PF targets

[Canadafan]

Not the thread for it. But wow. 30yrs ago. Thats wild to me.
Love these jerseys too

[pistons4ever]

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The only Player i would give even 3 picks away

Age, talent would be perfect for us

[theBigLip]

I think we can do a Porzingis trade and make it work but could need a third team. In a trade, we can take back up to 175% of the outgoing salary (plus $100,000). Porzingis makes $30,731,707 next year. Fontecchio makes $8,307,692. So we need to send another salary of $9,481,569 to Boston. Trying to do this without trading Tobias.

I guess if not a third team, then to get to the 9.481M, we could use Sasser (2.886M) and do a sign and trade w Hardaway for the difference (6.6M). Not sure if we need picks going either way.

Boston can't accept a sign-and-trade, as they are far above the first apron. The only way for the Pistons to make it work in the absence of a third team without trading anyone significant is to clear all cap holds and then combine that cap space with Fontecchio's salary. That would match properly, but the Pistons would've gutted the bench for the sake of 50-some games of Porzingis.

Where would you see Porzingis fitting in anyway? The minutes at center are spoken for already, and he's not suited to play significant minutes at power forward after all of his injuries.

Then I guess a third team would be needed. I don’t want to give up any of our young core. He could play a stretch PF. He can certainly still score. But obviously we couldn’t expect huge minutes from him.

[LaSheed]

I think KD is going to Knicks/Pistons or Heat. Just a feeling I got to head East and avoid the gauntlet that is the Western Conference.

[Kilo]

I don't want old head soft ass Durant here. Doesn't fit the timeline, Cade can become a superstar without that mentorship.

Especially at the trade cost to make it happen.

[zeebneeb]

I don't want old head soft ass Durant here. Doesn't fit the timeline, Cade can become a superstar without that mentorship.

Especially at the trade cost to make it happen.

I've stated it before, that KD isn't worth it. I've also stated, that I wouldn't want even a 30 year old KD, because you have to gut the damn team to do so. People only look at Cade+KD and lose their minds.

We have all seen, time after time, teams gutting themselves, to land superstars, only to never win anything. It is not sustainable.

Building a well rounded team around Cade, who is an all-nba, top talent in the league, is going to win this team titles. It just has to be the right players, at the right cost.

I firmly believe, this team is ONE correct piece(and more experience and seasoning)away from truly competing for a title. I also believe it's a PF.

I am really nervous about this offseason, as I hope Langdon doesn't falter because of the sudden rise. Sitting on his hands could be a real problem. Swinging for the fences(gutting the team for that one guy)could be a problem. Taking a gamble on a young player(Aldama) could be a problem.

I'm in the take a shot at Aldama, or get Naz for as cheap as possible camp. The damage won't be as severe as a team gutting move.

With all of that said? *shrug* who knows? Maybe adding KD will work. Just enjoyed last season so damn much, I don't want to see the team implode from a bad move.

[MotownMadness]

Durant is too old to trade assets for

[MotownMadness]

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Age, talent would be perfect for us

He’s definitely the guy I would build a big package for

[the_l_train]

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Age, talent would be perfect for us

He’s definitely the guy I would build a big package for

Agreed, out of all the guys who seem somewhat available, JJJ makes the most sense long term for this core.

If Duren stays, perfect guy to put next to him. Duren makes up for his lack of rebounding.

Just hard to think of an appealing package that doesn’t involve Ausar that is enticing enough for Memphis to do this. I’d rather give up a ton of picks than give up Ausar or Ivey….and don’t think our picks are juicy enough to get this done.

[zeebneeb]

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The only Player i would give even 3 picks away

Age, talent would be perfect for us

He’s definitely the guy I would build a big package for

Agreed, out of all the guys who seem somewhat available, JJJ makes the most sense long term for this core.

If Duren stays, perfect guy to put next to him. Duren makes up for his lack of rebounding.

Just hard to think of an appealing package that doesn’t involve Ausar that is enticing enough for Memphis to do this. I’d rather give up a ton of picks than give up Ausar or Ivey….and don’t think our picks are juicy enough to get this done.

This is the pipe dream people. It would be like adding Rasheed all over again.

Cade
Ivey
Ausar
JJJ
Duren

Good luck NBA.

[Crymson]

Then I guess a third team would be needed. I don’t want to give up any of our young core. He could play a stretch PF. He can certainly still score. But obviously we couldn’t expect huge minutes from him.

He hasn't been a full-time PF since he left New York, and he hasn't played significant minutes at PF since Dallas.

His injuries cost him a lot of his mobility. He's pretty much a center through and through now.

[theBigLip]

Then I guess a third team would be needed. I don’t want to give up any of our young core. He could play a stretch PF. He can certainly still score. But obviously we couldn’t expect huge minutes from him.

He hasn't been a full-time PF since he left New York, and he hasn't played significant minutes at PF since Dallas.

His injuries cost him a lot of his mobility. He's pretty much a center through and through now.

Unless you want Ausar playing PF, we just have Duren, Stewart and Tobias playing as bigs. We could certainly use some more shooting. No one is just going to give us a young, starting worthy PF that can shoot threes. What are your ideas to fix things?

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[Crymson]

Unless you want Ausar playing PF, we just have Duren, Stewart and Tobias playing as bigs. We couldn’t expect huge use some more shooting. No one is just going to give us a young, starting worthy PF that can shoot threes. What are your ideas to fix things?

