Official Brandon Ingram Thread

[tsherkin]

I can't believe we got Ingram for chump change.

People are sleeping on how much he's going to change our team.

I think everyone is pretty clear that he's a big get, when he's healthy. There's some hesitation over that health, but like, peak Ingram was nasty, hey? Circa 2020, that dude was really impressive. He hasn't been that since, mostly, but obviously health and roster context haven't worked in his favor. So we'll see.

We SHOULD all be excited about him. Even for 60 games, he's going to have a profound impact on our guys, regardless of how he's playing. And if we get more of that 38-39% 3pt shooting than the 35% version, it'll be even nastier.

[Thaddy]

I can't believe we got Ingram for chump change.

People are sleeping on how much he's going to change our team.

I think everyone is pretty clear that he's a big get, when he's healthy. There's some hesitation over that health, but like, peak Ingram was nasty, hey? Circa 2020, that dude was really impressive. He hasn't been that since, mostly, but obviously health and roster context haven't worked in his favor. So we'll see.

We SHOULD all be excited about him. Even for 60 games, he's going to have a profound impact on our guys, regardless of how he's playing. And if we get more of that 38-39% 3pt shooting than the 35% version, it'll be even nastier.

I wouldn't mind another forward if it means he can be rested. We need to keep him healthy for the playoffs. I don't think he's made for the NBA grind with his weak lower body. I'd be surprised if he ever hits more than 65 games.

[tsherkin]

I wouldn't mind another forward if it means he can be rested. We need to keep him healthy for the playoffs. I don't think he's made for the NBA grind with his weak lower body. I'd be surprised if he ever hits more than 65 games.

We have a reaming ton of forwards, I don't think that will be of much issue, to be honest.

[anotherhomer]

I can't believe we got Ingram for chump change.

People are sleeping on how much he's going to change our team.

I think everyone is pretty clear that he's a big get, when he's healthy. There's some hesitation over that health, but like, peak Ingram was nasty, hey? Circa 2020, that dude was really impressive. He hasn't been that since, mostly, but obviously health and roster context haven't worked in his favor. So we'll see.

We SHOULD all be excited about him. Even for 60 games, he's going to have a profound impact on our guys, regardless of how he's playing. And if we get more of that 38-39% 3pt shooting than the 35% version, it'll be even nastier.

It was an underrated get for a 2026 pacers pick

[tsherkin]

It was an underrated get for a 2026 pacers pick

It's a great get, if he's healthy, no question.

[S.W.A.N]

It was an underrated get for a 2026 pacers pick

It's a great get, if he's healthy, no question.

I think our medical staff, one of the best, along with a long long recovery season where he didn't have to come back too soon is going to pay huge dividends.

He'll be a high usage guy for us in a system where the ball moves a lot.

23 6 and 5 about right for his stats, but its his impact on the team stats where I think he'll make the most impact. He'll make Scottie RJ and others look better as defenses have to adapt.

Adding in a 1b or 2a type scorer who can pass dribble shoot just makes life easier for everyone else.

[tsherkin]

I think our medical staff, one of the best, along with a long long recovery season where he didn't have to come back too soon is going to pay huge dividends.

He'll be a high usage guy for us in a system where the ball moves a lot.

23 6 and 5 about right for his stats, but its his impact on the team stats where I think he'll make the most impact. He'll make Scottie RJ and others look better as defenses have to adapt.

Adding in a 1b or 2a type scorer who can pass dribble shoot just makes life easier for everyone else.

Yep. I hope our staff, and BI's luck, hold up. It'd be a welcome change of pace for all involved. And yes, he will have immediate impact regardless of his personal performance. He will immediately be the best offensive player on the team, which will be a nice boost.

[Brinbe]

Regular season ball beyond ensuring a postseason ticket is meaningless. The Pacers ended up with no homecourt beyond the first round and it hardly mattered. Getting 50-60 games out of Ingram is perfectly fine if he's ready for the playoffs. Playing 2-4 games a week, especially b2bs, at the current level of intensity of NBA ball is a hard grind.

You see regular rotation as an accepted notion in top level European football as they know players will break down without rest.

