2025 NBA Draft (2)

[OleSchool]

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Multiple future 1sts to move up from #3 to #2? Hell no.

They don't want Harper. Call their bluff.

Well to be fair the twitter says "could offer". It didn't say we would

[the_process]

Back to focusing on fleecing the Pelicans.

[Iscull]

Trading away the Clippers pick in this draft would be beyond idiotic. Rutgers had two of the "Top 3" players and didn't even make the tournament. Ben Simmons vibes there...

Don't panic, sit tight, and let other teams overreact and trade WAY too much for a player with high bust potential.

I'd focus on finding a way to move PG to get away from his contract and add quality depth at the wing. Also to add backups that aren't almost 40 years old...

[Negrodamus]

Trading away the Clippers pick in this draft would be beyond idiotic. Rutgers had two of the "Top 3" players and didn't even make the tournament. Ben Simmons vibes there...

Don't panic, sit tight, and let other teams overreact and trade WAY too much for a player with high bust potential.

I'd focus on finding a way to move PG to get away from his contract and add quality depth at the wing. Also to add backups that aren't almost 40 years old...

I'm all for trading back as some of my top guys are in the 6-10 ranges, but if we're staying pat, I think I'm fully in on VJ. Him cramming on those big men in the FIBA games changes my view on him. I also believe in his shot form much more than Harper and Bailey.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I'm going to guess that we stay put and take Edgecombe or Bailey. It really will be that simple.

[Iscull]

Trading away the Clippers pick in this draft would be beyond idiotic. Rutgers had two of the "Top 3" players and didn't even make the tournament. Ben Simmons vibes there...

Don't panic, sit tight, and let other teams overreact and trade WAY too much for a player with high bust potential.

I'd focus on finding a way to move PG to get away from his contract and add quality depth at the wing. Also to add backups that aren't almost 40 years old...

I'm all for trading back as some of my top guys are in the 6-10 ranges, but if we're staying pat, I think I'm fully in on VJ. Him cramming on those big men in the FIBA games changes my view on him. I also believe in his shot form much more than Harper and Bailey.

I'm in agreement on VJ. I this his floor is a lot higher than Ass or Harper, which is what we need now. His defense and energy alone will get him minutes.

I actually like what Bill Simmons mentioned on his pod about us adding another guard with McCain and Maxey. Look at the Pacers - it's pretty nice if you have 4-5 capable guards. My concern is mortgaging more picks to do so.

[Arsenal]

Good podcast with draft experts Jonathan Givony and Nate Duncan:

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1. Givony and Duncan are Baileyvers at #3 overall. Ace learned and grew a lot throughout the year.
2. Duncan is low on VJ, no star potential. Givony says VJ's college tape wasn't star quality, but his FIBA play was better.
3. Maluach won't be a great rim protector, but should be switchable and may become a good shooter.
4. Nipples has some star equity and could rise into the top 5. They think he should be able to hold up on D.

[Arsenal]

Trading away the Clippers pick in this draft would be beyond idiotic. Rutgers had two of the "Top 3" players and didn't even make the tournament. Ben Simmons vibes there...

Don't panic, sit tight, and let other teams overreact and trade WAY too much for a player with high bust potential.

I'd focus on finding a way to move PG to get away from his contract and add quality depth at the wing. Also to add backups that aren't almost 40 years old...

I'm all for trading back as some of my top guys are in the 6-10 ranges, but if we're staying pat, I think I'm fully in on VJ. Him cramming on those big men in the FIBA games changes my view on him. I also believe in his shot form much more than Harper and Bailey.

I'm in agreement on VJ. I this his floor is a lot higher than Ass or Harper, which is what we need now. His defense and energy alone will get him minutes.

I actually like what Bill Simmons mentioned on his pod about us adding another guard with McCain and Maxey. Look at the Pacers - it's pretty nice if you have 4-5 capable guards. My concern is mortgaging more picks to do so.

We already have another good guard named Quentin Grimes. Adding VJ is overkill, and we don't need someone with a high floor, we need someone with a high ceiling.

