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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1881 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:01 pm

ctorres wrote:Johnnie Bryant is only a year younger than Taylor Jenkins, and started his NBA career only one season later than Jenkins

If the Knicks are targeting Jenkins, it makes me feel like Bryant will not be the guy

Bryant worked four seasons with the Knicks not just under Thibs, but under Rose's regime. Shouldn't that be more valuable than a completely outside hire like Jenkins?

Does Bryant's four years of experience working for the Knicks make him less valuable than Taylor Jenkins who has no ties to the Knicks what so ever?

Something just feels off to me about Taylor Jenkins being a target over Johnnie Bryant.


we still don't know anything about who's a target over who, to be fair.

but assuming jenkins is higher on the list, wouldn't 6 years of HC experience largely held in high regard also matter?
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1882 » by nykballa2k4 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:02 pm

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insane that he's being asked about that while actively competing in the finals after putting the knicks down.


Did we ask for permission to talk to Carlisle yet?
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1883 » by Enzo954 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:02 pm

This place is so miserable sometimes. Let the FO do their thing and leave no stones unturned in their search. They're exploring all avenues before making a decision and you guys are upset because the media is fear mongering. Knicks for clicks. The more they strike panic into the general public the more hits and money they make. Just relax and trust the process.
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1884 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:03 pm

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June 12, 5:10 p.m.
Former Memphis Grizzlies head coach Taylor Jenkins remains squarely on the Knicks' radar as they continue their search for a new head coach, per people familiar with the matter, according to SNY NBA Insider Ian Begley.
Jenkins, 40, was fired by Memphis after nearly six seasons with nine games remaining in the 2024-25 regular season despite having a 44-29 record at the time. It was reported that the Grizzlies were anticipating on firing him after a first-round playoff exit, per ESPN.
The Grizzlies still made the playoffs with a 48-34, earning the No. 8 seed in the Western Conference. They were eliminated by the Oklahoma City Thunder in four games.
Jenkins owns a career coaching record of 250-214 (.539) with his best season coming in 2021-22 when he led the Grizzlies to a 56-26 record and the No. 2 seed. That team lost in the conference semifinals, falling to the eventual NBA champion Golden State Warriors.
New York is not in any rush with its search and are casting a wide net of candidates, Begley reported Wednesday.


Maybe my number one choice now that Bryant seems out of the picture


these seem a bit contradictory to me. how can we know who seems out of the picture. it's just another daily media cycle.
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1885 » by ctorres » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:06 pm

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ctorres wrote:Johnnie Bryant is only a year younger than Taylor Jenkins, and started his NBA career only one season later than Jenkins

If the Knicks are targeting Jenkins, it makes me feel like Bryant will not be the guy

Bryant worked four seasons with the Knicks not just under Thibs, but under Rose's regime. Shouldn't that be more valuable than a completely outside hire like Jenkins?

Does Bryant's four years of experience working for the Knicks make him less valuable than Taylor Jenkins who has no ties to the Knicks what so ever?

Something just feels off to me about Taylor Jenkins being a target over Johnnie Bryant.


we still don't know anything about who's a target over who, to be fair.

but assuming jenkins is higher on the list, wouldn't 6 years of HC experience largely held in high regard also matter?


yes

I just feel like Bryant's getting the short-end of the stick. Bryant was an associate head coach for the Knicks for almost as long as Jenkins was a head coach for Memphis.

It's like we spent all the time developing Bryant to one day be the heir apparent to Thibodeau, just to never follow through with it.
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1886 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:08 pm

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jvsimonetti0514 wrote:I know he won’t be hired cuz he’s too similar to Thibs but I honestly think Mike Malone makes the most sense for this roster. Won a championship with a terrible defending big and Murray. Murray is probably a better defender than Brunson but I wouldn’t consider him good either. He meshed a guard big combo into a consistent top 10 offense. I think he’d be able to put together a lot of actions that would get both towns and Brunson both involved with the play. Their 2 man game really fell apart as the year went on. You could play OG in the Aaron Gordon role, Mikal in the KCP or MPJ role, and hopefully Deuce in KCP or MPJ role. It just seems to fit a lot better than I would have expected at first.


Don't forget Bruce Brown/Josh Hart comp


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Post#1887 » by seren » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:11 pm

I would be happy if they hire Bryant. If Dolan insists on coaching experience, I would take Jenkins over any of the other out of a job candidates.
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Post#1888 » by Fury » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:11 pm

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Fury wrote:Trust the process

How's that going in Philly?

Also when have we ever been bailed out with a #3 pick when we should be picking at like #7. Every time we should pick #7 we pick #8 and then an all-star is selected at 7.


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Post#1889 » by Guano » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:12 pm

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insane that he's being asked about that while actively competing in the finals after putting the knicks down.


Did we ask for permission to talk to Carlisle yet?


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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1890 » by Fury » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:12 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:
Fury wrote:
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June 12, 5:10 p.m.
Former Memphis Grizzlies head coach Taylor Jenkins remains squarely on the Knicks' radar as they continue their search for a new head coach, per people familiar with the matter, according to SNY NBA Insider Ian Begley.
Jenkins, 40, was fired by Memphis after nearly six seasons with nine games remaining in the 2024-25 regular season despite having a 44-29 record at the time. It was reported that the Grizzlies were anticipating on firing him after a first-round playoff exit, per ESPN.
The Grizzlies still made the playoffs with a 48-34, earning the No. 8 seed in the Western Conference. They were eliminated by the Oklahoma City Thunder in four games.
Jenkins owns a career coaching record of 250-214 (.539) with his best season coming in 2021-22 when he led the Grizzlies to a 56-26 record and the No. 2 seed. That team lost in the conference semifinals, falling to the eventual NBA champion Golden State Warriors.
New York is not in any rush with its search and are casting a wide net of candidates, Begley reported Wednesday.


