Euphonetiks wrote:Mavrelous wrote:Euphonetiks wrote:
It is not a swap. It is a pick. The Pelicans cannot relinquish the better of NOP/MIL '27 pick without a new agreement with Atlanta because it is not an option to swap, it is an actual pick. That is unlike the '26 swap which the Pelicans could rescind without Milwuakee's permission because that is the Pels unilateral OPTION to swap the pick.
Sure they can
ATL: Hi NOP, we want you to reliquish the 27 swap, we'll pay you X
NOP: Fine by me, I take X, now you have MIL 27 1st allmfor yoirself and we have NOP 27 1st.
Same conversation can happen for 26 swap, but with MIL instead.
You misunderstand and it is mostly semantics. Not that this would ever happen, but for illustration purposes assume the Pelicans got super weird and absolutely just wanted their own picks regardless of which is higher. The technical difference is that the Pelicans could rescind the '26 swap with the Bucks unilaterally without the Bucks' permission because it is the Pelicans' option to swap which they can exercise or not at their own choosing, while the Pelicans would need to enter into an agreement with Atlanta on the '27 NOP/MIL to ensure that they get their own pick because the Pelicans do not have an option to swap. The Pelicans do not get to choose whether they exercise the right because they own the higher of the two picks.
In practice that does not mean very much outside of one situaiton. What you are saying is that the NOP '26 pick with the MIL swap and the better of NOP/MIL '27 pick essentially function the exact same if the Pels are trading the underlying '26 pick to another team. That is true.
The one situaiton where they function differently happens to be the most common on here: when they are put into trades with MIL to get their picks back. While the Pelicans can easily rescind the '26 swap, they cannot unwind their own 1st from the '27 NOP/MIL pick without including Atlanta. People constantly refer to the '27 as a 'swap', but if ATL is not included in those Bucks trades, the Pelicans give up control of their own draft because the '27 NOP/MIL is the better of the NOP/MIL unprotected picks and the Pelicans would be left with no pick in '27.
Yes, you can't relinquish it to MIL, because the swap is held with ATL, but you can sell the swap itself, but the original debate is if it is or it isn't a swap, it is a swap of MIL pick.
Also, if the goal is to give MIL their picks back, just send them the 27 pick, they control it, in a scenario where you trade these swaps, you expect to be good, otherwise, no point of selling the swaps, so just sell the pick.
