2025 NBA Draft Thread, Part 2 – Capture the Flagg

[Dogen]

Sam Vecenie/Athletic mock draft today. Paste picks 28-40 below. Celts take Maxime Raynaud and Kam Jones.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NBA_Draft/comments/1l9klh0/vecenie_2025_mock_draft/

28. Boston Celtics - Maxime Raynaud | 7-0 center

Raynaud would be a strong fit for Boston as a big who can dribble, pass and shoot. The Celtics’ scheme values players like this, as they prefer to play five-out offensively. Raynaud was among the most productive players in the country this year, averaging 20 points and 10 rebounds per game, and he’s gotten better every season in college. The key will be on defense, where Raynaud does not move particularly well and could be a liability in space. He had a terrific combine game in front of several NBA scouts, but some NBA executives in attendance pointed out that he played against the least-developed player in attendance in Croatian teenager Michael Ruzic.

29. Phoenix Suns (via CLE) - Rasheer Fleming | 6-8 forward

Fleming very much looks the part at 6-8 with a 7-5 wingspan. He’s also got great leaping ability and a chiseled frame that allows him to play with force and strength on both ends. He averaged 15 points, eight rebounds, 1.4 steals and 1.5 blocks per game, and drilled 39 percent from 3. The idea here is a 3-and-D forward who can potentially be switchable across the positional spectrum while also drilling 3s. But he doesn’t yet process things happening around him on the court quickly. But any team that values the frame and shooting potential will be interested in Fleming.

30. LA Clippers (via OKC) - Drake Powell | 6-5 wing

Powell has some momentum to end up somewhere in the back half of the first round because of his defense. Nobody guarded Flagg as well as Powell did this season. He’s just a long way away on offense, as he’s not that comfortable as a shooter or that capable as a ballhandler. It’s going to take him some time to play at the NBA level, even with his defensive skill. Still, he’s 6-5 with a 7-foot wingspan and is the kind of player the Clippers value as a tough-minded defender.

Second round:
31. Minnesota Timberwolves (via UTA): Noah Penda | 6-7 forward | 20 years old | Le Mans
32. Boston Celtics (via Washington): Kam Jones | 6-3 wing | 22 years old | Marquette
33. PROJECTED TRADE: Philadelphia 76ers (via CHA): Adou Thiero | 6-6 wing | 21 years old | Arkansas
34. Charlotte Hornets (via NOP): Ben Saraf | 6-5 guard | 19 years old | Ratiopharm Ulm
35. Philadelphia 76ers: Yanic Konan Niederhauser | 6-11 big | 22 years old | Penn State
36. Brooklyn Nets: Tyrese Proctor | 6-4 guard | 21 years old | Duke
37. Detroit Pistons (via Toronto): John Tonje | 6-5 wing | 23 years old | Wisconsin
38. San Antonio Spurs: Alex Toohey | 6-7 wing/forward | 21 years old | Sydney Kings
39. Toronto Raptors (via Portland): Rocco Zikarsky | 7-3 big | 19 years old | Brisbane Bullets
40. Washington Wizards (via Phoenix): Sion James | 6-4 guard | 23 years old | Duke

I already said I like Raynaud if that's who stevens wanted, I would believe. But it's so hard to pass on my favorite binky in fleming..

Also notice. There's pretty good talent early in that second round..

If both Raynaud and Fleming are there at pick #28, I would certainly feel conflicted, especially since it's unlikely that we could end up with the other at 32. Raynaud could fit right in if Brad is moving KP, or not resigning Luke.

Fleming looks to have more upside. He'd be my selection for "most likely to come back to haunt us for years to come if Celtics pass on him" status.

[Gant]

Hoopshype most likely Celtics picks:





https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-predictor-the-most-likely-pick-for-each-team/

[redslastlaugh]

If we do move off some vets, whoever that may be, and add some draft capital, I would LUV a draft like Danny Ainge had in 2004.
Ainge took Al Jefferson, Delonte West, Tony Allen, & Justin Reed
Four swings and the three first round guys played 2800 minutes that season.

He really did nail that draft. To this day, if somebody mentions Big Al, I'm still thinking Jefferson and not Horford.

I was sitting in a bar in Missoula, MT watching that 2004 draft. Was sooo excited that the Celtics snagged Big Al, and nobody there had a clue what I was on about. The consensus at that time was that Danny missed out on his guy Robert Swift, who ended up living in an apartment full of old pizza boxes in Seattle apparently.

Getting West and TA at #24 and 25 was a stellar Ainge draft. Full disclosure: I would have taken Allen at 24, and Saša Vujačić at 25 (or maybe gone big with Anderson Varejão, who ended up being pretty good too.)

Yea, I had my dad over to my apartment to watch. I was bummed when Swift came off the board but I was happy with Big Al, thought he could be the next McHale. And that year's St Joe's team started 28-0 or something so I knew of Delonte and thought he was crafty & could shoot. When we picked him I remember I told my dad, "you're gonna like him" ... it's funny, I remember it like it was yesterday

I also remember I got so much food for just the two of us: six packs of IBC root beer & Coca Cola, and ordered chicken wings, loaded cheese fries, & chips & queso. We ate like bosses that night and watched Danny go to work. it was good times for sure...

