NBA Trade Thread #12

[ChettheJet]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Somebody will have to explain how the Bulls rate Moses Moody so highly that they'd want him at any price. You've got them trading twice the player in an expiring Coby White for a guys making as much signed for 2 more years. Without 2 FRP's the discussion doesn't even begin.

I'd be ready, willing if able to trade with PHIL. It looks like a win right now move for PHIL right up until Embiid ten George get injured and they decide to tear it down and maybe they get a S&T for Coby Then even #12 looks good to them

The Bulls giving up the PORT pick to move up to #3 is worth saying goodbye to Coby to have whichever kid tied up for 5 years

[Chi town]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Only thing valuable for GS is future picks post Steph. Don’t see them trading those.

How much is it worth to maximize Steph, Jimmy and Draymond right now though? Thy have three old max players and still can legit be contenders. They're going to have to sacrifice some future for talent right now, Coby would have REALLY helped them when Steph went down, way more than Moody or a future pick.

AK doesn’t value future picks. He wants to win not build a winner.

What he should have done was trade Coby at least year’s deadline and tanked out. Play out next season as a competitive tank in a star heavy draft and then hit the gas.

[Chi town]

Only a few players I’m willing to trade Coby for.

Tre Johnson is one of them.

[Chi town]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Somebody will have to explain how the Bulls rate Moses Moody so highly that they'd want him at any price. You've got them trading twice the player in an expiring Coby White for a guys making as much signed for 2 more years. Without 2 FRP's the discussion doesn't even begin.

I'd be ready, willing if able to trade with PHIL. It looks like a win right now move for PHIL right up until Embiid ten George get injured and they decide to tear it down and maybe they get a S&T for Coby Then even #12 looks good to them

The Bulls giving up the PORT pick to move up to #3 is worth saying goodbye to Coby to have whichever kid tied up for 5 years

Moody is meh. Nothing special. Nothing on ball. Would much prefer a higher upside rookie like Drake.

[jnrjr79]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Somebody will have to explain how the Bulls rate Moses Moody so highly that they'd want him at any price.

He's got a lot of room to grow, but has shown some defensive acumen and could help in that regard if the Bulls are committed to Giddey. Coby and Giddey are a rough fit.

You've got them trading twice the player in an expiring Coby White for a guys making as much signed for 2 more years.

The idea that it's a guy making just as much (he's not, he's actually cheaper, but anyway) and signed for 2 more years is part of the appeal, because Coby is going to cost a lot more when he gets re-signed.

Without 2 FRP's the discussion doesn't even begin.

I doubt you get 2 FRPs from anyone for one year of Coby White. 1 lightly protected FRP seems like the best-case scenario.

[pipfan]

I might do PWill/Coby/Vuc/Port pick for #3/PG13

I like VJ a lot long term, and PG 13 MIGHT bounce back a bit

Sixers get much needed depth

[Infinity2152]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Somebody will have to explain how the Bulls rate Moses Moody so highly that they'd want him at any price. You've got them trading twice the player in an expiring Coby White for a guys making as much signed for 2 more years. Without 2 FRP's the discussion doesn't even begin.

I'd be ready, willing if able to trade with PHIL. It looks like a win right now move for PHIL right up until Embiid ten George get injured and they decide to tear it down and maybe they get a S&T for Coby Then even #12 looks good to them

The Bulls giving up the PORT pick to move up to #3 is worth saying goodbye to Coby to have whichever kid tied up for 5 years

I agree 2 FRPs or a FRP and a young player is the minimum with Moody. We'd get three young players for an expiring Coby. Not so much rating Moody nearly as highly as Coby, but the additional assets make it at least worth considering. The Warriors might do it, the pressure to add talent is enormous with that many big contracts. Look at the Knicks trade. The Warriors plan to re-sign Coby, it's worth it over the next few years.

Again, prefer to move Coby in a trade for a better player like Bane vs picks, myself. But for #3 in this draft, would definitely do it. End up with either Harper, Edgecombe or Bailey.

[jnrjr79]

I might do PWill/Coby/Vuc/Port pick for #3/PG13

I like VJ a lot long term, and PG 13 MIGHT bounce back a bit

Sixers get much needed depth

Taking on a bad contract like PG to get draft comp is exactly the sort of thing the Bulls should be doing, but I would think Philly sees Coby as too duplicative of Maxey and that #3 is too rich.

