It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers

[Nuntius]

Do we need a Giannis sticky thread?

The OP received great feedback to this very post on the "trades and transactions" board...but apparently didn't like that feedback!

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What feedback?

I didn't post anything in that thread.

No, not you. Jkiddy's post that you can see at the top this page (post #141) was initially it's own thread before it was merged into yours. This is the OP being referred here.

[ItsDanger]

It's in the best interest of both parties that Giannis is traded. But maybe he wants to stay with same franchise his entire career.

[davidv2001]

The Milwaukee Bucks will never be a free agent destination. Whether you think they should blow it up because they lack assets to improve next season, the reality is the odds of them getting a player of Giannis’ caliber again in the near future are very low.

Superstars are the hardest thing to find or acquire in the NBA, and the Bucks have one of the three best players in the world. Unless Giannis asks out, it makes perfect sense that a small market team would never trade him during his prime.

[Woodsanity]

All these people just want Giannis on their team for pennies on the dollar.

[JKiddy]

I know I saw some fans offer Mitchell Robinson plus Josh Hart and a 1st for him!!

[SkyBill40]

There's some WILD takes in here for sure. Wowza.

I don't think MIL is going to get what they want in a trade as it would require an equal level footing of superstar for superstar; those don't happen often and rarely do you get the pieces to fit. I don't see Giannis requesting a trade but I do see him squeezing the front office for better complementary players to increase their chances of success. If they choose to jettison him for picks and mid tier players, they'll be making a franchise altering setback that they may never recover from.

[ShootersShoot]

MIL has a GET OUT OF JAIL CARD which they can use now and restart the franchise.

He has enough value they can likely pawn off Dame at the same time.

They have zero chance of competing in 2026 and it looks like the same will be said for 2027 UNLESS they can super tank those seasons with their own picks. There is a chance they can do that. But, as of now their future is bleaker than PHX.

If they do not trade Giannis at his peak now and let it ride and no longer contend for the next decade, would they have fumbled the bag to keep Giannis there and not compete after decimating their entire player and draft asset pool?

I want honest opinions as I know it is much easier to see the writing on the wall as an outsider. The emotional value of keeping Giannis is huge. But, the ability to win a title from 2025-2035/40 might also have some value to fans as well with a new competitive roster.

I would like to see the logistics of milwaukee trading both giannis and dame in the same trade.

[Cavsfansince84]

Trading the best or 2nd greatest franchise player of their history for a bunch of draft picks/young players is not going to make their fanbase happy at all. He's only 30 or 31. So ya it might make some sense in terms of current title window vs hypothetical future window but its not a great way to get people to renew season tickets and stuff like that. As of now and the next 3-4 years just having Giannis basically means a top 4 seed and semi contender status. You don't throw that away over draft capital that can or cannot pan out 5-10 years from now. I think if they trade him they'd have to get at least someone like Booker in return plus quite a bit more.

[Curmudgeon]

There's really nothing the Bucks can do except keep Giannis-- unless he is adamant about wanting out. It's sad for Giannis, but he must have been consulted on the Lillard trade and the Rivers hiring-- both disasters-- so he bears some responsibility for his fate.

[Bernman]

All these people just want Giannis on their team for pennies on the dollar.

This guy went on a diatribe about how stupid everyone else is, including the Bucks if they don't trade him. And this was his genius trade proposal to save the Bucks franchise.

Just trade Giannis to Houston and get some Brooks, Jabari, Sheppard,picks back, at least you will have some future. Something. Right now it's less than nothing. It's empty space and 5-7 years until you can even start rebuild. Basically looking toward decade of existence in vacuum.

[JKiddy]

I think the fans and ownership will likely be happier if he stays for the next 2-3 years. But, once they realize they can't win a playoff series anymore unless they hit massive on a trade or pick it will then bring everyone to the table.

I just hope for their sake they trade Giannis while he still has super strong value.

They might have asked him to just give them until the trade deadline this season to prove to him they will compete in 2027/28 and that this season is now a throw away since Dame is out (and was not working out for them previously anyway).

[Bernman]

Look I agree they shouldn't move him if he wants to stay but he clearly doesn't want to stay and the Bucks after the Dame injury are not going to be very good next season.

Listen, guys, he clearly doesn't want to stay. He only met w/ the Bucks during the combine & reaffirmed he was happy w/ no trade request (per Jim O of the Milwaukee Journal), he's liking tweets saying he's staying, saying he wants to win a championship w/ the Bucks & mocked Shams.

But Shams produced vague language like "open-mindedness" from "league sources" (rival execs), on a network that's been wrong for 6 yrs on this, so that supersedes concrete reports & Giannis' own actions. How some are so easily manipulated by corporate media is scary.

[JKiddy]

I truly think it is shocking but he does want to stay.

Most people outside of MIL cannot fathom the poor decision based on winning or money. But, I think he is being loyal now to a fault. It will not be believable until mid season for most. But, I think he might actually stay now.

[phanman]

Look I agree they shouldn't move him if he wants to stay but he clearly doesn't want to stay and the Bucks after the Dame injury are not going to be very good next season.

Listen, guys, he clearly doesn't want to stay. He only met w/ the Bucks during the combine & reaffirmed he was happy w/ no trade request (per Jim O of the Milwaukee Journal), he's liking tweets saying he's staying, saying he wants to win a championship w/ the Bucks & mocked Shams.

