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Post#1621 » by 8516knicks » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:26 pm

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Im Coming Home wrote:Is Kerr kinda washed up now a days or is it just the Warriors roster being old


I think Ian was trolling a bit with that one but I'll bite because I'm not a big Kerr guy on multiple fronts

Kerr has basically never shown he can win without Steph. Nor has he shown a consistent ability to ever develop anybody. Almost all of Golden States first round picks have flipped or disappointed in the Kerr era.

He was a disaster in the FIBA world cup where they didn't medal with one of the most talented squads in the tournament and the US struggled in the Olympics but ultimately took the golf against France because Steph went nuclear. Take it for what it's worth.

He runs a very motion/modern triangle based system. Almost no pick and roll. It's very unique and tailored specifically to Steph's abilities.

When it's working well it looks great because it's an extremely fluid read and react brand of basketball. But it's a very hard system for players to adapt to because it takes a ton of off ball movement, IQ and screen setting to fit in. It's why he's had such struggles generating offense when Steph is off the floor in recent years.

It would be interesting experiment to see how this roster would be able to transition into a Kerr type offense. I could see him really unlocking a guy like Hart (a guy he played a ton in FIBA FWIW) for example but the lack of pick and roll and iso ball may be a really tough adjustment for Jalen (A guy who struggled at FIBA under Kerr)


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Post#1622 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:34 pm

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Synciere wrote:80 pages huh?

How many different ways can one say we look like we don’t have a plan or know what we’re doing?


It's the most bizarre coaching search I can remember. We contacted several teams to ask to speak with coaches under contract. Has this ever happened? This has to be some sort of smoke screen. I can't imagine they are serious with this approach because it makes zero sense.


Yet ONLY ONE coach (so far) cried out I am ready to leave my team for yours....
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Post#1623 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:35 pm

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Synciere wrote:80 pages huh?

How many different ways can one say we look like we don’t have a plan or know what we’re doing?


It's the most bizarre coaching search I can remember. We contacted several teams to ask to speak with coaches under contract. Has this ever happened? This has to be some sort of smoke screen. I can't imagine they are serious with this approach because it makes zero sense.

I believe I've recently read this point of view before.


Read it again because it's true. :lol: This is just bizarre to me. The first 5 choices we looked at were coaches for other teams? What is the goal here? How does it look for all the HC candidates who are already available? Why aren't we asking to talk to asst coaches? None of this makes sense to me.

I'm not in panic mode but, I am a bit confused at the way they are doing things right now. I just don't see the logic.
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Post#1624 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:37 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Synciere wrote:80 pages huh?

How many different ways can one say we look like we don’t have a plan or know what we’re doing?


It's the most bizarre coaching search I can remember. We contacted several teams to ask to speak with coaches under contract. Has this ever happened? This has to be some sort of smoke screen. I can't imagine they are serious with this approach because it makes zero sense.


Yet ONLY ONE coach (so far) cried out I am ready to leave my team for yours....


Who did this?
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Post#1625 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:40 pm

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KnixinSix wrote:
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It's the most bizarre coaching search I can remember. We contacted several teams to ask to speak with coaches under contract. Has this ever happened? This has to be some sort of smoke screen. I can't imagine they are serious with this approach because it makes zero sense.


Yet ONLY ONE coach (so far) cried out I am ready to leave my team for yours....


Who did this?


Im not Kidd-ing here JB. 8-) :lol: in a manner of speaking that is EXACTLY what he did

You put out the trial balloons to see which coaches would want to come and coach this squad. Which coaches think this squad and working for the Knicks would be the ideal destination for them.

Right now only one has come forward (at least publicly) but who knows? Maybe their is more than one. But likely it points to Kidd. He pretty much made it clear he would totally move on from Dallas to come over here. Why alienate the current team and the city he lives in unless he is truly wanting to leave Dallas to coach the knicks ? Will Dallas hold him hostage or will they part ways. Will they try and squeeze every once or blood play hard ball negotiations or try to pin this on Jason before letting him go? All to be figured out likely after the finals and maybe quickly after the finals. Things are released on cdrtain days for a reason its all calculated man.
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Post#1626 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:49 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Yet ONLY ONE coach (so far) cried out I am ready to leave my team for yours....