[return2glory]

I can see Stevens moving up into the 13-20 range and selecting a big playmaker like Egor Demin.

He’s one of the guys in the draft that I honestly have no clue on.

He could end up being a really effective physical guard or he could not be skilled or athletic enough. I wish I had a better read on him.

I only watched him twice in the NCAA tourny and he was okay.

[djFan71]

Hoopshype most likely Celtics picks:





https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-predictor-the-most-likely-pick-for-each-team/

I kinda love the 28 pick list. 32 not bad either

[phincsfan]

If it takes attaching #28 in order to move Jrue I'd pull that trigger.

Porzingis can be moved easily since he's expiring. I'd really try to convince him to not play for Latvia this summer and instead get healthy.

Salary will have to be brought back, but the 2nd apron can be avoided with those two moves.

I'd like to keep Sam for next season because IMO with increased minutes his value can increase for next off-season. If the tax is a concern though for investors I think a team like Toronto would benefit from trading for Sam. A draft day trade works because Sam would still be at 2mil until the new season locks in.

C's get Jamison Battle and #39

Raps get Sam

With #32 and #39 I'd draft Proctor and Broome. I think they are safe picks who come from solid programs.

IMO, Broome can contribute right away and Proctor can be eased in like Rico was last season.

Battle has a bunch of upside and he's cheap for the next two seasons.

Sign Luke. A frontcourt of Luke-Neems-Broome is durable

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Hoopshype most likely Celtics picks:





https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-predictor-the-most-likely-pick-for-each-team/

Interestingly, only 1 of those 10 guys (Powell) has worked out for the C's ahead of this year's draft..

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Ok, I'm only 21 seconds into this vid lol. But I'm getting vibes that he's a cross (pun intended) between Hauser and Kispert.

Kispert because the headband and the hairdo. Hauser because he's taller than Kispert..height-wise he's more like Hauser. But he has the stocky build that's more like Kispert.

Watch on YouTube

We had him in for a workout recently.

He's 24 yrs old though..

[Larry_Russell]

I have been getting really high in Rasheer Fleming personally.

I just honestly dont see him being around when we pick.


But an OG Anunoby type of player who is 6'8.5" barefoot with a 7'5" wingspan weighing 233, who can shoot, run and jump is bonkers to me.

Kid is a late growth spurt away from being a potential center, Myles Turner is is 6'11" in shoes with a 7'4" wingspan and weighed 242 when he was drafted.

[165bows]

Ok, I'm only 21 seconds into this vid lol. But I'm getting vibes that he's a cross (pun intended) between Hauser and Kispert.

Kispert because the headband and the hairdo. Hauser because he's taller than Kispert..height-wise he's more like Hauser. But he has the stocky build that's more like Kispert.

Watch on YouTube

We had him in for a workout recently.

He's 24 yrs old though..

I remember this guy, doesn't he have some local roots?

Edit: ha he's from Beverly where I lived for forever lol I knew I recognized that name. The tall guard the 76ers drafted that couldn't shoot and busted was from right near there too.
Edit2: I think he's roughly like a John Konchar type iirc.

[Celts17Pride]

I have been getting really high in Rasheer Fleming personally.

I just honestly dont see him being around when we pick.


But an OG Anunoby type of player who is 6'8.5" barefoot with a 7'5" wingspan weighing 233, who can shoot, run and jump is bonkers to me.

Kid is a late growth spurt away from being a potential center, Myles Turner is is 6'11" in shoes with a 7'4" wingspan and weighed 242 when he was drafted.

I think it would be a mistake for the Celtics not to take Rasheer Fleming if he is there at #28 but I also don't expect him to there.

[playa-hater]

I have been getting really high in Rasheer Fleming personally.

I just honestly dont see him being around when we pick.


But an OG Anunoby type of player who is 6'8.5" barefoot with a 7'5" wingspan weighing 233, who can shoot, run and jump is bonkers to me.

Kid is a late growth spurt away from being a potential center, Myles Turner is is 6'11" in shoes with a 7'4" wingspan and weighed 242 when he was drafted.

I think it would be a mistake for the Celtics not to take Rasheer Fleming if he is there at #28 but I also don't expect him to there.

I will 3rd that post but I will also say that's where you try to get Hauser and pick 28 to move up to whatever necessary to draft him.

[Fierce1]

Would be great if Cs end up with Fleming and Harper.

[Dogen]

I have been getting really high in Rasheer Fleming personally.

I just honestly dont see him being around when we pick.


But an OG Anunoby type of player who is 6'8.5" barefoot with a 7'5" wingspan weighing 233, who can shoot, run and jump is bonkers to me.

Kid is a late growth spurt away from being a potential center, Myles Turner is is 6'11" in shoes with a 7'4" wingspan and weighed 242 when he was drafted.

I think it would be a mistake for the Celtics not to take Rasheer Fleming if he is there at #28 but I also don't expect him to there.

I will 3rd that post but I will also say that's where you try to get Hauser and pick 28 to move up to whatever necessary to draft him.

