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2025 NBA Draft Thread: Detroit Pick Edition

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Post#901 » by Norseman79 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:17 pm

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Klomp wrote:I've seen some people try to compare Newell to Dereck Lively, but I feel like he's closer to Jaxson Hayes.

His measurements are pretty much the same as John Collins. His reach is roughly 3 inches shorter than Hayes, he's about an inch shorter, and 4 inches less wingspan. He's more skilled, and might be able to turn into a spacer but he's too small to play the 5 for anything more than spot minutes.


Yeah, Newell’s much smaller than those guys. He had about an 8’11” standing reach which is barely higher than long wings, like Cedric Coward. Newell is the classic he’s pretty good at a lot but not really a standout skill that will get him on an NBA court. In that way, he kind of reminds me of Leonard Miller. Good size, not great. Can hit some outside shots but not a shooter. Okay rebounder. Good athlete, but definitely not a great athlete by NBA standards. No one trait that really improves a team. I think either Newell or Miller will have to develop that - becoming great at least one of shooting, defense, or rebounding to become a good rotational piece.

I’m down on Newell. But he was in the first group of invites to the green room, so maybe NBA teams are not as down.


The difference I see between Newell and Miller (many really, Miller has such a high ceiling ), is Newell's motor and aggression, Miller seems so passive. There are also multiple reports that talk about his defense and rebounding as being big plusses. Like I said, if he ends up as a bigger, better Jared Vanderbilt as a floor, that's a pretty solid role player minimum.
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Post#902 » by thinktank » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:30 pm

He’s got good touch and if he can hit a three he could be an effective role player for sure. Not one of my guys but Connelly is the man. At this point it feels like we’re going after a big who can catch and finish, and also play a bunch of D on Cs. But not necessarily a straight C, which is interesting.
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Post#903 » by Norseman79 » Fri Jun 13, 2025 2:47 pm

thinktank wrote:He’s got good touch and if he can hit a three he could be an effective role player for sure. Not one of my guys but Connelly is the man. At this point it feels like we’re going after a big who can catch and finish, and also play a bunch of D on Cs. But not necessarily a straight C, which is interesting.


Yeah, it's a little weird
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Post#904 » by thinktank » Fri Jun 13, 2025 3:55 pm

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thinktank wrote:He’s got good touch and if he can hit a three he could be an effective role player for sure. Not one of my guys but Connelly is the man. At this point it feels like we’re going after a big who can catch and finish, and also play a bunch of D on Cs. But not necessarily a straight C, which is interesting.


Yeah, it's a little weird


Indication they want to keep Gobert.

And with Durant, you don’t need Randle.
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Post#905 » by minimus » Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:18 pm

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What is comparison for Jase Richardson? He looks lot me a lot like modern re-incarnation of Terrell Brandon
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread: Detroit Pick Edition 

Post#906 » by Domejandro » Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:38 pm

That height measurement is a disaster for his Draft stock. The dude is a scoring machine, but that's a rough one for him.

Honestly, offensively he gives off a bit of C.J. McCollum (though McCollum's handles were tighter). Interestingly enough, Jase Richardson says that he models his game after Mike Conley, but he's more-so a secondary playmaker.
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Post#907 » by minimus » Fri Jun 13, 2025 8:53 pm

Domejandro wrote:That height measurement is a disaster for his Draft stock. The dude is a scoring machine, but that's a rough one for him.

Honestly, offensively he gives off a bit of C.J. McCollum (though McCollum's handles were tighter). Interestingly enough, Jase Richardson says that he models his game after Mike Conley, but he's more-so a secondary playmaker.


I feel like he is an under radar candidate
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Post#908 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 13, 2025 9:28 pm

minimus wrote:What is comparison for Jase Richardson? He looks lot me a lot like modern re-incarnation of Terrell Brandon

A perfect prospect to dangle in an attempt to tempt Mat Ishbia.
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Post#909 » by shangrila » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:11 pm

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Domejandro wrote:That height measurement is a disaster for his Draft stock. The dude is a scoring machine, but that's a rough one for him.

Honestly, offensively he gives off a bit of C.J. McCollum (though McCollum's handles were tighter). Interestingly enough, Jase Richardson says that he models his game after Mike Conley, but he's more-so a secondary playmaker.