Who did this?


Im not Kidd-ing here JB. 8-) :lol: in a manner of speaking that is EXACTLY what he did


Only Windhorst reported "mutual interest". No other insider reported this which I find suspect.
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Post#1627 » by prophet_of_rage » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:55 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:
Im Coming Home wrote:Is Kerr kinda washed up now a days or is it just the Warriors roster being old


I think Ian was trolling a bit with that one but I'll bite because I'm not a big Kerr guy on multiple fronts

Kerr has basically never shown he can win without Steph. Nor has he shown a consistent ability to ever develop anybody. Almost all of Golden States first round picks have flipped or disappointed in the Kerr era.

He was a disaster in the FIBA world cup where they didn't medal with one of the most talented squads in the tournament and the US struggled in the Olympics but ultimately took the golf against France because Steph went nuclear. Take it for what it's worth.

He runs a very motion/modern triangle based system. Almost no pick and roll. It's very unique and tailored specifically to Steph's abilities.

When it's working well it looks great because it's an extremely fluid read and react brand of basketball. But it's a very hard system for players to adapt to because it takes a ton of off ball movement, IQ and screen setting to fit in. It's why he's had such struggles generating offense when Steph is off the floor in recent years.

It would be interesting experiment to see how this roster would be able to transition into a Kerr type offense. I could see him really unlocking a guy like Hart (a guy he played a ton in FIBA FWIW) for example but the lack of pick and roll and iso ball may be a really tough adjustment for Jalen (A guy who struggled at FIBA under Kerr)

Not disagreeing with your overall assessment but I blame the front office for Kuminga and Moody being not very good picks
Kuminga is a great pick. You see what he does when given the chsnce. Kerr doesn't particularly like him.

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Post#1629 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:59 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Yet ONLY ONE coach (so far) cried out I am ready to leave my team for yours....


Who did this?


Im not Kidd-ing here JB. 8-) :lol: in a manner of speaking that is EXACTLY what he did

You put out the trial balloons to see which coaches would want to come and coach this squad. Which coaches think this squad and working for the Knicks would be the ideal destination for them.

Right now only one has come forward (at least publicly) but who knows? Maybe their is more than one. But likely it points to Kidd. He pretty much made it clear he would totally move on from Dallas to come over here. Why alienate the current team and the city he lives in unless he is truly wanting to leave Dallas to coach the knicks ? Will Dallas hold him hostage or will they part ways. Will they try and squeeze every once or blood play hard ball negotiations or try to pin this on Jason before letting him go? All to be figured out likely after the finals and maybe quickly after the finals. Things are released on cdrtain days for a reason its all calculated man.


Kidd publicly said he wants to come here? When? Where?

If we want to play the rabbit hole game... It's a smoke screen to avoid tampering charges because behind the scenes Kidd is interested. That would make some sense but, I don't see anywhere that Kidd said anything openly.
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Post#1630 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 12, 2025 12:59 pm

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Who did this?


Im not Kidd-ing here JB. 8-) :lol: in a manner of speaking that is EXACTLY what he did


Only Windhorst reported "mutual interest". No other insider reported this which I find suspect.


It was more than Woj and Woj even on his own is more reliable (than Shams for Knicks stuff) and one of the best out there as well.
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Post#1631 » by Jadoogar » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:06 pm

Fury wrote:
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Do you think the NBA will go into next season with the same coaches on the same teams?


i don't understand the question. are you asking if a coach on another team will be fired before the season starts ?


I’m saying that if that’s a possibility the Knicks don’t want to miss out on that by making a quick hire.

