2025 NBA Draft

[Magic_Johnny12]

It appears there’s real smoke regarding Orlando trying to move up

Marc Stein reiterated Orlando’s desire

“Since publishing those words, various sources have indicated that they do believe the Hawks will fall right in line with Oklahoma City, Orlando and Brooklyn as teams with multiple picks in the mid-to-late first round exploring various avenues to move up the draft board.”

A lot of competition to move up. Teams probably all have the same intel on a certain can’t miss prospect and seeing what it will take to move up.

[The Effect]

Actually, I think YOU just proved my point for me

The league minimum is based on how many years of experience a player has, not whether or not he was a 2nd round pick or an undrafted free agent for what it's worth.

So a 2nd round pick and an UDFA would, theoretically, make the same amount of money if they were signed in the summer.

Note: a lot of teams offer 2nd round picks a bit more than the minimum in an effort to get them to agree to longer cheap contracts.

yeah, thats why i was saying that they would rather sign a guy like Castleton instead of a late 1st or 2nd rounder, hes been in the league for a year or two and would be getting league min, same thing they did with iggy and admiral, signed guys that had a year or two in the league instead of paying a rookie.
COnsidering our cap situation, would be insanely surprised if they didnt do that again, cant imagine them paying a late 1st rounder (dont even get me started on the 2nd round) to sit around and do nothing. My guess is they sell the den pick (or kick the can down the road and trade it for a protected 2028 1st) and bring in a guy for league min to fill out the roster

[JoshuaPotter]

Just who exactly in the draft are trying to move up? Someone help me out because I can't think of a single name.

[drsd]

Just who exactly in the draft are trying to move up? Someone help me out because I can't think of a single name.

Knueppel

It appears there’s real smoke regarding Orlando trying to move up

Marc Stein reiterated Orlando’s desire

“Since publishing those words, various sources have indicated that they do believe the Hawks will fall right in line with Oklahoma City, Orlando and Brooklyn as teams with multiple picks in the mid-to-late first round exploring various avenues to move up the draft board.”

A lot of competition to move up. Teams probably all have the same intel on a certain can’t miss prospect and seeing what it will take to move up.

It is widly rumored that the Magic is targetting Knueppel. With only draft assets, that would require both FRPs this year and the Suns pick next year.
Houston is the team considered. Personaly I don't think he will slide to 10. But he is worth the risk of the Suns 2026 pick.

Brooklyn needs players so Anthony, Howard, both FRPs, and both SPRs for the rights to Knueppel at 8. Is that enough?

[pepe1991]

Just who exactly in the draft are trying to move up? Someone help me out because I can't think of a single name.

Knueppel

It appears there’s real smoke regarding Orlando trying to move up

Marc Stein reiterated Orlando’s desire

“Since publishing those words, various sources have indicated that they do believe the Hawks will fall right in line with Oklahoma City, Orlando and Brooklyn as teams with multiple picks in the mid-to-late first round exploring various avenues to move up the draft board.”

A lot of competition to move up. Teams probably all have the same intel on a certain can’t miss prospect and seeing what it will take to move up.

It is widly rumored that the Magic is targetting Knueppel. With only draft assets, that would require both FRPs this year and the Suns pick next year.
Houston is the team considered. Personaly I don't think he will slide to 10. But he is worth the risk of the Suns 2026 pick.

Brooklyn needs players so Anthony, Howard, both FRPs, and both SPRs for the rights to Knueppel at 8. Is that enough?

Knueppel really solves nothing, tbh i would not even take him at 16#.

Guy is good spot up shooter , okey passer by college standards and that's about it. Typiacal Duke college hype about prospect that media sells as better than he is ( Bagley over Dončić, Ingram, RJ Barrett, Zion... they are falacity hype factory)

Average size, soft body without any muscle tone, slowfooted, very limited latheral quickness.

Guy can't even create shots at college level, shot 25% from dribble pull ups against crappy college defenders.

He won't be beating anybody off the dribble on offense and he will relagated into spot ups and nothing more.

Pretty much same problem you have with Black, you can't "develop" somebody into being faster, quicker, more athletic or more explosive.

He will probably stick around nba for long, won't be bust, but also won't be star player. And because how important defense on perimeter on serious teams is, he probably won't be starter on contending teams at any point.

He already had his annual fake news, false college hype baloon bursting , went from 6'8 to 6'5 without shoes at combine

So below average size vise nba player, below average athlete, below average defender. Yea... hard pass. You draft him and you hope for what Kispert ? Might as well trade 25th pick for Kispert.

[drsd]

Might as well trade 25th pick for Kispert.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Just who exactly in the draft are trying to move up? Someone help me out because I can't think of a single name.

Knueppel

It appears there’s real smoke regarding Orlando trying to move up

Marc Stein reiterated Orlando’s desire

“Since publishing those words, various sources have indicated that they do believe the Hawks will fall right in line with Oklahoma City, Orlando and Brooklyn as teams with multiple picks in the mid-to-late first round exploring various avenues to move up the draft board.”

A lot of competition to move up. Teams probably all have the same intel on a certain can’t miss prospect and seeing what it will take to move up.

It is widly rumored that the Magic is targetting Knueppel. With only draft assets, that would require both FRPs this year and the Suns pick next year.
Houston is the team considered. Personaly I don't think he will slide to 10. But he is worth the risk of the Suns 2026 pick.

Brooklyn needs players so Anthony, Howard, both FRPs, and both SPRs for the rights to Knueppel at 8. Is that enough?

