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Fury wrote:HEZI wrote:BKlutch wrote:Your position flies in the face of all the good evidence we've seen so far, so we'll have to agree to disagree on this.
What good evidence? It’s actually the opposite, evidence is going against what you are saying
Well, if Dolan wanted to fire him for the longest, why didn't they do it before? Seems like someone else gave the go.
SelbyCobra wrote:Thibs as the head coach of a team with championship aspirations is an untenable situation. He's a "good coach", "great" even, in certain environments. When it comes to competing for a championship specifically - as in, no other goal, simply championship or bust - he's the bottom of the barrel, just about as bad as it gets. From what he's shown me over the course of his career as a head coach, any other option besides Thibs is a better option than Thibs [u]when you are legitimately in the competitive mix for a championship[_u].
To me, the indictment of the FO in this situation isn't not having a replacement ready to go, it's that they used another year of Brunson's prime with a guy that has definitively proven he's not a championship head coach. They kept Thibs past his expiration date and cost themselves a legitimate opportunity at the Finals/chip in a season that has proven to be a wide open as webs ever seen it.
Moving forward as quickly as they did after being eliminated is a necessary correction, not a mistake. To me, the mistake was letting it get this far. Anyone who passes a basic vetting about working with this roster in the context of winning a championship in today's day and age is an upgrade because it actually gives you a chance - even if it never happens. Yes, we might be Lloyd Christmas, but there are at least better non-zero odds with someone else besides Thibs at the helm at this stage of Leon's build.
Capn'O wrote:SelbyCobra wrote:Thibs as the head coach of a team with championship aspirations is an untenable situation. He's a "good coach", "great" even, in certain environments. When it comes to competing for a championship specifically - as in, no other goal, simply championship or bust - he's the bottom of the barrel, just about as bad as it gets. From what he's shown me over the course of his career as a head coach, any other option besides Thibs is a better option than Thibs [u]when you are legitimately in the competitive mix for a championship[_u].
To me, the indictment of the FO in this situation isn't not having a replacement ready to go, it's that they used another year of Brunson's prime with a guy that has definitively proven he's not a championship head coach. They kept Thibs past his expiration date and cost themselves a legitimate opportunity at the Finals/chip in a season that has proven to be a wide open as webs ever seen it.
Moving forward as quickly as they did after being eliminated is a necessary correction, not a mistake. To me, the mistake was letting it get this far. Anyone who passes a basic vetting about working with this roster in the context of winning a championship in today's day and age is an upgrade because it actually gives you a chance - even if it never happens. Yes, we might be Lloyd Christmas, but there are at least better non-zero odds with someone else besides Thibs at the helm at this stage of Leon's build.
It should have happened last summer. The timing of the Towns trade vis a vis the Thibs extension was unfortunate and I see how they wanted to give him the year after that. But we knew what the answer would be then.
ctorres wrote:
I think it's kind of lame that the media waited until AFTER Thibs was fired to report about the lack of scrimmages and practices.
They could have reported this DURING the season and put pressure on the team early to answer questions about it.
MrDollarBills wrote:
It matches the eye test, and explains why Karl and Jalen looked like they've never played together before in the playoffs.
The preparation and attention to detail was god awful all season long. I really would love to know why Tom's coaching just fell off a cliff because the last two seasons he was much sharper and the team looked way more cohesive.
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god shammgod wrote:i don't like the knicks trying to besmirch thibs to the press because they're receiving criticism about the firing. really low class. that man did more for you than you could do for yourself for decades.
Knicks365247 wrote:Thibs will be replaced by a terrible hire. **** Dolan, **** Leon Rose, **** everybody in that front office.
Adelheid wrote:no practice scrimmages is the price tom needs to pay for him to accomplish his usual short starter rotations
but it begs the question, "why not just expand the rotation?
Wildcat wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
It matches the eye test, and explains why Karl and Jalen looked like they've never played together before in the playoffs.
The preparation and attention to detail was god awful all season long. I really would love to know why Tom's coaching just fell off a cliff because the last two seasons he was much sharper and the team looked way more cohesive.
He didn't have many full practices last season, too. Until he says otherwise, I assume you wanted them to develop chemistry during in-game and to keep their bodies fresh. Honestly, I thought most of team's conditioning seemed better than most teams. Blowing Game 1 just destroyed them mentally.