[Infinity2152]

I might do PWill/Coby/Vuc/Port pick for #3/PG13

I like VJ a lot long term, and PG 13 MIGHT bounce back a bit

Sixers get much needed depth

Taking on a bad contract like PG to get draft comp is exactly the sort of thing the Bulls should be doing, but I would think Philly sees Coby as too duplicative of Maxey and that #3 is too rich.

Who knows if Philly takes the trade? But it looks pretty fair, have to make the call at least. George's contract should probably be considered negative value. Getting pick 3 minimizes the cap damage done by George's contract. Cost controlled starter means we can still add another big contract to Giddey, George, Matas.

They'd probably want pick 12 too, they could get it.

[sco]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Yeah, I like either deal. GS, after this draft has all of their picks, so 27/29 could be a good pick pairing plus Moody/filler.

Philly, I don't like VJ as much as most, but he projects as a good 2-way guy. I hate needing to attach both picks for #3 though.

[nomorezorro]

philly is not going to move down from 3 to 12 for a package built around coby white and a theoretical first round pick

even if you thought coby was a good enough player to make that trade fair (he's not), it's honestly hard to think of a team that needs him less than the 76ers

[HomoSapien]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Can you post/link the rumor?

I think we have a better shot at getting 3 if we take back Paul George. I think Coby might be close enough from a talent standpoint to get the 3rd pick back from a contender, but they probably pass since there's so much overlap with Maxey and Jared McCain.

Something like Coby, Vuc, and PWill/Huerter for George and 3 works. The selling point there would be that they'd be getting back a lot of depth and talent that can help in a championship run, and they'd also unload George's contract.

[Infinity2152]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Can you post/link the rumor?

I think we have a better shot at getting 3 if we take back Paul George. I think Coby might be close enough from a talent standpoint to get the 3rd pick back from a contender, but they probably pass since there's so much overlap with Maxey and Jared McCain.

Something like Coby, Vuc, and PWill/Huerter for George and 3 works. The selling point there would be that they'd be getting back a lot of depth and talent that can help in a championship run, and they'd also unload George's contract.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/hollywood/nba-trade-rumors-golden-state-warriors-might-chase-36-million-chicago-bulls-star-to-bolster-squad-and-improve-stephen-currys-title-odds/ar-AA1GoEgG

Read closer, could be mostly speculation. The Warriors are expected to chase a scorer, especially after the playoff loss, and Coby makes a lot of sense to me for them. Think he's a better Jordan Poole, and could be an eventual Steph replacement (not the same level )

In the Philly trade, White or one of the other assets could be sent somewhere else for a better fitting player in a three way. Really think we could make that trade happen if we got on it and found out what Philly is looking for. Then we could figure out the third team. Not sure if we could do a three way on draft night, or if they could immediately trade Coby if they got him in a trade.

[sco]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Can you post/link the rumor?

I think we have a better shot at getting 3 if we take back Paul George. I think Coby might be close enough from a talent standpoint to get the 3rd pick back from a contender, but they probably pass since there's so much overlap with Maxey and Jared McCain.

Something like Coby, Vuc, and PWill/Huerter for George and 3 works. The selling point there would be that they'd be getting back a lot of depth and talent that can help in a championship run, and they'd also unload George's contract.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/hollywood/nba-trade-rumors-golden-state-warriors-might-chase-36-million-chicago-bulls-star-to-bolster-squad-and-improve-stephen-currys-title-odds/ar-AA1GoEgG

Read closer, could be mostly speculation. The Warriors are expected to chase a scorer, especially after the playoff loss, and Coby makes a lot of sense to me for them. Think he's a better Jordan Poole, and could be an eventual Steph replacement (not the same level )

In the Philly trade, White or one of the other assets could be sent somewhere else for a better fitting player in a three way. Really think we could make that trade happen if we got on it and found out what Philly is looking for. Then we could figure out the third team.

I read it to and agree with you. Seems more like speculation.

[boozapalooza]

Seems like the trade rumor chatter is picking up around the league for almost everyone…..except the Chicago Bulls…

[sco]

Seems like the trade rumor chatter is picking up around the league for almost everyone…..except the Chicago Bulls…

Other than Coby and maybe Ball, Smith or Huerter, who else is a guy who, as a GM, you would both want and think might be available in trade?

AK, has asked every GM in the league about Vuc, twice...nobody is signing up for that sh*t. Much less giving up a 1st.

