2025 NBA Draft Discussion Part 9

[Dalek]

RR high on Traore. Pipedream he goes in the lotto. I soured.

My sneaky scenario that I really could envision for Toronto, draft Beringer at 9 and Traore a little later in the draft for a pick from 14-17 range. These two train together and are with the same agency and are both French. I really like Beringer but the English is a question for me.

I haven't seen any English interviews. Traore is fine and really a perfect PG for him. Those two will have chemistry together and be a perfect draft for Toronto.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Ace Bailey weighed in less than Gradey did at the combine. Ace needs to really bulk up.

He's got huge legs, though. I think he's the opposite of Gradey where he's functionally very strong. Gradey has a solid frame but no core strength and gets pushed around too easily. That doesn't happen with Ace. With Bailey it's all between the ears. If you think he can grow, he's going to be an excellent pick. If you think there's something fundamentally off he's gonna be the Cam Reddish of this draft.

[WuTang_CMB]

The intrigue surrounding the Sixers' decision with the No. 3 pick only continues to grow.

We first reported how Philadelphia brought Baylor freshman V.J. Edgecombe for a private workout last week. By day's end we reported that the Sixers had also scheduled Rutgers forward Ace Bailey for a visit sometime next week.

There are two other players in the mix for Philadelphia's selection at No. 3, according to one person with knowledge of the Sixers' thinking. Who they exactly are … that is a code this whole league is trying to crack.

There's such an interesting balance that Sixers officials have to be considering, weighing the highest-upside prospects at the top of this class against how these rookies could feasibly fit into a championship-contending team right away. Not a simple assignment.

Additionally, for all the conversation about the Sixers looking to move down — which is legitimately in play — I think we also need to be ready for Philadelphia just sticking at No. 3 and making that selection. Daryl Morey's old team found itself in a similar scenario last June, when Houston was on the clock with the No. 3 pick. The Rockets, after considerable pre-draft speculation, ultimately held firm and selected Reed Sheppard with no sufficiently appetizing trade offer to sway them.

[Psubs]

How do posters feel about sending the #9 pick to OKC for 15 & 24 or for Topic & 24.

I'd rather go for ATL's 13/22. But I don't think they will do anything until they're on the clock so they can see what options are available.

Ya, see if teams take CMB, Demin, Jakucionus, Essengue, Traore, Coward in the top 10. I could see teams reaching a bit.

Isn't Traore just as good and big as Fears with a better jumper and better playmaking? Traore is a PG while Fears is an undersized SG. Is Fears that much better than Jordan Poole or Anfernee Simons, who both have put up over 20ppg? You'll have to pay them too and are they really helping much with winning?

Nabbing Carter Bryant at #13 would be so amazing.

[WuTang_CMB]

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[TNRaps4life]

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[WuTang_CMB]

my top 25 big board as of today

1. Cooper
2. Harper
3. Fears
4. Tre
5. Queen
6. VJ
7. Kon
8. Carter
9. Ace
10. Kasp
11. Khaman
12. CMB
13. Asa
14. Jase
15. Noa
16. Sorber
17. Coward
18. Beringer
19. Theiro
20. Nique
21. Fleming
22. Wolf
23. Yang
24. Kalkbrenner
25. Demin

[DreamTeam09]

top 25 big board as of today

1. Cooper
2. Harper
3. Fears
4. Tre
5. Queen
6. VJ
7. Kon
8. Carter
9. Ace
10. Kasp
11. Khaman
12. CMB
13. Asa
14. Jase
15. Noa
16. Sorber
17. Coward
18. Beringer
19. Theiro
20. Nique
21. Fleming
22. Wolf
23. Yang
24. Kalkbrenner
25. Demin

I mean Demin did a lot more than a lot of those guys on your list. He was brought in as a franchise guy for his college program as a freshman, guys like Asa,Therio,Yang, Kalkbrenner, Coward, Beringer weren't the guy for wherever they were at, or wasn't in a lead role like Demin. How much credence do you give to that?

[WuTang_CMB]

top 25 big board as of today

1. Cooper
2. Harper
3. Fears
4. Tre
5. Queen
6. VJ
7. Kon
8. Carter
9. Ace
10. Kasp
11. Khaman
12. CMB
13. Asa
14. Jase
15. Noa
16. Sorber
17. Coward
18. Beringer
19. Theiro
20. Nique
21. Fleming
22. Wolf
23. Yang
24. Kalkbrenner
25. Demin

I mean Demin did a lot more than a lot of those guys on your list. He was brought in as a franchise guy for his college program as a freshman, guys like Asa,Therio,Yang, Kalkbrenner, Coward, Beringer weren't the guy for wherever they were at, or wasn't in a lead role like Demin. How much credence do you give to that?