Fleming has become my #1 target for a guy who might be there at #28, but probably won't. I would do the Hauser + 28, question is who do Celtics trade with?

Jack and Sam doing some nice daily analysis on the fit of potential Celtics picks, and I basically agree with their tier listing, which so far is:

S-tier: Fleming
A-tier: Wolf, Sorber
B-tier: Raynaud, Kalkbrenner, Clayton Jr.
C-tier: Brea, Niederhauser
D-tier: Thiero

Watch on YouTube

[Kalela]

Spoiler:

Hoopshype most likely Celtics picks:





https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-predictor-the-most-likely-pick-for-each-team/

If you can get Reynaud and Fleming with those picks, you have done an excellent job.

[redslastlaugh]

Yea, you watch him and he has the frame, length and snap release and you can see the upside. On the plus Fleming is like a fusion of Rob Williams, Grant Williams and Al Horford. And so there's tantalizing potential as an oncourt pairing with JT.

On the downside, people have said he doesn't have the feel for the game and the instincts to react properly under duress. But, like if there were no warts or concerns he'd be a top-10 lock or something like that. So, to me, don't overthink it. If he drops just take him, lol

Read on Twitter

I think these are clips from his pro day or maybe just a filmed workout, not sure. everyone looks good in edited clips released on twitter but not everyone looks 6-8 barefoot, 232lbs with a 7-5 wingspan good, lol

I have been getting really high in Rasheer Fleming personally.

I just honestly dont see him being around when we pick.

[Larry_Russell]

Yea, you watch him and he has the frame, length and snap release and you can see the upside. On the plus Fleming is like a fusion of Rob Williams, Grant Williams and Al Horford. And so there's tantalizing potential as an oncourt pairing with JT.

On the downside, people have said he doesn't have the feel for the game and the instincts to react properly under duress. But, like if there were no warts or concerns he'd be a top-10 lock or something like that. So, to me, don't overthink it. If he drops just take him, lol

Read on Twitter

I think these are clips from his pro day or maybe just a filmed workout, not sure. everyone looks good in edited clips released on twitter but not everyone looks 6-8 barefoot, 232lbs with a 7-5 wingspan good, lol

I have been getting really high in Rasheer Fleming personally.

I just honestly dont see him being around when we pick.

You cannot teach size or athleticism.

And as long as he is willing to work and learn....done and done.

[djFan71]

Yea, you watch him and he has the frame, length and snap release and you can see the upside. On the plus Fleming is like a fusion of Rob Williams, Grant Williams and Al Horford. And so there's tantalizing potential as an oncourt pairing with JT.

On the downside, people have said he doesn't have the feel for the game and the instincts to react properly under duress. But, like if there were no warts or concerns he'd be a top-10 lock or something like that. So, to me, don't overthink it. If he drops just take him, lol

Read on Twitter

I think these are clips from his pro day or maybe just a filmed workout, not sure. everyone looks good in edited clips released on twitter but not everyone looks 6-8 barefoot, 232lbs with a 7-5 wingspan good, lol

I have been getting really high in Rasheer Fleming personally.

I just honestly dont see him being around when we pick.

You cannot teach size or athleticism.

And as long as he is willing to work and learn....done and done.

I still love the idea of:

BOS: Naji, OMP and 22 for Jrue, 28
ATL: Gafford, Hardy, 28 for 22
DAL: Jrue for Gafford, Marshall, Hardy, OMP

Use 22 to grab Rasheer.

[playa-hater]

Yea, you watch him and he has the frame, length and snap release and you can see the upside. On the plus Fleming is like a fusion of Rob Williams, Grant Williams and Al Horford. And so there's tantalizing potential as an oncourt pairing with JT.

On the downside, people have said he doesn't have the feel for the game and the instincts to react properly under duress. But, like if there were no warts or concerns he'd be a top-10 lock or something like that. So, to me, don't overthink it. If he drops just take him, lol

Read on Twitter

I think these are clips from his pro day or maybe just a filmed workout, not sure. everyone looks good in edited clips released on twitter but not everyone looks 6-8 barefoot, 232lbs with a 7-5 wingspan good, lol

You cannot teach size or athleticism.

And as long as he is willing to work and learn....done and done.

I still love the idea of:

BOS: Naji, OMP and 22 for Jrue, 28
ATL: Gafford, Hardy, 28 for 22
DAL: Jrue for Gafford, Marshall, Hardy, OMP

Use 22 to grab Rasheer.

I am hoping for better, but I may be thinking unrealistically. So on that note This is a good deal.

[djFan71]

You cannot teach size or athleticism.

And as long as he is willing to work and learn....done and done.

I still love the idea of:

BOS: Naji, OMP and 22 for Jrue, 28
ATL: Gafford, Hardy, 28 for 22
DAL: Jrue for Gafford, Marshall, Hardy, OMP

Use 22 to grab Rasheer.

I am hoping for better, but I may be thinking unrealistically. So on that note This is a good deal.

Yeah, same. I kinda go for things I think the other teams would most likely accept, then hope Brad does better. I assume he will.