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2025 NBA Draft (2)

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft (2) 

Post#2021 » by Stanford » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:27 pm

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Stanford wrote:2 for 3 and the Clippers pick is great value for the Spurs IMO. Tre on the Spurs would be so sick.

That’s a hard no from the Sixers.


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Post#2022 » by Stanford » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:29 pm

M2J wrote:He's the reason Philly is open to moving up to 2. They both would take Ace at 2. I've been saying it since my first post in these draft threads


Are you seriously suggesting that the Sixers would trade up to two to take Ace Bailey?
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Post#2023 » by FireMorey » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:33 pm

I think Morey absolutely does it. He chases high end talent, it's what he does. He'll try to find other ways to get picks back down the road. If Harper is a guy they evaluate as being in that class of player.
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Post#2024 » by sodmoraes » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:36 pm

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Sorry, meant Ace.



For someone so numbers based in your decision, you have it all wrong.

Ace is poor shooting off the dribble line 25% from 3 and 35% from 2 regarding pull ups specifically.

He's about 40% from 3 on the catch. 44% shooting anywhere on the catch (2 and 3...) and that's actually where most his shots came. He's a ready made player on that realm for a talented team.... As a movement shooter that also is great transition finisher and cuts to the basket. Plus he can rebound, get steals and blocks at a great rate.

He's the reason Philly is open to moving up to 2. They both would take Ace at 2. I've been saying it since my first post in these draft threads


So he's a C&S 3&D player? I don't think we need to spend the 3rd pick on someone like that.


I think he´s a 3&D player in the first couple of years of his career, with potential to be so much more than that, if he improves. Thats why so much of us want to draft him. I saw a nice post on the draft board about him, that i agree:

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Dat2U wrote:Use him as a bigger Klay Thompson = a movement shooter & spot up weapon. Limit his handling to attacking closeouts. I think he could provide excellent value in a simplified role where he's not tasked to be an on-ball shot creator until he expands his handle.


I think Mikal Bridges is a good model for him to follow early in his career. Focus on defense and being a great catch and shoot guy for now, but still have the freedom to hunt a mindrange shot in the right scenarios. That would be my vision and scale his usage up from there once he is mastering that role.


That´s why i think he´s a special pick. If he plays in this simplified role, he will be a useful player even if he doesnt develop his handle, passing and gets stronger. But if he does improve, it´s a home run pick. I think he has a good floor, with potential to have a great ceiling too.
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Post#2025 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:37 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:If 3 and the Clippers pick gets it done, then you do it. It's a fair trade for both teams. Otherwise The Spurs take who they really want at two because it's not Harper. I think they know that Harper is not gonna work with Fox, Castle, and Wemby. They trade down with us and take Edgecombe and we take Harper to pair with Maxey and McCain.


Nah they want ace.
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Post#2026 » by OleSchool » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:39 pm

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You mean Harper? He's a great ball handler, gets to the rim, and has shooting potential. His form is fine. Worse shooters than him have become good NBA shooters. He has every other tool in his toolbox.


Sorry, meant Ace.



For someone so numbers based in your decision, you have it all wrong.

Ace is poor shooting off the dribble line 25% from 3 and 35% from 2 regarding pull ups specifically.

He's about 40% from 3 on the catch. 44% shooting anywhere on the catch (2 and 3...) and that's actually where most his shots came. He's a ready made player on that realm for a talented team.... As a movement shooter that also is great transition finisher and cuts to the basket. Plus he can rebound, get steals and blocks at a great rate.

He's the reason Philly is open to moving up to 2. They both would take Ace at 2. I've been saying it since my first post in these draft threads


I'm confused, so we want to move to 2 to take Ace instead if SAS taking Ace at 2???

If Ace was so valuable to SAS then why would they even have a discussion with us about moving down and leaving this awesome prospect to us?

I'm sure Morey also called Dallas about the number 1 but they probably hung up on him Lol
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Post#2027 » by KramerDSP » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:46 pm

I’d be more willing to trade the LAC 2029 swap (i.e., best of PHI/LAC 2029 1st) to move up to #2 than the unprotected LAC 2028 1st.

Edit - the last time an LAC unprotected 1st was traded, it turned into Kyrie Irving.
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Post#2028 » by Iverson Armband » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:54 pm

KramerDSP wrote:I’d be more willing to trade the LAC 2029 swap (i.e., best of PHI/LAC 2029 1st) to move up to #2 than the unprotected LAC 2028 1st.

Edit - the last time an LAC unprotected 1st was traded, it turned into Kyrie Irving.

Well, of course you would lol

If they believe in Harper enough to want to trade up one spot for him and all it takes is that 2028 Clippers pick, then I think you have to do it. What’s the point of hoarding all these picks? To look cool? It’s to find a franchise guy. And none better than a 19 year old guard that’s cost controlled and compliments your roster.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft (2) 

Post#2029 » by OleSchool » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:01 pm

Ya know, if we wanted a bigger lead guard who could actually shoot there's always Kasper and we could move down and get assets instead of giving them up
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft (2) 

Post#2030 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:02 pm

sodmoraes wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
M2J wrote:

For someone so numbers based in your decision, you have it all wrong.

Ace is poor shooting off the dribble line 25% from 3 and 35% from 2 regarding pull ups specifically.

