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Post#1882 » by dukeknicksirish » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:36 am

knickstape4ever wrote:I'll pass on a soon to be 37 y/o, coach killing KD. The vibes around teams he's on just seems off, always some drama

use Josh Hart and Mitch, and whatever picks we have left to upgrade the roster. that's at least 32.4M being sent out (+ use Kolek, Dadiet, Huk, Deuce, and can send out up to 43.7M not including potential S&T of our current cap holds)

I'd like to keep the core of Jalen, KAT, OG, and Mikal in tact one more season. it well pretty well considering how late the KAT trade occurred in the offseason, not much time to mesh

Hart, for his salary, just isn't enough of a net positive in playoff basketball where half court offense is even more important. would be tough to get rid of another Brunson ally (mitigated maybe if we can find a way to get Donte back, who'd be perfect at the 2), but they're in the endgame now, it's all about winning a ring, personal relationships be damned

Ideal fit players that make $32.4 million or less :
- Immanuel Quickly 32.5
- Khris Middleton $31.6
- Jrue Holiday $30
- Jerami Grant $29.7
- Jordan Poole $29.6
- RJ BARRET $25.7
- Jaren Jackson $25.2
- Jonathan Isaac $25
- DeMar DeRozen $23.4
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Post#1883 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:51 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
ctorres wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:Ideally we want a C that can hit the open 3, get boards, and block some shots. KAT does 2 of those things at an elite level. Mitch does 2 at an elite level. Easy to find a 1 category guy, hard to find a 2 cat, only 3 cat I know is Thomas Bryant vs Knicks.


He won't block too many shots shots, but Sandro Mamukelashvili from the Spurs lit us up last year for 34 points

Last 18 games of the season, his numbers were 17.4 mpg, 10.4 ppg on 49/37/78 shooting splits, 4.8 rpg, 1.3 apg and a total of 8 steals and 6 blocks

He is an unrestricted free agent and the Spurs apparently renounced their bird rights on him

It should be interesting to see if he goes for more than the taxpayer MLE this summer


I wanted him last summer

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Post#1884 » by knickstape4ever » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:54 am

dukeknicksirish wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:I'll pass on a soon to be 37 y/o, coach killing KD. The vibes around teams he's on just seems off, always some drama

use Josh Hart and Mitch, and whatever picks we have left to upgrade the roster. that's at least 32.4M being sent out (+ use Kolek, Dadiet, Huk, Deuce, and can send out up to 43.7M not including potential S&T of our current cap holds)

I'd like to keep the core of Jalen, KAT, OG, and Mikal in tact one more season. it well pretty well considering how late the KAT trade occurred in the offseason, not much time to mesh

Hart, for his salary, just isn't enough of a net positive in playoff basketball where half court offense is even more important. would be tough to get rid of another Brunson ally (mitigated maybe if we can find a way to get Donte back, who'd be perfect at the 2), but they're in the endgame now, it's all about winning a ring, personal relationships be damned

Ideal fit players that make $32.4 million or less :
- Immanuel Quickly 32.5
- Khris Middleton $31.6
- Jrue Holiday $30
- Jerami Grant $29.7
- Jordan Poole $29.6
- RJ BARRET $25.7
- Jaren Jackson $25.2
- Jonathan Isaac $25
- DeMar DeRozen $23.4


the name that clearly sticks out is JJJ, but 1) I doubt he gets moved 2) Hart, Mitch, and any combo of Deuce, Huk, Kolek, Dadiet + picks won't be enough. he'd be perfect tho, can play next to KAT at the 4/5, then play exclusively at the 5 when KAT is on the bench + provides another elite defender to the starting lineup
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Post#1885 » by KnixinSix » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:56 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:I'll pass on a soon to be 37 y/o, coach killing KD. The vibes around teams he's on just seems off, always some drama

use Josh Hart and Mitch, and whatever picks we have left to upgrade the roster. that's at least 32.4M being sent out (+ use Kolek, Dadiet, Huk, Deuce, and can send out up to 43.7M not including potential S&T of our current cap holds)