That's only a portion of it. It's about translating to the next level. He's a project and going to struggle early on. Can't get into the lane to make a play or shoot the basketball. He's novice right now. Only thing he has is size and passing ability.

[Clutch0z24]

My personal top players who are possible to be there at 9.

1.Tre
2.Fears
3.Queen
4.Kon
5.Mal

Off board picks
Jase Richardson
Kasp
CMB (Will trust Masai if he picks him)

[NotMyKawhi]

top 25 big board as of today

1. Cooper
2. Harper
3. Fears
4. Tre
5. Queen
6. VJ
7. Kon
8. Carter
9. Ace
10. Kasp
11. Khaman
12. CMB
13. Asa
14. Jase
15. Noa
16. Sorber
17. Coward
18. Beringer
19. Theiro
20. Nique
21. Fleming
22. Wolf
23. Yang
24. Kalkbrenner
25. Demin

I mean Demin did a lot more than a lot of those guys on your list. He was brought in as a franchise guy for his college program as a freshman, guys like Asa,Therio,Yang, Kalkbrenner, Coward, Beringer weren't the guy for wherever they were at, or wasn't in a lead role like Demin. How much credence do you give to that?

That's only a portion of it. It's about translating to the next level. He's a project and going to struggle early on. Can't get into the lane to make a play or shoot the basketball. He's novice right now. Only thing he has is size and passing ability.

Think that's a wrong read. Hes more off and on. Sometimes hes great other times he does nothing.

[Pointgod]

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Did Trey Murphy die or something? This makes zero sense.

[Lord_Zedd]

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Did Trey Murphy die or something? This makes zero sense.

Joe Dumars presence already being felt with the Pelicans.

[WuTang_CMB]

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Did Trey Murphy die or something? This makes zero sense.

Why would it make zero sense? Play Murphy at shooting guard and Ace at small forward. I don't mind New Orleans moving up for a player they like and I don't think there is anyone in the 3-5 range who isn't a reasonable fit.

[Dalek]

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Did Trey Murphy die or something? This makes zero sense.

Why would it make zero sense? Play Murphy at shooting guard and Ace at small forward. I don't mind New Orleans moving up for a player they like and I don't think there is anyone in the 3-5 range who isn't a reasonable fit.

From what I understand there could be a scenario where Herb Jones gets traded to Philly for pick 3 and NO's pick and that relieves some of the positional overlap.

Herb is a play-now player which is better for Philly, plus they don't have to pay pick 3 money. It would be a Morey type of move.

[ciueli]

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Let me tell you a funny story about the Dunc'd On podcast. It's after the 2016 draft and I'm listening to his post-mortem draft pod with his grade of every pick. It gets to the Raptors at 9 and he absolutely savages Masai for not using the 27th pick to trade up one spot and grab Marquese Chriss, he said it was probably going to be one of the last chances for a while for us to get a top 10 pick and in an 8 player draft Masai should have consolidated the picks to get a superior prospect.

Yeah, we all know how well that take aged.

[babyjax13]

Did Trey Murphy die or something? This makes zero sense.

Why would it make zero sense? Play Murphy at shooting guard and Ace at small forward. I don't mind New Orleans moving up for a player they like and I don't think there is anyone in the 3-5 range who isn't a reasonable fit.

From what I understand there could be a scenario where Herb Jones gets traded to Philly for pick 3 and NO's pick and that relieves some of the positional overlap.

Herb is a play-now player which is better for Philly, plus they don't have to pay pick 3 money. It would be a Morey type of move.

That is my read on it, too.

[Dalek]

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The more I watch CMB the more I see a lot of OG in him. That big bulky frame and defensive event creation. That is so hard to pass up.

If they think the shot is fixable he is really hard to pass-up because he can be productive now.

I really think he is ideal for win-now teams and someone like OKC will get him in teens.

For Toronto, Masai will be very tempted but will it just be history repeating itself, getting another talented defense first player with limited outside shooting and scoring capability?

I do think what gets lost in CMB is that he took a huge step forward over two years. He was on a bad team and produced extremely well so maybe he ends up like a Paul Millsap.

[Brinbe]

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Privated now but Barlowe another one saying he's heard the Raps really like Maluach and he won't get past us at 9