If Schroder and Beasley are back, I expect that Ron and Ausar will see the lion's share of the backup minutes at power forward. Next season's roster isn't going to be perfect. Development will remain a substantial focus, that of Ausar and Ron included. The front office isn't going all-in on winning, and nor should it. That could change if an excellent opportunity becomes available, but those are rare. This remains a roster whose future still depends overwhelmingly upon its youth developing as hoped.

[the_l_train]

Unless you want Ausar playing PF, we just have Duren, Stewart and Tobias playing as bigs. We couldn’t expect huge use some more shooting. No one is just going to give us a young, starting worthy PF that can shoot threes. What are your ideas to fix things?

If Schroder and Beasley are back, I expect that Ron and Ausar will see the lion's share of the backup minutes at power forward. Next season's team isn't going to be perfect. Development will still be a substantial focus, Ausar and Ron included. Tobias will presumably continue to start at power forward. He's fine there.

Ron may want to fight power forwards, but if he gets any minutes at PF, we have a major problem.

If anything, he’s closer to a shooting guard than a power forward. Dude is scrawny.

…and if we run back Tobias as our answer at PF, we can expect another first round exit.

[theBigLip]

Unless you want Ausar playing PF, we just have Duren, Stewart and Tobias playing as bigs. We couldn’t expect huge use some more shooting. No one is just going to give us a young, starting worthy PF that can shoot threes. What are your ideas to fix things?

If Schroder and Beasley are back, I expect that Ron and Ausar will see the lion's share of the backup minutes at power forward. Next season's team isn't going to be perfect. Development will still be a substantial focus, Ausar and Ron included. Tobias will presumably continue to start at power forward. He's fine there.

Ron may want to fight power forwards, but if he gets any minutes at PF, we have a major problem.

If anything, he’s closer to a shooting guard than a power forward. Dude is scrawny.

…and if we run back Tobias as our answer at PF, we can expect another first round exit.

Agreed.

Cade/Schroeder
Ivey/Beasley
Ausar/Holland
Tobias/???
Duren/Stewart

KP could certainly play w Stewart w the second string.

The whole reason this thread was started is because this is our biggest hole. Every possible player that we might get has some warts. We need to add something for sure, especially if we want to get further in the playoffs.

[the_l_train]

If Schroder and Beasley are back, I expect that Ron and Ausar will see the lion's share of the backup minutes at power forward. Next season's team isn't going to be perfect. Development will still be a substantial focus, Ausar and Ron included. Tobias will presumably continue to start at power forward. He's fine there.

Ron may want to fight power forwards, but if he gets any minutes at PF, we have a major problem.

If anything, he’s closer to a shooting guard than a power forward. Dude is scrawny.

…and if we run back Tobias as our answer at PF, we can expect another first round exit.

Agreed.

Cade/Schroeder
Ivey/Beasley
Ausar/Holland
Tobias/???
Duren/Stewart

KP could certainly play w Stewart w the second string.

The whole reason this thread was started is because this is our biggest hole. Every possible player that we might get has some warts. We need to add something for sure, especially if we want to get further in the playoffs.

KP at 80% with long covid is still a starter on this team. Tobias is just fine coming off the bench, and would take the benching way better than a guy like KP.

[SuperBad]

I’ve always liked Larry Nance JR as a backup, he can stretch the floor a little, and play D. I’d also be interested in taking a cheap deal on Jabari Walker. Maybe Kevin Love might come play for Bickerstaff again as a backup, I also like Jokic from Miami, and always wanted Kyle Anderson though I think he might be just about done now.
I think if I could move Ivey for Jabari Smith, if it was there, I might do it. We just need a good four who can shoot to roll with the young guys too much, and I just don’t see Ivey being more than a consistent top tier 6th man, but we need a young 4 more.

[the_l_train]

Not the sexiest name, but according to Hoopshype, Cavs may be looking to move off of Dean Wade to help justify paying Ty Jerome.

Wade can hit a 3 and is decent on defense. Not a bad backup. He would be a slight upgrade over Fontecchio.

[LaSheed]

Unless you want Ausar playing PF, we just have Duren, Stewart and Tobias playing as bigs. We couldn’t expect huge use some more shooting. No one is just going to give us a young, starting worthy PF that can shoot threes. What are your ideas to fix things?

If Schroder and Beasley are back, I expect that Ron and Ausar will see the lion's share of the backup minutes at power forward. Next season's team isn't going to be perfect. Development will still be a substantial focus, Ausar and Ron included. Tobias will presumably continue to start at power forward. He's fine there.

Ron may want to fight power forwards, but if he gets any minutes at PF, we have a major problem.

If anything, he’s closer to a shooting guard than a power forward. Dude is scrawny.

…and if we run back Tobias as our answer at PF, we can expect another first round exit.

Haha friends and I started calling him Ronnie Knuckles after squaring up with Jordan Clarkson.

[Laimbeer]

Not a PF, but how about Claxton with Stew at the four. Pretty stellar defensive interior. Claxton is 26 and signed for three more years declining - 25.3, 23.1, 20.9.

Something around Duren for Claxton? Some combination of Tobias, Tec, and possibly Sasser as filler. Who needs to add?