Combining Recent Draft Rumors (NOP/PHI/SAS)

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Who Accepts/Rejects?

Only NOP accepts
0
No votes
Only PHI accepts
2
33%
Only SAS accepts
0
No votes
NOP & PHI accept
3
50%
NOP & SAS accept
0
No votes
PHI & SAS accept
0
No votes
All 3 accept
1
17%
All 3 reject
0
No votes
 
Total votes: 6

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Re: Combining Recent Draft Rumors (NOP/PHI/SAS) 

Post#21 » by Jojothewhale » Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:26 pm

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Jojothewhale wrote:The one possible way you can get from 3 to 2 cheaply on the relative scale is if San Antonio is dead set on taking one specific guy (probably Bailey). We have none of the info necessary to say that, so we can't. I'm just trying to think of any scenario where that could even theoretically happen. That means it can't involve another team by definition.

Otherwise it would cost an arm and half of a leg. This is the case 98%+ of the time.


Let's pretend Dirk is in this draft. And much like in his actual draft only one team really knows enough about him(I know Pitino claimed in hindsight to be taking him for Boston, but...) so you feel confident you still get the best player in the draft at 7.

And Philly was calling you about 2. And New Orleans was calling Philly about 3.

You would extract max value from Philly for them to move from 3 to do, not let New Orleans pay on their behalf. Then you would call and extract value from the Pels to move from 7 to 3 on top of it.

Again, this scenario feels far fetched as there aren't hidden players like Dirk these days, but even in the required scenario, the Spurs would walk away with more extra stuff than this.


Hell yes. All sides have to act in their interests. The Sixers are out there leaking that they love 4 guys in this draft. This Sixers to 3 rumor probably leaked from San Antonio. That's just playing their trade leverage as all competent teams do.

Cheaply for me means we're starting the negotiation with the '28 Clippers Unprotected 1st (not the '29 swap) and something of real value. Or McCain, who I am petrified to trade. You have to come with something real and valuable and then adjust from there depending on what other teams offer. There's no way on earth a swap gets you up to 2. It doesn't even get you to the negotiating table.
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Re: Combining Recent Draft Rumors (NOP/PHI/SAS) 

Post#22 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:52 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:I get what you're saying, but if they aren't targeting Harper then it's moot. I don't know that they wouldn't target Harper, I'm just going off what's out there. Maybe they would pay even extra to get Harper, IDK. They just haven't been linked to him up to this point.


Okay now explain why New Orleans has to pay more to get from 7 to 3 than Philly does from 3 to 2 when the value gap is larger between 2 and 3 than 3 and 7.

I'm willing to play along with your required assumption that they don't want Harper but their choice of everyone after him(Ace or someone else). But I need help with why Philly is benefiting like this.


And this isn't an assumption? You're saying this as fact.
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Re: Combining Recent Draft Rumors (NOP/PHI/SAS) 

Post#23 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:22 pm

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Texas Chuck wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:I get what you're saying, but if they aren't targeting Harper then it's moot. I don't know that they wouldn't target Harper, I'm just going off what's out there. Maybe they would pay even extra to get Harper, IDK. They just haven't been linked to him up to this point.


Okay now explain why New Orleans has to pay more to get from 7 to 3 than Philly does from 3 to 2 when the value gap is larger between 2 and 3 than 3 and 7.

I'm willing to play along with your required assumption that they don't want Harper but their choice of everyone after him(Ace or someone else). But I need help with why Philly is benefiting like this.


And this isn't an assumption? You're saying this as fact.



Oh not again.... It's my opinion. But also one pretty widely held I think you'll find.

But I just can't with all you guys who insist I and only I say in my opinion before posting anything lol.

But also its pretty clear you are sidestepping all the posters telling you the Sixers aren't paying enough. So ignore me too then if you are so sure you are correct.
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Re: Combining Recent Draft Rumors (NOP/PHI/SAS) 

Post#24 » by ProcessDoctor » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:32 pm

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ProcessDoctor wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:
Okay now explain why New Orleans has to pay more to get from 7 to 3 than Philly does from 3 to 2 when the value gap is larger between 2 and 3 than 3 and 7.

I'm willing to play along with your required assumption that they don't want Harper but their choice of everyone after him(Ace or someone else). But I need help with why Philly is benefiting like this.


And this isn't an assumption? You're saying this as fact.



Oh not again.... It's my opinion. But also one pretty widely held I think you'll find.

But I just can't with all you guys who insist I and only I say in my opinion before posting anything lol.

But also its pretty clear you are sidestepping all the posters telling you the Sixers aren't paying enough. So ignore me too then if you are so sure you are correct.


I mean this is kinda your thing on this board man lol. You present your individual opinions as widespread knowledge or fact. You even went so far as to say that CP3 in Houston actually had positive value when in reality (ie what actually happened IRL) picks had to be attached to get rid of him.

I think it’s reasonable to add more from the Sixers perspective, but I sure as hell don’t think the gap between 2 and 3 is greater than 3 and 7. Dylan Harper is not Cooper Flagg.
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Re: Combining Recent Draft Rumors (NOP/PHI/SAS) 

Post#25 » by Texas Chuck » Thu Jun 12, 2025 9:37 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
I mean this is kinda your thing on this board man lol. You present your individual opinions as widespread knowledge or fact. You even went so far as to say that CP3 in Houston actually had positive value when in reality (ie what actually happened IRL) picks had to be attached to get rid of him.

I think it’s reasonable to add more from the Sixers perspective, but I sure as hell don’t think the gap between 2 and 3 is greater than 3 and 7. Dylan Harper is not Cooper Flagg.


I state my opinions with conviction when I feel confident in them yes. :D If you want to put extra weight on my takes, cool I'm flattered, but I've never asked anyone to.

No idea what you are referring to with CP3 but if you want to link me to a post where I was wrong about something and need me to eat crow cool I will. I can admit when I get things wrong. Though zero idea of the relevance here?

WE will strongly disagree on the value difference, but thats okay, This board would be boring if we all agreed.

Hope we can have further conversations without it needing to be personal.
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Re: Combining Recent Draft Rumors (NOP/PHI/SAS) 

Post#26 » by YayBasketball » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:41 am

The rumor is all coming from one person: Kevin O'Conner from Yahoo Sports. A local media reporter in New Orleans, Fletcher Mackel had refuted the report:
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I think a more interesting trifecta is:

Pelicans get #2

Spurs get #3 and assets from Pelicans ('26 swap MIL/NOP + '27 MIL/NOP 1st)

76ers get #7 and Herb Jones

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