I can't imagine anyone asking about Ayo (coming off surgery), Carter, Terry, PWill, Phillips, Collins (who couldn't beat Vuc out for the job).

[Infinity2152]

Can you post/link the rumor?

I think we have a better shot at getting 3 if we take back Paul George. I think Coby might be close enough from a talent standpoint to get the 3rd pick back from a contender, but they probably pass since there's so much overlap with Maxey and Jared McCain.

Something like Coby, Vuc, and PWill/Huerter for George and 3 works. The selling point there would be that they'd be getting back a lot of depth and talent that can help in a championship run, and they'd also unload George's contract.

https://www.msn.com/en-in/entertainment/hollywood/nba-trade-rumors-golden-state-warriors-might-chase-36-million-chicago-bulls-star-to-bolster-squad-and-improve-stephen-currys-title-odds/ar-AA1GoEgG

Read closer, could be mostly speculation. The Warriors are expected to chase a scorer, especially after the playoff loss, and Coby makes a lot of sense to me for them. Think he's a better Jordan Poole, and could be an eventual Steph replacement (not the same level )

In the Philly trade, White or one of the other assets could be sent somewhere else for a better fitting player in a three way. Really think we could make that trade happen if we got on it and found out what Philly is looking for. Then we could figure out the third team.

I read it to and agree with you. Seems more like speculation.

Hey, it's that time of the year! At least I'm not the only one thinking about it, lol! Draft in less than two weeks, about to be a lot of smoke in the air. Looking at the teams in the league:

Teams that HAVE to make big moves this summer: Warriors, Celtics, Lakers, Bucks, Mavericks, Suns, Nets
Teams that should (and might): Bulls, Knicks, Philly, Pistons, Raptors, Magic, Hawks, Kings

After the excitement of the draft is over and Durant is traded, Naz Ried and Myles Turner are both re-signed, Vucevic and Coby White are going to be looking much more attractive as potential upgrades/expiring pieces with that many teams looking to make moves.

[boozapalooza]

Seems like the trade rumor chatter is picking up around the league for almost everyone…..except the Chicago Bulls…

Other than Coby and maybe Ball, Smith or Huerter, who else is a guy who, as a GM, you would both want and think might be available in trade?

AK, has asked every GM in the league about Vuc, twice...nobody is signing up for that sh*t. Much less giving up a 1st.

I can't imagine anyone asking about Ayo (coming off surgery), Carter, Terry, PWill, Phillips, Collins (who couldn't beat Vuc out for the job).

Coby, Ball, Huerter, Collins, Ayo, 12, future picks are all decent trade chips. Its an all time bad FA class so trade activity should be high. Maybe a trade up or down from 12. Its not like we have absolutely nothing to work with.

I’m sure things will pick up and something will get done, but just saying as of now, you hear general rumors around the league on what teams are trying to accomplish. The company line after the trade deadline was AK did a lot of groundwork on trade paths for this summer.

Even on NBA podcasts (Simmons, Lowe, Rusillo, KOC, etc) they discuss NBA offseason and moves teams will make, not a peep about the irrelevant Bulls. The only whisper thats been mentioned was a Vuc/plus package for Sabonis, half jokingly

[Dan Z]

Saw a rumor today that Golden State may take a shot at Coby. Offer would be centered around Mose Moody and a future pick or two, maybe another young player. Warriors need for scoring showed with the Curry injury in the playoffs, he'd be a great fit. Also lot of smoke about Coby may be traded draft night. Thoughts?

Would definitely call Philly about Coby, 12, Portland first for #3. Coby's ready now, a rookie could bust, and they have George and Embid on the roster.
Why Philly might blink: Coby's a 20 pt/gm cheap young guard who's ready now and they have George and Embid. A rookie could take years to be ready, and they get two rookies instead of one.

Lots of smoke around Kom to the Sixers because they want a win now player. I bet they trade back to 6 and get Kon.

No way the Sixers can pay Coby with Embiid Maxey and George there.

The Sixers don't need a scoring guard (Coby) with Grimes (who they can re-sign) and Maxey/McCain on the roster.

They're better off keeping the #3 or trading back for someone like Kon plus assets (even though I wouldn't do that trade).

[Hangtime84]

I might do PWill/Coby/Vuc/Port pick for #3/PG13

I like VJ a lot long term, and PG 13 MIGHT bounce back a bit

Sixers get much needed depth

With you on that. PG had career years with Billy.