And having a dynamic scorer like Ingram that can get his in midrange/isolation against most any defensive coverage will have a huge knock-on effect for the rest of the starting squad.

[Thaddy]

I wouldn't mind another forward if it means he can be rested. We need to keep him healthy for the playoffs. I don't think he's made for the NBA grind with his weak lower body. I'd be surprised if he ever hits more than 65 games.

We have a reaming ton of forwards, I don't think that will be of much issue, to be honest.

RJ, Dick, Walter, and Agbaji are more 2s than 3s. I rather have a player bigger than needed for the position than going undersized. For a championship I think anyone under 6'7 is too small for the position.

It's a position that needs a good combination of size and skill. That's a reason Barnes isn't really suited for it.

[tsherkin]

RJ, Dick, Walter, and Agbaji are more 2s than 3s. I rather have a player bigger than needed for the position than going undersized. For a championship I think anyone under 6'7 is too small for the position.

I'd like another quality center before worrying about that too much.

[Thaddy]

RJ, Dick, Walter, and Agbaji are more 2s than 3s. I rather have a player bigger than needed for the position than going undersized. For a championship I think anyone under 6'7 is too small for the position.

I'd like another quality center before worrying about that too much.

If you're big at every position it might be better than a tradition Gobert like C. I think that's why they're considering Queen.

All of our starters from PF to PG are all bigger than average. It makes fitting in a skilled undersized C easier.

If we really need a C we still have RJ, Dick, Walter, and Agbaji. We could trade one of them to get talent there.

[ArthurVandelay]

He should be a lot of fun. At his best, he's probably a top-3 scorer in franchise history... which is not a trivial thing. And he is a willing passer coupled to isolation skills and shooting ability, a real 3-level scorer who doesn't mind moving the ball. That should be fun!

#3 behind Prime Vince and Prime Kawhi is not trivial at all.

I'm impressed by the couple of tweets on this page. But is he really a better scored than DeRozan straight up?

Better than Raptor DeRozan I think

DeRozan continued to get better. He’s been an anomaly for the trajectory of his career. Just kept on improving into his 30s

[tsherkin]

If you're big at every position it might be better than a tradition Gobert like C. I think that's why they're considering Queen.

All of our starters from PF to PG are all bigger than average. It makes fitting in a skilled undersized C easier.

If we really need a C we still have RJ, Dick, Walter, and Agbaji. We could trade one of them to get talent there.

I think the trade is the best option. Right now, our C rotation is Poeltl... and Mogbo, I guess? It's not amazing past Yak. We aren't to get a Gobert-level guy, for sure, but we need another solid guy to fill some minutes for us.

Being large in the backcourt isn't going to help us in the way having a legit backup 5 will.

[Thaddy]

If you're big at every position it might be better than a tradition Gobert like C. I think that's why they're considering Queen.

All of our starters from PF to PG are all bigger than average. It makes fitting in a skilled undersized C easier.

If we really need a C we still have RJ, Dick, Walter, and Agbaji. We could trade one of them to get talent there.

I think the trade is the best option. Right now, our C rotation is Poeltl... and Mogbo, I guess? It's not amazing past Yak. We aren't to get a Gobert-level guy, for sure, but we need another solid guy to fill some minutes for us.

Being large in the backcourt isn't going to help us in the way having a legit backup 5 will.

I agree. We need to take BPA in terms of potential in the draft and disregard position. It very well could be Queen, I think it might actually be. But if someone like Johnson or Kon drops, it's a lot safer.

I think Dick is the biggest candidate to go. He's been underwhelming other than a handful of games. If we can get a 2nd pick for him to take Fleming I'd be all over it. He's undersized but the skills and versatile ability is there. A team can't like Mogbo and dislike Fleming.

Poeltl / Fleming / Yang
Barnes / Queen
Ingram / Mogbo / Agbaji
Barrett / Walter
Quickely / Shead

Probably flames out in the 2nd round but we could put together a good package in the future for a star.

I think having overall size is better than being small and with a 7 footer like Gobert

[tsherkin]

I agree. We need to take BPA in terms of potential in the draft and disregard position. It very well could be Queen, I think it might actually be. But if someone like Johnson or Kon drops, it's a lot safer.