I feel like he is an under radar candidate

Is that a height joke?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread: Detroit Pick Edition 

Post#910 » by shangrila » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:13 pm

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thinktank wrote:He’s got good touch and if he can hit a three he could be an effective role player for sure. Not one of my guys but Connelly is the man. At this point it feels like we’re going after a big who can catch and finish, and also play a bunch of D on Cs. But not necessarily a straight C, which is interesting.


Yeah, it's a little weird


Indication they want to keep Gobert.

And with Durant, you don’t need Randle.

I'm not sure on that one.

They've spoken about and made moves to become a faster team. Someone like Newell, especially if you envision him as a small ball 5, would further push the team down that path. And it's a team concept that Rudy doesn't fit into.
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Post#911 » by Klomp » Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:33 pm

With Connelly's propensity to target "fallers" who were highly touted in high school (thinking of Porter, Minott, Miller, Moore, Dillingham, among others), I don't want to completely gloss over Liam McNeeley. I think it's important to remember that after Ant, our next 5 volume shooters from this past season have questions of varying levels about their longterm status on the team. I don't love the idea, but I don't think we should dismiss the idea.
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Post#912 » by Neeva » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:04 pm

Mcneely if he’s there at 31 sure.
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Post#913 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:14 pm

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What is comparison for Jase Richardson? He looks lot me a lot like modern re-incarnation of Terrell Brandon

If he's Terrell Brandon sign me up for drafting him if we can. I'd throw in 31 to move up a couple spots if needed.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread: Detroit Pick Edition 

Post#914 » by Rookie-Mistake » Fri Jun 13, 2025 11:37 pm

I just dont vibe with this draft...
There are no draft prospects that I feel we absolutely need.. kick the can down the road into next year's draft..

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Post#915 » by moss_is_1 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 12:01 am

Klomp wrote:With Connelly's propensity to target "fallers" who were highly touted in high school (thinking of Porter, Minott, Miller, Moore, Dillingham, among others), I don't want to completely gloss over Liam McNeeley. I think it's important to remember that after Ant, our next 5 volume shooters from this past season have questions of varying levels about their longterm status on the team. I don't love the idea, but I don't think we should dismiss the idea.

Drake Powell fits the bill as well. Could be a nice wing to target.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread: Detroit Pick Edition 

Post#916 » by Klomp » Sat Jun 14, 2025 2:25 am

moss_is_1 wrote:
Klomp wrote:With Connelly's propensity to target "fallers" who were highly touted in high school (thinking of Porter, Minott, Miller, Moore, Dillingham, among others), I don't want to completely gloss over Liam McNeeley. I think it's important to remember that after Ant, our next 5 volume shooters from this past season have questions of varying levels about their longterm status on the team. I don't love the idea, but I don't think we should dismiss the idea.

Drake Powell fits the bill as well. Could be a nice wing to target.

Yeah, I've been wondering about Powell lately as well, especially when you add in the franchise's defensive identity...
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread: Detroit Pick Edition 

Post#917 » by m2002brian » Sat Jun 14, 2025 3:24 am

Rookie-Mistake wrote:I just dont vibe with this draft...
There are no draft prospects that I feel we absolutely need.. kick the can down the road into next year's draft..

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Lets trust the guy that found a multiple time MVP in the second round and just rest peacefully.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Thread: Detroit Pick Edition 

Post#918 » by minimus » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:09 am

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Yeah, it's a little weird


Indication they want to keep Gobert.

And with Durant, you don’t need Randle.

I'm not sure on that one.

They've spoken about and made moves to become a faster team. Someone like Newell, especially if you envision him as a small ball 5, would further push the team down that path. And it's a team concept that Rudy doesn't fit into.


Fleming, Newell and Niederhauser would fit as smallball C. Although Niederhauser is a legit bigman
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Post#919 » by Klomp » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:17 am

I should be more excited by Niederhauser, but I am haunted by the Ghost of Justin Patton. That's the prototype that has always fooled me.
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Post#920 » by karch34 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:29 am

Klomp wrote:I should be more excited by Niederhauser, but I am haunted by the Ghost of Justin Patton. That's the prototype that has always fooled me.

Fair point but that was during the Thibadork era. We have an infrastructure that has been much better for development.

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