I'd like to keep the core of Jalen, KAT, OG, and Mikal in tact one more season. it well pretty well considering how late the KAT trade occurred in the offseason, not much time to mesh

Hart, for his salary, just isn't enough of a net positive in playoff basketball where half court offense is even more important. would be tough to get rid of another Brunson ally (mitigated maybe if we can find a way to get Donte back, who'd be perfect at the 2), but they're in the endgame now, it's all about winning a ring, personal relationships be damned

Ideal fit players that make $32.4 million or less :
- Immanuel Quickly 32.5
- Khris Middleton $31.6
- Jrue Holiday $30
- Jerami Grant $29.7
- Jordan Poole $29.6
- RJ BARRET $25.7
- Jaren Jackson $25.2
- Jonathan Isaac $25
- DeMar DeRozen $23.4


the name that clearly sticks out is JJJ, but 1) I doubt he gets moved 2) Hart, Mitch, and any combo of Deuce, Huk, Kolek, Dadiet + picks won't be enough. he'd be perfect tho, can play next to KAT at the 4/5, then play exclusively at the 5 when KAT is on the bench + provides another elite defender to the starting lineup


Bridges + might be enough actually. He is on last year of deal and is CAA. If he hints he won't resign getting back Bridges + something is not a bad return at all.
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Post#1886 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:45 am

Kevin o Connor makes great points. It comes down to if you think you can win a chip with Brunson and KAT’s defense.
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Post#1887 » by boogeydown » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:38 am

Trade idea:
NY gets Jarren Jackson Jr, Brandon Clarke

Memphis gets Mikal Bridges, Mitch Robinson, Pacome Dadiet.

Use the mid level on some one like Gary Trent Jr or Luke Kennard for 3 point shooting.
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Post#1888 » by Wildcat » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:43 am

boogeydown wrote:Trade idea:
NY gets Jarren Jackson Jr, Brandon Clarke

Memphis gets Mikal Bridges, Mitch Robinson, Pacome Dadiet.

Use the mid level on some one like Gary Trent Jr or Luke Kennard for 3 point shooting.


Ew. Trade doesn't need to be over complicated. Mikal for JJJ. Done.
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Post#1889 » by Fat » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:50 am

We ain’t getting JJJ
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Post#1890 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:03 am

Fat wrote:We ain’t getting JJJ

Knicks weren’t getting Brunson, OG, Mikal or KAT either
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Post#1891 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:05 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Fat wrote:We ain’t getting JJJ

Knicks weren’t getting Brunson, OG, Mikal or KAT either


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Post#1892 » by Knicksfan1992 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:18 am

ctorres wrote:
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HEZI wrote:Spurs and Rockets probably have the better assets. Not sure we have what they want unless they want KAT


KAT going to a third team who KD has no interest in is probably the play here unless Booker pushes for his buddy KAT.

Magic can put together an interesting young package, for example, that nets them KAT.


KAT with Banchero and Franz would not be a good fit IMO. I would be shocked if Orlando would put KAT with them.



Orlando is going nowhere until they get some guys who can actually score the ball efficiently. For all his faults KAT can score efficiently and spread the floor. 2 things Orlando desperately need since they have been one of the worst offenses in the league.

Franz is pretty overrated IMO. I would sell "high" on him if I'm Orlando. He's developed a hitch in his jumper and has shot 22% from 3 in his two playoff stints. If he can't shoot them he's a very easy guy to defend.
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Post#1893 » by ctorres » Fri Jun 13, 2025 5:08 am

so if Phoenix doesn't want any of the Knicks pieces for KD, what third team would want any of the Knicks for their assets?

if the Knicks legitimately want KD, then I'm really trying to see what 3rd team is a logical trade partner

I feel like New Orleans could trade for KAT using some of their expirings (McCollum and Olynyk), prospects, and picks, and without giving up their main core guys

KAT to go with Zion, Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, DeJonte Murray would be a really good starting lineup. If Murray needs more time to get healthy, they could start Jose Alvarado and still look nice.

