a risky fit for a Mosley team that wins with discipline and structure

Monk?

And suggesting Reaves has limited shot creation relative to Simons is wild.

Yea, had to read it twice to believe it. Eyriq you should watch more film of Reaves & Simons. Another thing i dont understand is the mentioning of defense for some as a negativ point but not for others. They are ALL really bad defenders. Coby probably got the best tools to be better in a different system.

[eyriq]

Here is my assessment of common scoring guards we've discussed and a grade for their fit along with why

1. Simons: A-, elite pull-up spacing and secondary playmaking that directly solve Orlando’s offensive gaps

2. Coby: B+, two-way size, efficient volume shooting, and lineup flexibility without breaking the cap, though his moderate creation ceiling and trade cost keep him just behind Simons

3. Reaves: B, the most well-rounded guard on the board (spacing, passing, and defending) but his rising cost and limited shot creation relative to Simons limit his upside fit

4. Sexton: B-, brings rim pressure and efficient scoring at a low acquisition cost, but his limited 3P volume and poor defence make him an incomplete solution

5. Poole: C+, gives you nuclear pull-up range but at the highest financial and defensive cost, making him a risky fit for a Mosley team that wins with discipline and structure

Monk?

And suggesting Reaves has limited shot creation relative to Simons is wild.

Yea, had to read it twice to believe it. Eyriq you should watch more film of Reaves & Simons. Another thing i dont understand is the mentioning of defense for some as a negativ point but not for others. They are ALL really bad defenders. Coby probably got the best tools to be better in a different system.

I think Reaves benefits from playing in a mature offensive system. Simons wins on volume, Reaves on efficiency, but I prefer Simons due to his track-record of self-creation and tough shot-quality. I suspect that playing alongside Paolo and Franz will improve his shot-quality and efficiency.

You are right that they all are bad on defense however some have better size than others (Sexton) or have an overall worse reputation (Poole).

[RichCollab]

Here is my assessment of common scoring guards we've discussed and a grade for their fit along with why

1. Simons: A-, elite pull-up spacing and secondary playmaking that directly solve Orlando’s offensive gaps

2. Coby: B+, two-way size, efficient volume shooting, and lineup flexibility without breaking the cap, though his moderate creation ceiling and trade cost keep him just behind Simons

3. Reaves: B, the most well-rounded guard on the board (spacing, passing, and defending) but his rising cost and limited shot creation relative to Simons limit his upside fit

4. Sexton: B-, brings rim pressure and efficient scoring at a low acquisition cost, but his limited 3P volume and poor defence make him an incomplete solution

5. Poole: C+, gives you nuclear pull-up range but at the highest financial and defensive cost, making him a risky fit for a Mosley team that wins with discipline and structure

I would put Simons between Reaves and Sexton.

[MasterGMer]

True, I forget Tre is 6’6 and could play the 3. Damn, that backcourt/wing combo could be pretty amazing. A lot of big shot takers and makers.

I would’ve thought it’d cost them the 3 to offload PG though? 3 and PG to move down to 8?

They can probably package him and Embiid in a multi team scenario. Having a C like biid would be counterprodictive with a dynamic backcourt like that.

There are report saying 76ers want to move up to No.2 pick.

Also they are trading Embiid? That could be a bold move but it somehow makes sense too