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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#241 » by Chapelchilla » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:43 pm

6ers taking Harper at 2 would help us get VJ I think. Unless the spurs keep moving down for Kon or whatever. Kon seems like a Spurs kinda guy.
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#242 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 12, 2025 6:51 pm

Chapelchilla wrote:6ers taking Harper at 2 would help us get VJ I think. Unless the spurs keep moving down for Kon or whatever. Kon seems like a Spurs kinda guy.


yeah, vj makes zero sense next to fox/castle

sixers trade back for - ace, tre, kon or maluach
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#243 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:01 pm

Sixers run Maxey at point plus McCain. I don't see them paying a premium for the same redundancy with Harper the Spurs face.

So Harper creates a logjam at 2 or 3. I believe 4 is the top option if the Spurs want to trade back and extract a large premium. Peterson should've paid it to the Rockets last draft for Castle. Hope Jeff doesn't fall asleep at the wheel and gets aggressive for the potential prize in Harper.
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#244 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:03 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Sixers run Maxey at point plus McCain. I don't see them paying a premium for the same redundancy with Harper the Spurs face.

So Harper creates a logjam at 2 or 3. I believe 4 is the top option if the Spurs want to trade back and extract a large premium. Peterson should've paid it to the Rockets last draft for Castle. Hope Jeff doesn't fall asleep at the wheel and gets aggressive for the potential prize in Harper.


harper/maxey backcourt with mccain off bench is kinda nasty tho
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#245 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:06 pm

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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#246 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:08 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:Sixers run Maxey at point plus McCain. I don't see them paying a premium for the same redundancy with Harper the Spurs face.

So Harper creates a logjam at 2 or 3. I believe 4 is the top option if the Spurs want to trade back and extract a large premium. Peterson should've paid it to the Rockets last draft for Castle. Hope Jeff doesn't fall asleep at the wheel and gets aggressive for the potential prize in Harper.


harper/maxey backcourt with mccain off bench is kinda nasty tho


Sure the Sixers could bid on 2, but the Hornets at 4 have more incentive to pay a higher premium. No way should we dare the Spurs to trade with the Sixers though. Multiple teams are bidding on 2. If we love him we have to pony up.

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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#247 » by JMAC3 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:09 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Sixers run Maxey at point plus McCain. I don't see them paying a premium for the same redundancy with Harper the Spurs face.

So Harper creates a logjam at 2 or 3. I believe 4 is the top option if the Spurs want to trade back and extract a large premium. Peterson should've paid it to the Rockets last draft for Castle. Hope Jeff doesn't fall asleep at the wheel and gets aggressive for the potential prize in Harper.


Would be great if we have some Serbian Jew Double Bluff going on where Philly wants Ace Bailey the whole time.

What if Spurs are going to take Bailey #2, or trade down. Seems like they aren't sold on Harper.
So Philly says we will move up one spot- which then Spurs are like great we can still get Bailey #3.
But Philly knew they were taking Bailey the whole time and they secretly want Bailey and move up to get him at #2 to prevent Spurs taking him #2
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#248 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:18 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:Sixers run Maxey at point plus McCain. I don't see them paying a premium for the same redundancy with Harper the Spurs face.

So Harper creates a logjam at 2 or 3. I believe 4 is the top option if the Spurs want to trade back and extract a large premium. Peterson should've paid it to the Rockets last draft for Castle. Hope Jeff doesn't fall asleep at the wheel and gets aggressive for the potential prize in Harper.


Would be great if we have some Serbian Jew Double Bluff going on where Philly wants Ace Bailey the whole time.

What if Spurs are going to take Bailey #2, or trade down. Seems like they aren't sold on Harper.
So Philly says we will move up one spot- which then Spurs are like great we can still get Bailey #3.
But Philly knew they were taking Bailey the whole time and they secretly want Bailey and move up to get him at #2 to prevent Spurs taking him #2


feels like the mike miller draft. anyone remember that drama?

edit: Maybe I'm misremembering. I just remember something from that draft night where there was like a trade out of spite where one team traded up in front of the other just to draft a player to spite them. I feel like Mike Miller was involved but I can't really find anything on the Internet. Does anyone have a memory of that night? Side note, worst draft in my lifetime
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#249 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 12, 2025 7:37 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:Sixers run Maxey at point plus McCain. I don't see them paying a premium for the same redundancy with Harper the Spurs face.

So Harper creates a logjam at 2 or 3. I believe 4 is the top option if the Spurs want to trade back and extract a large premium. Peterson should've paid it to the Rockets last draft for Castle. Hope Jeff doesn't fall asleep at the wheel and gets aggressive for the potential prize in Harper.


Would be great if we have some Serbian Jew Double Bluff going on where Philly wants Ace Bailey the whole time.

