Very reasonable and well said
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Very reasonable and well said
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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3toheadmelo wrote:
Marc stein said league executives around the league are confused on why we fired Thibs with no plan. It’s a terrible look, whether people want to admit it or not.
They never planned for this. I don’t think they expected to be in this position that’s why they are doing what they are doing
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These media guys have to have a new hot take every day that goes by. They're not all going to say, let's wait and see what Rose does, be patient. They have to have a take. But it's a process that will take weeks. Who care what Windy and Greeny say
There goes my hero. Watch him as he goes.
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3toheadmelo wrote:I can probably talk myself into Taylor Jenkins. But please no Mike brown.
Not enthusiastic about either but the case for Brown is:
-Mike Brown's offensive system with the Sacramento Kings incorporated elements of both the Princeton offense and high pick-and-roll, with an emphasis on spacing, ball reversals, paint touches, and playing in the five-out motion.
-Mike Brown won 3 championships as an assistant under Steve Kerr in six years and 1 as an assistant with the Spurs
-Mike Brown took the Cavs to Finals as a head coach and has a winning postseason record
All of those things make him a decent sell as a successor to Thibs
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Knicksfan1992 wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:
Yeah I literally couldn't give a fuq what any of these guys think about from a strategy perspective.
I'm sure Leon feels the same way
A large number of posts about something still doesn't make it more likely to happen. Yes, sometimes it has more of a nuisance value to us while of course Leon has no thoughts about what goes on here.
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GONYK wrote:Jeff Van Gully wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:We care if it results in getting a significant downgrade from Thibsontknow:
come on. you know that's not what he's talking about.
he's talking bout what the search strategy looks like. you trying to take it somewhere else.
Yea, how we arrive at the new coach is irrelevant.
Checking in with all the good coaches doesn't seem like a bad strategy to find a good coach.
And maybe you learn a thing or two when having these conversations.

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WaltFrazier wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:
These media guys have to have a new hot take every day that goes by. They're not all going to say, let's wait and see what Rose does, be patient. They have to have a take. But it's a process that will take weeks. Who care what Windy and Greeny say
I don't know why due diligence is a problem. Anyone with a brain watching the Knicks knew it was time for a change. The plan was to remove Thibs and built a pool of candidates. This narrative is pathetic.
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Wildcat wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:
These media guys have to have a new hot take every day that goes by. They're not all going to say, let's wait and see what Rose does, be patient. They have to have a take. But it's a process that will take weeks. Who care what Windy and Greeny say
I don't know why due diligence is a problem. Anyone with a brain watching the Knicks knew it was time for a change. The plan was to remove Thibs and built a pool of candidates. This narrative is pathetic.
Thibs a little better coach than you give him credit for, They could have done due diligence before they fired him—firing him 3 days into the offseason was just flat out stupid
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It's not that Leon is telling everyone what they are doing, it's FO people from other teams who are doing the leaking and then they also add in all the negative stuff to make it seem like the Knicks are doing something wrong.
It the business world poaching talent from other companies is seen as what you need to do to upgrade. In the social world if you only ask out people who are single you get a lesser quality of pool because the best are usually taken.
Again, it's been repeated by those who understand the dynamics at play here, no matter what the Knicks did they'd be criticized. Keep Thibs? Wrong choice. Fire Thibs? Wrong decision. Hire someone right away? Too soon. Go through process? They had no plan.
It's absolutely comical that everything gets filtered through an anti-Knicks bias and then the fans seem to cherry pick the voices that echo their agenda. It's been this way the whole time with Rose, but under his purview the team has gone from laughingstock to respectable contender.
Nothing is ever good enough when it comes to the Knicks, if they ever win a title it won't be good enough either. They'll find a way to criticize it and you know it would be absolutely what would happen. Chucky cheeze though never winning a ring himself would deride it in some way.
It the business world poaching talent from other companies is seen as what you need to do to upgrade. In the social world if you only ask out people who are single you get a lesser quality of pool because the best are usually taken.
Again, it's been repeated by those who understand the dynamics at play here, no matter what the Knicks did they'd be criticized. Keep Thibs? Wrong choice. Fire Thibs? Wrong decision. Hire someone right away? Too soon. Go through process? They had no plan.
It's absolutely comical that everything gets filtered through an anti-Knicks bias and then the fans seem to cherry pick the voices that echo their agenda. It's been this way the whole time with Rose, but under his purview the team has gone from laughingstock to respectable contender.
Nothing is ever good enough when it comes to the Knicks, if they ever win a title it won't be good enough either. They'll find a way to criticize it and you know it would be absolutely what would happen. Chucky cheeze though never winning a ring himself would deride it in some way.
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
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NYKat wrote:Wildcat wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:These media guys have to have a new hot take every day that goes by. They're not all going to say, let's wait and see what Rose does, be patient. They have to have a take. But it's a process that will take weeks. Who care what Windy and Greeny say
I don't know why due diligence is a problem. Anyone with a brain watching the Knicks knew it was time for a change. The plan was to remove Thibs and built a pool of candidates. This narrative is pathetic.
Thibs a little better coach than you give him credit for, They could have done due diligence before they fired him—firing him 3 days into the offseason was just flat out stupid
The players coming into meetings and wanting him gone is the catalyst for him being fired.
If they had waited, people would be bitching about why didn't we do it sooner because there's not much time left before the season. The Knicks are damned if they do, and damned if they don't. Because so many people tied their entire credibility to Thibs being our coach and him going nowhere, it needs to be spun as the wrong choice to fire him without having a cloned Red Auerbach waiting to take the job.
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Capn'O wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Capn'O wrote:Just based on Mikes, Mike Brown is like 6th on my list of potential candidates.
Mike Bud
Mike Woodson
Mike Malone
Mike Miller
Mike D'Antoni
Bruh I just read this… we might be cookedBrown profiles as an interesting option, as he has a close relationship with Knicks executive vice president William Wesley (aka “Worldwide Wes”) that dates back to the mid-2000s when Brown was coaching LeBron James’ Cleveland Cavaliers (Wesley, at that time, was a league-wide power broker and one of James’ primary confidantes).
I'm not gonna panic about a hire until it's a hire.
This is where im at
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Guano wrote:Capn'O wrote:3toheadmelo wrote:Bruh I just read this… we might be cooked
I'm not gonna panic about a hire until it's a hire.
This is where im at
I endorse your decision to fire the last avi and hire this upgrade.
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
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WaltFrazier wrote:
Very reasonable and well said
Also when you go to the guys under contract first you are checking how happy the marriage is and letting that seed percolate. Then maybe something starts brewing behind the scenes while you hit the untaken coaches later. We know the Kidd seed is likely still percolating right now , who knows if any of the others are...
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we've gone from ball knowers to FO hiring practice knowers.
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KnixinSix wrote:WaltFrazier wrote:
Very reasonable and well said
Also when you go to the guys under contract first you are checking how happy the marriage is and letting that seed percolate. Then maybe something starts brewing behind the scenes while you hit the untaken coaches later. We know the Kidd seed is likely still percolating right now , who knows if any of the others are...
Exactly. Plant the seed for Spo and Kerr.... maybe one of them asks for a change of scenery even after their teams deny us an interview.
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NYKinMIA wrote:we've gone from ball knowers to FO hiring practice knowers.
never change RealGM. I love this place
Well, we are RealGmers after all.... 'real' GMers.