Pelicans are rumored to want to trade up to #4 to draft Ace Bailey, so if they are going with a full-on youth movement, they may not care for KAT
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Post#1894 » by ctorres » Fri Jun 13, 2025 5:16 am

Knicksfan1992 wrote:
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KAT going to a third team who KD has no interest in is probably the play here unless Booker pushes for his buddy KAT.

Magic can put together an interesting young package, for example, that nets them KAT.


KAT with Banchero and Franz would not be a good fit IMO. I would be shocked if Orlando would put KAT with them.



Orlando is going nowhere until they get some guys who can actually score the ball efficiently. For all his faults KAT can score efficiently and spread the floor. 2 things Orlando desperately need since they have been one of the worst offenses in the league.

Franz is pretty overrated IMO. I would sell "high" on him if I'm Orlando. He's developed a hitch in his jumper and has shot 22% from 3 in his two playoff stints. If he can't shoot them he's a very easy guy to defend.


That's fair. Then I guess Orlando can package the Wagner brothers (Franz and Moritz) for KAT

However, it turns out that just like the Knicks, the Magic are ALSO a 1st apron team that cannot take on more salary than it trades out

so we would need a FOURTH team that is not in the apron to help the Knicks, Magic, and Suns to get a deal done :lol:
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Post#1895 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jun 13, 2025 1:08 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:I'll pass on a soon to be 37 y/o, coach killing KD. The vibes around teams he's on just seems off, always some drama

use Josh Hart and Mitch, and whatever picks we have left to upgrade the roster. that's at least 32.4M being sent out (+ use Kolek, Dadiet, Huk, Deuce, and can send out up to 43.7M not including potential S&T of our current cap holds)

I'd like to keep the core of Jalen, KAT, OG, and Mikal in tact one more season. it well pretty well considering how late the KAT trade occurred in the offseason, not much time to mesh

Hart, for his salary, just isn't enough of a net positive in playoff basketball where half court offense is even more important. would be tough to get rid of another Brunson ally (mitigated maybe if we can find a way to get Donte back, who'd be perfect at the 2), but they're in the endgame now, it's all about winning a ring, personal relationships be damned

Ideal fit players that make $32.4 million or less :
- Immanuel Quickly 32.5
- Khris Middleton $31.6
- Jrue Holiday $30
- Jerami Grant $29.7
- Jordan Poole $29.6
- RJ BARRET $25.7
- Jaren Jackson $25.2
- Jonathan Isaac $25
- DeMar DeRozen $23.4


the name that clearly sticks out is JJJ, but 1) I doubt he gets moved 2) Hart, Mitch, and any combo of Deuce, Huk, Kolek, Dadiet + picks won't be enough. he'd be perfect tho, can play next to KAT at the 4/5, then play exclusively at the 5 when KAT is on the bench + provides another elite defender to the starting lineup

Why not keep Hart and Mitch? They’re very good players.
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Post#1896 » by KnixinSix » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:41 pm

boogeydown wrote:Trade idea:
NY gets Jarren Jackson Jr, Brandon Clarke

Memphis gets Mikal Bridges, Mitch Robinson, Pacome Dadiet.

Use the mid level on some one like Gary Trent Jr or Luke Kennard for 3 point shooting.


Then trade McBride, Kolek, Dadiet and Tucker for Donte .

*Here is a similar scenario below in a 3 team trade format (one of my favorite potential trade scenarios for this offseason overall).



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JJJ/KAT/Huk
KAT/JJJ/OG
OG/Hart/MLE
Divo/MLE/Hart
Brunson/Divo/Wright

What a lineup.....