I’m not going to argue the value, but the direction seems off. I’m all for moving up if it meant packaging 16/25 for the player you’re targeting in the lower lottery. However, sending out valuable exprirings/rookie scale contracts AND the PHX pick which is one of the better coveted assets in the league to just draft another rookie that isn’t a projected starter seems like a mismanagement of assets.

We obviously need shooting, but Orlando could get that elsewhere for a lot cheaper.

Now if Orlando made an aggressive play to draft Harper because they feel he’s the missing piece, I could understand and justify it because he’s a day-1 starter and would fit somewhat seamlessly and is a #1 pick in any other draft that doesn’t have Cooper in it.

Knueppel is a less athletic/shorter Corey Kispert, you might as well just try to get Kispert in that case.

[RookieStar]

Just who exactly in the draft are trying to move up? Someone help me out because I can't think of a single name.

Knueppel

It appears there’s real smoke regarding Orlando trying to move up

Marc Stein reiterated Orlando’s desire

“Since publishing those words, various sources have indicated that they do believe the Hawks will fall right in line with Oklahoma City, Orlando and Brooklyn as teams with multiple picks in the mid-to-late first round exploring various avenues to move up the draft board.”

A lot of competition to move up. Teams probably all have the same intel on a certain can’t miss prospect and seeing what it will take to move up.

It is widly rumored that the Magic is targetting Knueppel. With only draft assets, that would require both FRPs this year and the Suns pick next year.
Houston is the team considered. Personaly I don't think he will slide to 10. But he is worth the risk of the Suns 2026 pick.

Brooklyn needs players so Anthony, Howard, both FRPs, and both SPRs for the rights to Knueppel at 8. Is that enough?

Huh? Where are these rumors from? Any link?

[RookieStar]

Just who exactly in the draft are trying to move up? Someone help me out because I can't think of a single name.

Knueppel

It appears there’s real smoke regarding Orlando trying to move up

Marc Stein reiterated Orlando’s desire



A lot of competition to move up. Teams probably all have the same intel on a certain can’t miss prospect and seeing what it will take to move up.

It is widly rumored that the Magic is targetting Knueppel. With only draft assets, that would require both FRPs this year and the Suns pick next year.
Houston is the team considered. Personaly I don't think he will slide to 10. But he is worth the risk of the Suns 2026 pick.

Brooklyn needs players so Anthony, Howard, both FRPs, and both SPRs for the rights to Knueppel at 8. Is that enough?

Knueppel really solves nothing, tbh i would not even take him at 16#.

Guy is good spot up shooter , okey passer by college standards and that's about it. Typiacal Duke college hype about prospect that media sells as better than he is ( Bagley over Dončić, Ingram, RJ Barrett, Zion... they are falacity hype factory)

Average size, soft body without any muscle tone, slowfooted, very limited latheral quickness.

Guy can't even create shots at college level, shot 25% from dribble pull ups against crappy college defenders.

He won't be beating anybody off the dribble on offense and he will relagated into spot ups and nothing more.

Pretty much same problem you have with Black, you can't "develop" somebody into being faster, quicker, more athletic or more explosive.

He will probably stick around nba for long, won't be bust, but also won't be star player. And because how important defense on perimeter on serious teams is, he probably won't be starter on contending teams at any point.

He already had his annual fake news, false college hype baloon bursting , went from 6'8 to 6'5 without shoes at combine

So below average size vise nba player, below average athlete, below average defender. Yea... hard pass. You draft him and you hope for what Kispert ? Might as well trade 25th pick for Kispert.

Even if im a duke fan, I don't want to get Kon for our team as well.

However, let's be accurate.. he isnt only a good spot up shooter but he is a good movement/off the screen 3pt shooter like Klay as well. Will that translate to the league.. who knows.

True.. average size for a SG/SF with a 6'5-change barefoot height

Ummm.. he can create shots at college level. He bullies defenders the same size as him and shoots from outside those bigger than him.

Yeah.. I cant see him beating anyone off the dribble against starters in the league.

In fairness to him, he did keep saying on interviews even before the draft that he is 6'5 ish barefoot and to correct those "fake-news" Can hear it lots of times after a Duke victory and reporters asking about his future plans.

[Magic_Johnny12]

Just who exactly in the draft are trying to move up? Someone help me out because I can't think of a single name.

Knueppel

It appears there’s real smoke regarding Orlando trying to move up

Marc Stein reiterated Orlando’s desire



A lot of competition to move up. Teams probably all have the same intel on a certain can’t miss prospect and seeing what it will take to move up.

It is widly rumored that the Magic is targetting Knueppel. With only draft assets, that would require both FRPs this year and the Suns pick next year.
Houston is the team considered. Personaly I don't think he will slide to 10. But he is worth the risk of the Suns 2026 pick.

Brooklyn needs players so Anthony, Howard, both FRPs, and both SPRs for the rights to Knueppel at 8. Is that enough?

Huh? Where are these rumors from? Any link?

No credible source has linked us to Knueppel, definitely not “widely” rumored. Simply hypothetically because Orlando needs shooting.

[RookieStar]

Knueppel



It is widly rumored that the Magic is targetting Knueppel. With only draft assets, that would require both FRPs this year and the Suns pick next year.
Houston is the team considered. Personaly I don't think he will slide to 10. But he is worth the risk of the Suns 2026 pick.

Brooklyn needs players so Anthony, Howard, both FRPs, and both SPRs for the rights to Knueppel at 8. Is that enough?

Huh? Where are these rumors from? Any link?

No credible source has linked us to Knueppel, definitely not “widely” rumored. Simply hypothetically because Orlando needs shooting.

Yeah...but there are others just as good in the shooting department as Kon..