Let’s say they hire Bryant. And then Lue gets let go a week later. And they didn’t know cause they didn’t ask. Why risk that?


anyone who was going to be fired, has already been fired imo.
Carlise and Mark D aren't going to get fired at this point.
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Post#1632 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:09 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Who did this?


Im not Kidd-ing here JB. 8-) :lol: in a manner of speaking that is EXACTLY what he did

You put out the trial balloons to see which coaches would want to come and coach this squad. Which coaches think this squad and working for the Knicks would be the ideal destination for them.

Right now only one has come forward (at least publicly) but who knows? Maybe their is more than one. But likely it points to Kidd. He pretty much made it clear he would totally move on from Dallas to come over here. Why alienate the current team and the city he lives in unless he is truly wanting to leave Dallas to coach the knicks ? Will Dallas hold him hostage or will they part ways. Will they try and squeeze every once or blood play hard ball negotiations or try to pin this on Jason before letting him go? All to be figured out likely after the finals and maybe quickly after the finals. Things are released on cdrtain days for a reason its all calculated man.


Kidd publicly said he wants to come here? When? Where?

If we want to play the rabbit hole game... It's a smoke screen to avoid tampering charges because behind the scenes Kidd is interested. That would make some sense but, I don't see anywhere that Kidd said anything openly.


Yes, Jason Kidd's "ears would perk up" if the New York Knicks expressed interest in him as their next head coach, according to ESPN's Tim MacMahon. MacMahon noted that Kidd has a strong relationship with Jalen Brunson and many people within the Knicks organization, and that he wouldn't dismiss the possibility of Kidd being interested in the job....

Another Scoop here :



And Woj made mention of it as well.....

NYPost reported on it....

https://nypost.com/2025/06/09/sports/knicks-jason-kidd-have-mutual-interest-in-potential-blockbuster/

Point being Kidd has most definitely back channeled interest back. And it's multiple different reporters and media reporting it....
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Post#1633 » by NYKProspect » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:09 pm

The media is overreacting quite a bit, i feel like regardless of what the knicks did, the media was going to find a way to make it negative. if the knicks fired thibs and then hired somebody the nexy day, the media would find a way to spin it in a negative way by saying we never did a proper coaching search. so lets relax and let Leon and the rest of the Org do their jobs. leave no stone unturned!
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Post#1634 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:09 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Im not Kidd-ing here JB. 8-) :lol: in a manner of speaking that is EXACTLY what he did


Only Windhorst reported "mutual interest". No other insider reported this which I find suspect.


It was more than Woj and Woj even on his own is more reliable (than Shams for Knicks stuff) and one of the best out there as well.


Kidd never said anything publicly.
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Post#1635 » by Jalen Bluntson » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:13 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Im not Kidd-ing here JB. 8-) :lol: in a manner of speaking that is EXACTLY what he did

You put out the trial balloons to see which coaches would want to come and coach this squad. Which coaches think this squad and working for the Knicks would be the ideal destination for them.

Right now only one has come forward (at least publicly) but who knows? Maybe their is more than one. But likely it points to Kidd. He pretty much made it clear he would totally move on from Dallas to come over here. Why alienate the current team and the city he lives in unless he is truly wanting to leave Dallas to coach the knicks ? Will Dallas hold him hostage or will they part ways. Will they try and squeeze every once or blood play hard ball negotiations or try to pin this on Jason before letting him go? All to be figured out likely after the finals and maybe quickly after the finals. Things are released on cdrtain days for a reason its all calculated man.


Kidd publicly said he wants to come here? When? Where?

If we want to play the rabbit hole game... It's a smoke screen to avoid tampering charges because behind the scenes Kidd is interested. That would make some sense but, I don't see anywhere that Kidd said anything openly.


Yes, Jason Kidd's "ears would perk up" if the New York Knicks expressed interest in him as their next head coach, according to ESPN's Tim MacMahon. MacMahon noted that Kidd has a strong relationship with Jalen Brunson and many people within the Knicks organization, and that he wouldn't dismiss the possibility of Kidd being interested in the job....

Another Scoop here :



And Woj made mention of it as well.....