Maybe my number one choice now that Bryant seems out of the picture


these seem a bit contradictory to me. how can we know who seems out of the picture. it's just another daily media cycle.


Okay then he’s my second choice
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1891 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:13 pm

ctorres wrote:Johnnie Bryant is only a year younger than Taylor Jenkins, and started his NBA career only one season later than Jenkins

If the Knicks are targeting Jenkins, it makes me feel like Bryant will not be the guy

Bryant worked four seasons with the Knicks not just under Thibs, but under Rose's regime. Shouldn't that be more valuable than a completely outside hire like Jenkins?

Does Bryant's four years of experience working for the Knicks make him less valuable than Taylor Jenkins who has no ties to the Knicks what so ever?

Something just feels off to me about Taylor Jenkins being a target over Johnnie Bryant.

Based on who we’ve been interested in and what Stein has been reporting, it’s clear the Knicks want someone with a proven track record. It’s very possible Bryant might be a great coach, but the Knicks must think he’s too much of a risk to go after seeing how close we were to getting to the finals. Now that can definitely change in the coming weeks, but that looks like what’s going on right now.
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Re: Official Knicks Coaching Search Thread 

Post#1892 » by 8516knicks » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:19 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
jvsimonetti0514 wrote:I know he won’t be hired cuz he’s too similar to Thibs but I honestly think Mike Malone makes the most sense for this roster. Won a championship with a terrible defending big and Murray. Murray is probably a better defender than Brunson but I wouldn’t consider him good either. He meshed a guard big combo into a consistent top 10 offense. I think he’d be able to put together a lot of actions that would get both towns and Brunson both involved with the play. Their 2 man game really fell apart as the year went on. You could play OG in the Aaron Gordon role, Mikal in the KCP or MPJ role, and hopefully Deuce in KCP or MPJ role. It just seems to fit a lot better than I would have expected at first.


Don't forget Bruce Brown/Josh Hart comp


Bruce Brown is a free agent, so it’s not like we’ve only got him at home!


Again, with Bruce Brown. Are his agents on here?
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Post#1893 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:24 pm

I’m glad the bulls shut us down for Billy Donovan. Another coach who would be a significant downgrade from Thibs. I watched OKC a lot when Melo was there and his offense was terrible to watch.
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Post#1894 » by Besart19 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:24 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:Mike brown is definitely a significant downgrade.


He may be a downgrade, but not by much. The offense would be a lot better, and our defense wasn't great anyway.

Mike brown is one of the worst defensive coaches in the league. You won’t be able to talk me into him. No thanks.

And if you’re admitting he’s a downgrade, that means you’re in agreement that our strategy clearly hasn’t worked if that’s the result of it.


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Post#1895 » by ctorres » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:25 pm

seren wrote:I would be happy if they hire Bryant. If Dolan insists on coaching experience, I would take Jenkins over any of the other out of a job candidates.


Bryant's lack of head coaching experience is being unfairly held against him IMO. Bryant already has familiarity with coaching Jalen, Josh, OG, Precious, Mitch, and Deuce. No other available candidate is more familiar with the majority of our core.

We could be setting ourselves up for Bryant to get snatched up elsewhere long-term. By the time we would want Bryant again, we will be asking his team for permission to interview him.
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Post#1896 » by Besart19 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:25 pm

Hire Brown as top assistant only if he brings Lebron for MLE
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Post#1897 » by Besart19 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:27 pm

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But they almost never ran PnR either. They were pretty much full transition.

I would think maximizing Brunson and KAT PnR is high on the priority list.


I'm still trying to figure out whose the problem in the PnR situation. I can't remember, but I recall him and KP had decent chemistry with the PnR. I also remember JB using him as a certified lob threat. Knicks need those actions back. I know KAT sets some of the weakness picks/screens, but it still confuses me on who to blame on this.


It's KAT.

He never actually sets a screen


Amare almost never touched his opp on screens and yet he was elite in PnR and PnP
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Post#1898 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:29 pm

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Hubie is still with us. Love that man.


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Post#1899 » by Fury » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:32 pm

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Hubie is still with us. Love that man.


Hubie Brown, Larry Brown and Mike Brown. Hire them all.


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Post#1900 » by Wildcat » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:34 pm

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I don't know why due diligence is a problem. Anyone with a brain watching the Knicks knew it was time for a change. The plan was to remove Thibs and built a pool of candidates. This narrative is pathetic.


Thibs a little better coach than you give him credit for, They could have done due diligence before they fired him—firing him 3 days into the offseason was just flat out stupid


My mother was the best mother in the world. I still stopped listening to her. Team and Thibs had a disconnect. They didn't tune him out regularly, but it was pretty obvious where this was going. And if your calling card is being stubborn, the relationship is done.

Give me a plausible reason why he stubbornly kept the starters in Game 6 after Boston waved the white flag? He was sending a message to his own team, both players, the front office, and staff.

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