What if Spurs are going to take Bailey #2, or trade down. Seems like they aren't sold on Harper.
So Philly says we will move up one spot- which then Spurs are like great we can still get Bailey #3.
But Philly knew they were taking Bailey the whole time and they secretly want Bailey and move up to get him at #2 to prevent Spurs taking him #2


Spurs would be trading the draft rights to the player they select 2 on the condition the call from the Sixers is for someone other than Ace if that's the Spurs target.
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#250 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:10 pm

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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#251 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:14 pm

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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#252 » by amcoolio » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:24 pm

Whatever the Sixers can trade the Spurs, we can beat.
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#253 » by TheKingofSting » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:56 pm

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Braggins wrote:Interesting, I do really like the idea of Harper with Maxey.

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Assuming the Sixers would have to give up McCain (and obviously 3). Harper is a prize.


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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#254 » by wilson115 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 11:30 pm

Where I am:

1. Trade up to #2 for Harper. If he's really the prospect he's made out to be, well, for once we've got the ammo, worse ways to waste it.
2. Pick whoever falls to #4 between VJ and Ace.
3. Trade down if someone dangles an actually useful player (see: Jones, Herb) to go with the pick.
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#255 » by Diop » Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:24 am

fatlever wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Sixers run Maxey at point plus McCain. I don't see them paying a premium for the same redundancy with Harper the Spurs face.

So Harper creates a logjam at 2 or 3. I believe 4 is the top option if the Spurs want to trade back and extract a large premium. Peterson should've paid it to the Rockets last draft for Castle. Hope Jeff doesn't fall asleep at the wheel and gets aggressive for the potential prize in Harper.


Would be great if we have some Serbian Jew Double Bluff going on where Philly wants Ace Bailey the whole time.

What if Spurs are going to take Bailey #2, or trade down. Seems like they aren't sold on Harper.
So Philly says we will move up one spot- which then Spurs are like great we can still get Bailey #3.
But Philly knew they were taking Bailey the whole time and they secretly want Bailey and move up to get him at #2 to prevent Spurs taking him #2


feels like the mike miller draft. anyone remember that drama?

edit: Maybe I'm misremembering. I just remember something from that draft night where there was like a trade out of spite where one team traded up in front of the other just to draft a player to spite them. I feel like Mike Miller was involved but I can't really find anything on the Internet. Does anyone have a memory of that night? Side note, worst draft in my lifetime

as soon as I read your post I thought of Darius Miles. that's the 2000 draft as well but I can't find any bloody articles about it either.
that was before i was a Charlotte fan or read Realgm, so it can't be a stupid coincidence surely.
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#256 » by Diop » Fri Jun 13, 2025 12:26 am

wilson115 wrote:Where I am:

1. Trade up to #2 for Harper. If he's really the prospect he's made out to be, well, for once we've got the ammo, worse ways to waste it.
2. Pick whoever falls to #4 between VJ and Ace.
3. Trade down if someone dangles an actually useful player (see: Jones, Herb) to go with the pick.

same, if Harper is available Charlotte need to try. Lets not mess about here.
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#257 » by EmpireFalls » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:13 am

Brandon Miller for #2 straight up.

Who says no?
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Post#258 » by GoBobs » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:41 am

I will be happy if we come away with Tre or Kon. Give me shooting and ft shooting.

VJ is an undersized 2 and I don't trust his 3pt shooting.

Ace is to risky.

I think Ace is the pick though. I can just see Clifford in the draft room going, "he has good size." Only real question is do the spurs screw it up before we have a chance.

Imagine if the draft goes
1. Flagg
2. Ace
3. VJ

but more than likely, we get Ace, or VJ
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#259 » by Bassman » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:00 am

EmpireFalls wrote:Brandon Miller for #2 straight up.

Who says no?


Me, cause you can’t give up a promising player and recent #2 pick for another promising but unproven player. Better to trade #4 and a future first, some seconds, whatever is reasonably fair. Spurs don’t trade back to 4 unless they are seriously considering Kon or Maluach. No guarantee Ace is there, nor VJ. I REALLY HOPE THEY LOVE ONE OR BOTH OF THOSE GUYS! Either player gives them a dynamic they use to augment their existing core.
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Re: 2025 General Draft Discussion 2 

Post#260 » by fatlever » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:59 am

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jon g discusses his big board

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ace
vj
kon

- Great comment about Ace. Says teams ask about him more than any other player. Said Scouts and gm's Don't want to draft him but also don't want to be the team that passes on him if he pans out. They mentioned something about him having small hands which I had not heard. Also mentioned that apparently he played some point guard in high school, but did follow that up with he's not good at dribbling or passing, yet.
- Talks a lot about how impressive vj Is as a person. Very serious very mature. Has wowed teams with his interviews. Nate wasn't quite as high on him as jon.
- Talks a lot about the misconceptions of kon, Thinks he will be at worst an average defender eventually, But likely slightly above average. Said the fact that he's strong, incredibly smart defender who always knows where to be positionally, great team defender, and hustles 100% of the time is the reason he will be OK defensively. Mentions them off ball defense is every been a so important as on ball defense. Nate asks him if he feels the same way about Tre is a defender and John kind of laughed. They compared his ability to shoot you klay
- Nate is really high on fears but they didn't really get into it yet, im 75% of the way through
- jon is very high on maluach as well. Mentioned the leap that he's made in the past year is tremendous.

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