Rebounding, enough defense especially when you stagger Brun and KAT more than Thibs did, 3 ball, perimeter D depending on how you play some lineups, very deep etc.

Jenkins who prefers to play his starters closer to THIRTY instead of FOURTY also fits really well for that lineup above....
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Post#1897 » by knickstape4ever » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:16 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
dukeknicksirish wrote:Ideal fit players that make $32.4 million or less :
- Immanuel Quickly 32.5
- Khris Middleton $31.6
- Jrue Holiday $30
- Jerami Grant $29.7
- Jordan Poole $29.6
- RJ BARRET $25.7
- Jaren Jackson $25.2
- Jonathan Isaac $25
- DeMar DeRozen $23.4


the name that clearly sticks out is JJJ, but 1) I doubt he gets moved 2) Hart, Mitch, and any combo of Deuce, Huk, Kolek, Dadiet + picks won't be enough. he'd be perfect tho, can play next to KAT at the 4/5, then play exclusively at the 5 when KAT is on the bench + provides another elite defender to the starting lineup

Why not keep Hart and Mitch? They’re very good players.


I explain above why I wouldn't keep Hart: his lack of half court offense in a hindrance during playoffs. As for Mitch, he's on an expiring deal, and w/ this teams cap situation, they need to send out an equal amount of $ as they get in return. Gotta give to get
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Post#1898 » by KnixinSix » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:34 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
the name that clearly sticks out is JJJ, but 1) I doubt he gets moved 2) Hart, Mitch, and any combo of Deuce, Huk, Kolek, Dadiet + picks won't be enough. he'd be perfect tho, can play next to KAT at the 4/5, then play exclusively at the 5 when KAT is on the bench + provides another elite defender to the starting lineup

Why not keep Hart and Mitch? They’re very good players.


I explain above why I wouldn't keep Hart: his lack of half court offense in a hindrance during playoffs. As for Mitch, he's on an expiring deal, and w/ this teams cap situation, they need to send out an equal amount of $ as they get in return. Gotta give to get


Divo (or keeping McBride) is your counterbalance to Hart and a new coach probably won't force feed Hart as much as Thibs tried to do.
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Post#1899 » by dukeknicksirish » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:15 pm

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Post#1900 » by R-DAWG » Fri Jun 13, 2025 4:18 pm

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knickstape4ever wrote:I'll pass on a soon to be 37 y/o, coach killing KD. The vibes around teams he's on just seems off, always some drama

use Josh Hart and Mitch, and whatever picks we have left to upgrade the roster. that's at least 32.4M being sent out (+ use Kolek, Dadiet, Huk, Deuce, and can send out up to 43.7M not including potential S&T of our current cap holds)

I'd like to keep the core of Jalen, KAT, OG, and Mikal in tact one more season. it well pretty well considering how late the KAT trade occurred in the offseason, not much time to mesh

Hart, for his salary, just isn't enough of a net positive in playoff basketball where half court offense is even more important. would be tough to get rid of another Brunson ally (mitigated maybe if we can find a way to get Donte back, who'd be perfect at the 2), but they're in the endgame now, it's all about winning a ring, personal relationships be damned

Ideal fit players that make $32.4 million or less :
- Immanuel Quickly 32.5
- Khris Middleton $31.6
- Jrue Holiday $30
- Jerami Grant $29.7
- Jordan Poole $29.6
- RJ BARRET $25.7
- Jaren Jackson $25.2
- Jonathan Isaac $25
- DeMar DeRozen $23.4


I have no clue how we can make it work salary wise without destroying our depth, nor do I know if I want the long term contract, but Jrue Holiday would be awesome next to Brunson. He’s a true secondary ball handler with enough playmaking skills to incorporate some Brunson off ball into the offense, while also being a great on ball backcourt defender and shooter.

Would push Bridges back to the SF role which he has excelled in Brooklyn and Pheonix. But the cost is going to be depth and playing Anunoby out of position at PF.

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