NYPost reported on it....

https://nypost.com/2025/06/09/sports/knicks-jason-kidd-have-mutual-interest-in-potential-blockbuster/

Point being Kidd has most definitely back channeled interest back. And it's multiple different reporters and media reporting it....


You're posting someone's opinion. This is silly. Everyone does this. They take an opinion and retweet it or rebrand it as fact. Kidd never said anything openly about wanting to come here.
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Post#1636 » by KnixinSix » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:21 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Kidd publicly said he wants to come here? When? Where?

If we want to play the rabbit hole game... It's a smoke screen to avoid tampering charges because behind the scenes Kidd is interested. That would make some sense but, I don't see anywhere that Kidd said anything openly.


Yes, Jason Kidd's "ears would perk up" if the New York Knicks expressed interest in him as their next head coach, according to ESPN's Tim MacMahon. MacMahon noted that Kidd has a strong relationship with Jalen Brunson and many people within the Knicks organization, and that he wouldn't dismiss the possibility of Kidd being interested in the job....

Another Scoop here :



And Woj made mention of it as well.....

NYPost reported on it....

https://nypost.com/2025/06/09/sports/knicks-jason-kidd-have-mutual-interest-in-potential-blockbuster/

Point being Kidd has most definitely back channeled interest back. And it's multiple different reporters and media reporting it....


You're posting someone's opinion. This is silly. Everyone does this. They take an opinion and retweet it or rebrand it as fact. Kidd never said anything openly about wanting to come here.


When 4 or 5 reporters with some being fairly reputable are all reporting it.....It has at MINUMUM been back channeled he is interested. Keep that in mind. In any event wait if you still disagree at least wait and and see how this plays out after the finals when the veil finally comes off more since the NBA wants to focus on the in-court stuff right now as much as possible.

With that said I am not saying it WILL 100% be Kidd only that I am very confident he has backchanneled interest and that means they are still very likely in active negotiations behind the scenes right now.
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Post#1637 » by FrozenEnvelope » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:23 pm

Leon can't win at this point with this hire and we will get trolled and laughed at regardless UNLESS Kidd somehow ends up here which I think is unlikely since he's hired two assistants. So how do you sell hiring Bryant or Brown after all this? I think you could sell someone like Malone and Budenholzer because they come with championship pedigree but everyone else is going to get heavily bashed. I don't think Leon played this right. We shouldn't cry over spilled milk but we should've held on to Thibs and fired him when we had a clear guy or two in mind. Getting rejected left and right and getting laughed at is not a good look.
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Post#1638 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:24 pm

Imagine trying to gauge the progress of something by monitoring the time cycle of tweets.

No wonder the country is so f*cking ret*rded now.

Interesting to see a large swath of the population groomed in this way.

It's almost as if it's by design.
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Post#1639 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:26 pm

FrozenEnvelope wrote:Leon can't win at this point with this hire and we will get trolled and laughed at regardless UNLESS Kidd somehow ends up here which I think is unlikely since he's hired two assistants. So how do you sell hiring Bryant or Brown after all this? I think you could sell someone like Malone and Budenholzer because they come with championship pedigree but everyone else is going to get heavily bashed. I don't think Leon played this right. We shouldn't cry over spilled milk but we should've held on to Thibs and fired him when we had a clear guy or two in mind. Getting rejected left and right and getting laughed at is not a good look.



imagine your employer interviewing people behind your back before you are fired...I'm sure that would go over real well. Like Thibs wouldn't get wind of other potential coaches getting interviewed to replace him?

What coach would interview for the job knowing thibs hasn't been officially fired yet?

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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1640 » by FrozenEnvelope » Thu Jun 12, 2025 1:27 pm

Kidd can want to come here all he wants but Nico and Dallas have all the power. They can tell Kidd to STFU and coach and honor his contract or simply demand a crazy package of picks from us to terminate his contract. And if Kidd really wanted to leave, why did he hire two assistants this past week?

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