[eyeatoma]

Good podcast with draft experts Jonathan Givony and Nate Duncan:

Watch on YouTube

1. Givony and Duncan are Baileyvers at #3 overall. Ace learned and grew a lot throughout the year.
2. Duncan is low on VJ, no star potential. Givony says VJ's college tape wasn't star quality, but his FIBA play was better.
3. Maluach won't be a great rim protector, but should be switchable and may become a good shooter.
4. Nipples has some star equity and could rise into the top 5. They think he should be able to hold up on D.

Anything on Tre Johnson or Dylan Harper?

[Arsenal]

Good podcast with draft experts Jonathan Givony and Nate Duncan:

Watch on YouTube

1. Givony and Duncan are Baileyvers at #3 overall. Ace learned and grew a lot throughout the year.
2. Duncan is low on VJ, no star potential. Givony says VJ's college tape wasn't star quality, but his FIBA play was better.
3. Maluach won't be a great rim protector, but should be switchable and may become a good shooter.
4. Nipples has some star equity and could rise into the top 5. They think he should be able to hold up on D.

Anything on Tre Johnson or Dylan Harper?

Didn't listen to all of it. They have Harper at #2 though.

[Negrodamus]

I'm all for trading back as some of my top guys are in the 6-10 ranges, but if we're staying pat, I think I'm fully in on VJ. Him cramming on those big men in the FIBA games changes my view on him. I also believe in his shot form much more than Harper and Bailey.

I'm in agreement on VJ. I this his floor is a lot higher than Ass or Harper, which is what we need now. His defense and energy alone will get him minutes.

I actually like what Bill Simmons mentioned on his pod about us adding another guard with McCain and Maxey. Look at the Pacers - it's pretty nice if you have 4-5 capable guards. My concern is mortgaging more picks to do so.

We already have another good guard named Quentin Grimes. Adding VJ is overkill, and we don't need someone with a high floor, we need someone with a high ceiling.

We already have a future HOFer at SF/PF named Paul George and a nice young SF in Justin Edwards. Also we have Kelly Oubre off the bench. Adding Bailey is overkill, we don't need someone who is an ISO midrange shooter, we need someone who plays off ball with a 2-way high ceiling.

[Covi_Marsh]

I'm in agreement on VJ. I this his floor is a lot higher than Ass or Harper, which is what we need now. His defense and energy alone will get him minutes.

I actually like what Bill Simmons mentioned on his pod about us adding another guard with McCain and Maxey. Look at the Pacers - it's pretty nice if you have 4-5 capable guards. My concern is mortgaging more picks to do so.

We already have another good guard named Quentin Grimes. Adding VJ is overkill, and we don't need someone with a high floor, we need someone with a high ceiling.

We already have a future HOFer at SF/PF named Paul George and a nice young SF in Justin Edwards. Also we have Kelly Oubre off the bench. Adding Bailey is overkill, we don't need someone who is an ISO midrange shooter, we need someone who plays off ball with a 2-way high ceiling.

Isn’t Ace a better off ball shooter then VJ from 3 and midrange?

[Arsenal]

I'm in agreement on VJ. I this his floor is a lot higher than Ass or Harper, which is what we need now. His defense and energy alone will get him minutes.

I actually like what Bill Simmons mentioned on his pod about us adding another guard with McCain and Maxey. Look at the Pacers - it's pretty nice if you have 4-5 capable guards. My concern is mortgaging more picks to do so.

We already have another good guard named Quentin Grimes. Adding VJ is overkill, and we don't need someone with a high floor, we need someone with a high ceiling.

We already have a future HOFer at SF/PF named Paul George and a nice young SF in Justin Edwards. Also we have Kelly Oubre off the bench. Adding Bailey is overkill, we don't need someone who is an ISO midrange shooter, we need someone who plays off ball with a 2-way high ceiling.

Ace will be an excellent 3&D forward to start. No one better than Daryl Morey to fix his "shot diet."

You haters seem to think Ace can't learn something that simple with pro coaching? Yet VJ will magically develop in all facets of his lacking offensive game?

[Arsenal]

We already have another good guard named Quentin Grimes. Adding VJ is overkill, and we don't need someone with a high floor, we need someone with a high ceiling.

We already have a future HOFer at SF/PF named Paul George and a nice young SF in Justin Edwards. Also we have Kelly Oubre off the bench. Adding Bailey is overkill, we don't need someone who is an ISO midrange shooter, we need someone who plays off ball with a 2-way high ceiling.