He's about 40% from 3 on the catch. 44% shooting anywhere on the catch (2 and 3...) and that's actually where most his shots came. He's a ready made player on that realm for a talented team.... As a movement shooter that also is great transition finisher and cuts to the basket. Plus he can rebound, get steals and blocks at a great rate.

He's the reason Philly is open to moving up to 2. They both would take Ace at 2. I've been saying it since my first post in these draft threads


So he's a C&S 3&D player? I don't think we need to spend the 3rd pick on someone like that.


I think he´s a 3&D player in the first couple of years of his career, with potential to be so much more than that, if he improves. Thats why so much of us want to draft him. I saw a nice post on the draft board about him, that i agree:

JMAC3 wrote:
Dat2U wrote:Use him as a bigger Klay Thompson = a movement shooter & spot up weapon. Limit his handling to attacking closeouts. I think he could provide excellent value in a simplified role where he's not tasked to be an on-ball shot creator until he expands his handle.


I think Mikal Bridges is a good model for him to follow early in his career. Focus on defense and being a great catch and shoot guy for now, but still have the freedom to hunt a mindrange shot in the right scenarios. That would be my vision and scale his usage up from there once he is mastering that role.


That´s why i think he´s a special pick. If he plays in this simplified role, he will be a useful player even if he doesnt develop his handle, passing and gets stronger. But if he does improve, it´s a home run pick. I think he has a good floor, with potential to have a great ceiling too.


I think Nets Mikal is what Ace wants to play and is his ceiling. Similar to Brandon Ingram with the Pelicans. That’s not really winning basketball. Both struggled immensely with those respective teams in terms of winning; had fun counting stats.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft (2) 

Post#2031 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:07 pm

VJ actually flashed some impressive midrange pull up game in the FIBA matchups. Feel like Hield and Gordon really opened things up for him; more so than at Baylor. Not giving him an excuse for his Baylor time, but it’s a nice proof of concept.
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Post#2032 » by zaz102 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:21 pm

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Post#2033 » by Arsenal » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:25 pm

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Multiple future 1sts to move up from #3 to #2? Hell no.

They don't want Harper. Call their bluff.
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Post#2034 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:29 pm

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Multiple future 1sts to move up from #3 to #2? Hell no.

They don't want Harper. Call their bluff.


They will pick Harper 2 regardless of trade.
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Post#2035 » by Negrodamus » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:36 pm

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Big time out on this. I'd do one future at most.
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Post#2036 » by Sixersftw » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:38 pm

I know it's silly season rn but if we Fultz ourselves again I'm gonna be irate.
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Post#2037 » by zaz102 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:38 pm

To be fair, it read to me like the multiple firsts was Pompey saying what they could offer rather than anything being reported.
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Post#2038 » by the_process » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:39 pm

If 3 and the 28 LAC 1st is not enough, then SA can just make the pick.
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Post#2039 » by zaz102 » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:42 pm

The San Antonio Spurs remain active in offseason discussions, but league sources tell RG there is increasing doubt the team will ultimately land Kevin Durant via trade — and the present expectation is that the Spurs will use the No. 2 overall pick in the NBA Draft to select Dylan Harper, barring a surprise development.

Sources stress that the situation remains fluid less than two weeks before the NBA Draft, but as of June 12, doubt is increasing that Durant will land in San Antonio and there appears to be no clear traction.

While the Spurs have continued to be one of the teams linked to Durant, league observers question whether there is enough potential alignment between the Spurs and Suns on a possible trade.

Many around the league also believe the Spurs have valued Giannis Antetokounmpo higher than Durant on their trade board, but there has been a lack of momentum surrounding Antetokounmpo’s potential availability. Given Durant’s age not aligning with Wembanyama’s timeline, league observers expect the Spurs to remain cautious about potential trade compensation.

Focus on Dylan Harper

With the No. 2 pick, the Spurs are expected to select Harper, widely viewed as the top guard prospect in the 2025 NBA Draft class behind projected No. 1 pick Cooper Flagg.

Early in the draft process, some rival teams wondered whether San Antonio might consider trading back, given the presence of De’Aaron Fox, Devin Vassell, and Stephon Castle in its backcourt. However, sources tell RG that the Spurs are comfortable staying at No. 2 and selecting Harper as the best player available.

“The current read right now is that they’re just going to take the best player available and deal with any positional questions after that,” one source said.

Trade Discussions With the Philadelphia 76ers

While reports have emerged that the Philadelphia 76ers have had exploratory talks regarding a possible swap of the No. 2 and No. 3 picks, sources who have spoken with RG believe those discussions are more about intel gathering than serious momentum.

“For now, it’s more due diligence than anything,” one source told RG.

The Spurs’ approach could still shift depending on how the trade market evolves ahead of the draft and into July. But for now, the expectation remains that the franchise will continue building around Wembanyama through a mix of young talent and future flexibility — with Harper currently viewed as the likely addition at No. 2.

“It’s early. Things change fast this time of year,” one source said. “But right now, the expectation is Harper is going to San Antonio.”


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Post#2040 » by Embiid-MVP » Thu Jun 12, 2025 10:43 pm

76ers76ers wrote:dylan harper next evan turner


Lol dude just stop. I'd delete my account if I said this kinda take and was dead wrong. I don't even need to see him in the NBA and know that's not gonna happen. Maybe if he surgically removes both his feet and puts the right on the left and the left on the right. Then sure he's got a chance to be as bad as Evan Turner
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