If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
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Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.

Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
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GONYK wrote:The KnicksFix wrote:New day
Time to get rejected by another 5
Bring that total up to a third of the coaches in the league
Cmon Knicks I know we can do it
This post adds nothing to the discourse
For me, I want Johnnie Bryant so the more rejections the better


Want no parts of any current coach unless they’re Udoka, Spo or Carlisle
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NYKinMIA wrote:we've gone from ball knowers to FO hiring practice knowers.
never change RealGM. I love this place
I still maintain it’s all a smokescreen to get Bryant
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BKlutch wrote:GONYK wrote:The KnicksFix wrote:New day
Time to get rejected by another 5
Bring that total up to a third of the coaches in the league
Cmon Knicks I know we can do it
This post adds nothing to the discourse
5 years ago, this would have been considered optimistic
Every day I'm thankful we're no longer in that dark place.
Right ? Now we are past “culture setting” coach to “championship expectation” coach
And that guy for me is Johnnie Bryant
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stuporman wrote:It's not that Leon is telling everyone what they are doing, it's FO people from other teams who are doing the leaking and then they also add in all the negative stuff to make it seem like the Knicks are doing something wrong.
It the business world poaching talent from other companies is seen as what you need to do to upgrade. In the social world if you only ask out people who are single you get a lesser quality of pool because the best are usually taken.
Again, it's been repeated by those who understand the dynamics at play here, no matter what the Knicks did they'd be criticized. Keep Thibs? Wrong choice. Fire Thibs? Wrong decision. Hire someone right away? Too soon. Go through process? They had no plan.
It's absolutely comical that everything gets filtered through an anti-Knicks bias and then the fans seem to cherry pick the voices that echo their agenda. It's been this way the whole time with Rose, but under his purview the team has gone from laughingstock to respectable contender.
Nothing is ever good enough when it comes to the Knicks, if they ever win a title it won't be good enough either. They'll find a way to criticize it and you know it would be absolutely what would happen. Chucky cheeze though never winning a ring himself would deride it in some way.
That’s what I’m saying
Why wouldn’t they ask? They have nothing to lose
You never know if Spo or Kerr or any coach wants out
Then they can begin their actual coaching search
The more the better