Isn’t Ace a better off ball shooter then VJ from 3 and midrange?

Yes he is a better off-ball shooter. All they have to do is coach the ISO-ball out of Ace and he'll be a good 3&D wing immediately.

[Negrodamus]

We already have another good guard named Quentin Grimes. Adding VJ is overkill, and we don't need someone with a high floor, we need someone with a high ceiling.

We already have a future HOFer at SF/PF named Paul George and a nice young SF in Justin Edwards. Also we have Kelly Oubre off the bench. Adding Bailey is overkill, we don't need someone who is an ISO midrange shooter, we need someone who plays off ball with a 2-way high ceiling.

Ace will be an excellent 3&D forward to start. No one better than Daryl Morey to fix his "shot diet."

You haters seem to think Ace can't learn something that simple with pro coaching? Yet VJ will magically develop in all facets of his lacking offensive game?

More emotional posting from you.

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C&S is comparable between the two. Passing, rim pressure, FTr are all way in favor of Edgecombe, which is what you want from an off ball player.

[Arsenal]

Damn, if Nipples gets abused this bad in college, imagine what NBA players will do to him?

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Too slow to defend guards. Too small to defend forwards. This dude is gonna be HUNTED non-stop in the league...

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[Iverson Armband]

We already have another good guard named Quentin Grimes. Adding VJ is overkill, and we don't need someone with a high floor, we need someone with a high ceiling.

We already have a future HOFer at SF/PF named Paul George and a nice young SF in Justin Edwards. Also we have Kelly Oubre off the bench. Adding Bailey is overkill, we don't need someone who is an ISO midrange shooter, we need someone who plays off ball with a 2-way high ceiling.

Ace will be an excellent 3&D forward to start. No one better than Daryl Morey to fix his "shot diet."

You haters seem to think Ace can't learn something that simple with pro coaching? Yet VJ will magically develop in all facets of his lacking offensive game?

VJ is feasting off this current Finals right now. The VJ heads are so excited to draft the next Mathurin or Nesmith thinking we’re just role players away from being where the Pacers are. Thats a huge mistake. This team should be operating as a blank slate right now. The 5% chance VJ is Oladipo is not enough. If Morey takes him, he’s earned the benefit of the doubt, but they better had put him through every off the dribble shooting and ball handling drill in existence during that damn workout.

[Negrodamus]

I'm actually a round or two behind you: thinking more Ant Edwards with VJ, not Mathurin.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

We already have another good guard named Quentin Grimes. Adding VJ is overkill, and we don't need someone with a high floor, we need someone with a high ceiling.

We already have a future HOFer at SF/PF named Paul George and a nice young SF in Justin Edwards. Also we have Kelly Oubre off the bench. Adding Bailey is overkill, we don't need someone who is an ISO midrange shooter, we need someone who plays off ball with a 2-way high ceiling.

Ace will be an excellent 3&D forward to start. No one better than Daryl Morey to fix his "shot diet."

You haters seem to think Ace can't learn something that simple with pro coaching? Yet VJ will magically develop in all facets of his lacking offensive game?

I think the allure with Edgecombe is that he's done these things at every level so far. No reason to think he can't do it in the NBA. Therefore, he could go even further as a pro. I definitely think he can. Wouldn't be mad if we took him.

With that said, I do still prefer Bailey. DGAF what anyone thinks about that. I think you use Bailey early on in his career as a C&S player that focuses on defense and his shot while working on his handles over time. Bailey, you hope is the bridge from present to future for this team. Again, he's a role player starting out, but eventually evolves into a star player. That's the hope/goal with him.

I think both Edgecombe and Bailey are all stars at some point. Can't go wrong with either one.

[Blackbird79]

I’d be more willing to trade the LAC 2029 swap (i.e., best of PHI/LAC 2029 1st) to move up to #2 than the unprotected LAC 2028 1st.

Edit - the last time an LAC unprotected 1st was traded, it turned into Kyrie Irving.

I’m assuming the Sixers could put some protections on the 2028. As long as there was a reasonable protection (say top 6), then I might go for it.