But Shams produced vague language like "open-mindedness" from "league sources" (rival execs), on a network that's been wrong for 6 yrs on this, so that supersedes concrete reports & Giannis' own actions. How some are so easily manipulated by corporate media is scary.

Meh, chalk it up to off season chatter. The NBA is just a lot more interesting when people think superstars want out.

What I don't get is how fans don't see the benefit of Milwaukee (both fans and organization) have in keeping Giannis even if they won't be contenders next season and have an uphill battle to get back. At the end of the day, you still have Giannis playing for your organization and he alone provides a huge boost both on and off the court. They'll still be in contention to make the playoffs as long as he is there and I'd rather watch that than go into a rebuild without your own draft picks.

[RRyder823]

Look I agree they shouldn't move him if he wants to stay but he clearly doesn't want to stay and the Bucks after the Dame injury are not going to be very good next season.

Listen, guys, he clearly doesn't want to stay. He only met w/ the Bucks during the combine & reaffirmed he was happy w/ no trade request (per Jim O of the Milwaukee Journal), he's liking tweets saying he's staying, saying he wants to win a championship w/ the Bucks & mocked Shams.

But Shams produced vague language like "open-mindedness" from "league sources" (rival execs), on a network that's been wrong for 6 yrs on this, so that supersedes concrete reports & Giannis' own actions. How some are so easily manipulated by corporate media is scary.

Meh, chalk it up to off season chatter. The NBA is just a lot more interesting when people think superstars want out.

What I don't get is how fans don't see the benefit of Milwaukee (both fans and organization) have in keeping Giannis even if they won't be contenders next season and have an uphill battle to get back. At the end of the day, you still have Giannis playing for your organization and he alone provides a huge boost both on and off the court. They'll still be in contention to make the playoffs as long as he is there and I'd rather watch that than go into a rebuild without your own draft picks.

The fact that you paired those sentences together when the **** NBA finals is going on with a severe underdog currently up 2-1 is a HUGE red flag for the league

Outside of that the rest of your post is spot on



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[LarsV8]

Maybe he wants one of those crazy extensions.

Better to lock that up before leaving, although that will make it worse off for all other stakeholders.

[phanman]

Listen, guys, he clearly doesn't want to stay. He only met w/ the Bucks during the combine & reaffirmed he was happy w/ no trade request (per Jim O of the Milwaukee Journal), he's liking tweets saying he's staying, saying he wants to win a championship w/ the Bucks & mocked Shams.

But Shams produced vague language like "open-mindedness" from "league sources" (rival execs), on a network that's been wrong for 6 yrs on this, so that supersedes concrete reports & Giannis' own actions. How some are so easily manipulated by corporate media is scary.

Meh, chalk it up to off season chatter. The NBA is just a lot more interesting when people think superstars want out.

What I don't get is how fans don't see the benefit of Milwaukee (both fans and organization) have in keeping Giannis even if they won't be contenders next season and have an uphill battle to get back. At the end of the day, you still have Giannis playing for your organization and he alone provides a huge boost both on and off the court. They'll still be in contention to make the playoffs as long as he is there and I'd rather watch that than go into a rebuild without your own draft picks.

The fact that you paired those sentences together when the **** NBA finals is going on with a severe underdog currently up 2-1 is a HUGE red flag for the league

Outside of that the rest of your post is spot on

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It's still the offseason for 28 other teams.. I'm not saying I agree with the sentiment but it is what it is. Let's face it, the majority of NBA fans are casuals and an Indiana//OKC finals series has to be one of the worse possible outcomes no matter how great game 1 and 3 were.

[Curmudgeon]

He has roots in Milwaukee, a wife and 4 kids, etc. Who wants to uproot his family unnecessarily? Maybe his family is more important than another championship.

[TheGOATWill]

This isn't a difficult decision to me. Giannis has been a dream come true for them. He's still has prime left. He still sells tickets and merch. And it's time to move him. It's not their fault. No one could have predicted the Dame injury. Giannis is 30 years old with a game tied to his physical traits more than scheme or playmaking. His value will never be higher than is right now. They can not trot him out next season for the purpose of fielding a 5 or 6 seed team and risk him tearing up his knee or worse. Building a winner in a small market is hard. Horst has to hold his nose and recoup assets. Go out to everybody with picks and kids and take the temperature. If OKC wins or loses the finals, get them on the phone the following morning. It won't be popular. You have to do what you have to do sometimes or you miss your chance.

[GiannisAnte34]

This isn't a difficult decision to me. Giannis has been a dream come true for them. He's still has prime left. He still sells tickets and merch. And it's time to move him. It's not their fault. No one could have predicted the Dame injury. Giannis is 30 years old with a game tied to his physical traits more than scheme or playmaking. His value will never be higher than is right now. They can not trot him out next season for the purpose of fielding a 5 or 6 seed team and risk him tearing up his knee or worse. Building a winner in a small market is hard. Horst has to hold his nose and recoup assets. Go out to everybody with picks and kids and take the temperature. If OKC wins or loses the finals, get them on the phone the following morning. It won't be popular. You have to do what you have to do sometimes or you miss your chance.

The NBA is primarily a business. Moving someone like Giannis for “picks and kids” if he wants to stay is suicide for merch and tickets. Keeping him on the team virtually guarantees at least 2 if not more home playoff games every year for probably 5 seasons at least. This isn’t LA or New York where seats will get filled no matter what. Milwaukee fans are loyal but there are also a lot of bandwagoners that would disappear after a Giannis for rebuild trade