I will admit to knowing almost nothing about players other than Flagg in this draft, so I can't really comment on that.

I think Dick is the biggest candidate to go. He's been underwhelming other than a handful of games. If we can get a 2nd pick for him to take Fleming I'd be all over it. He's undersized but the skills and versatile ability is there. A team can't like Mogbo and dislike Fleming.

He has a lot of work to do, for sure. Partial contest and his 3P% divebombs, which is as problematic as his defense, heh. The potential is there, but he's a guy on whose potential we might capitalize by moving him, maybe.

I think having overall size is better than being small and with a 7 footer like Gobert

Sure, but we need someone to help Poeltl get a breather (or spell us if Poeltl is injured). And we don't necessarily need a 7-footer, just a guy 6'9+ who can handle D at that position. It might be Mogbo, but he's balls on offense unless he's spoon-fed a dunk at this point, so we'll see, I guess.

[anotherhomer]

I agree. We need to take BPA in terms of potential in the draft and disregard position. It very well could be Queen, I think it might actually be. But if someone like Johnson or Kon drops, it's a lot safer.

I will admit to knowing almost nothing about players other than Flagg in this draft, so I can't really comment on that.

I think Dick is the biggest candidate to go. He's been underwhelming other than a handful of games. If we can get a 2nd pick for him to take Fleming I'd be all over it. He's undersized but the skills and versatile ability is there. A team can't like Mogbo and dislike Fleming.

He has a lot of work to do, for sure. Partial contest and his 3P% divebombs, which is as problematic as his defense, heh. The potential is there, but he's a guy on whose potential we might capitalize by moving him, maybe.

I think having overall size is better than being small and with a 7 footer like Gobert

Sure, but we need someone to help Poeltl get a breather (or spell us if Poeltl is injured). And we don't necessarily need a 7-footer, just a guy 6'9+ who can handle D at that position. It might be Mogbo, but he's balls on offense unless he's spoon-fed a dunk at this point, so we'll see, I guess.

i agree, i'm off the opinion that we should trade Gradey Dick

[Scase]

I can't believe we got Ingram for chump change.

People are sleeping on how much he's going to change our team.

No one has any reservations on his potential to help the team, the issue as always is, are we going to get more than 60 games out of him. Hard to change the team from the IR.

[littlerock2277]

After watching these playoffs. Forgot how important it is to have players who can make and create their own shots. Ingram will definitely be valuable for us next year. Hopefully he can work with Barnes on his isolation game.

[S.W.A.N]

I can't believe we got Ingram for chump change.

People are sleeping on how much he's going to change our team.

No one has any reservations on his potential to help the team, the issue as always is, are we going to get more than 60 games out of him. Hard to change the team from the IR.

That's fair.

I just think our medical staff is better than any he's had before. And having a long offseason like he's had gives him lots of time to be fully healthy. As long as we get 65 games and have him healthy for playoffs that is a win in my books.

[S.W.A.N]

I agree. We need to take BPA in terms of potential in the draft and disregard position. It very well could be Queen, I think it might actually be. But if someone like Johnson or Kon drops, it's a lot safer.

I will admit to knowing almost nothing about players other than Flagg in this draft, so I can't really comment on that.

I think Dick is the biggest candidate to go. He's been underwhelming other than a handful of games. If we can get a 2nd pick for him to take Fleming I'd be all over it. He's undersized but the skills and versatile ability is there. A team can't like Mogbo and dislike Fleming.

He has a lot of work to do, for sure. Partial contest and his 3P% divebombs, which is as problematic as his defense, heh. The potential is there, but he's a guy on whose potential we might capitalize by moving him, maybe.

I think having overall size is better than being small and with a 7 footer like Gobert

Sure, but we need someone to help Poeltl get a breather (or spell us if Poeltl is injured). And we don't necessarily need a 7-footer, just a guy 6'9+ who can handle D at that position. It might be Mogbo, but he's balls on offense unless he's spoon-fed a dunk at this point, so we'll see, I guess.

i agree, i'm off the opinion that we should trade Gradey Dick

Might be a little early to give up on Dick. He's a tough shot maker. That is an incredibly valuable skillset.

Obviously he needs to increase his defense in a big way but I think if he puts the same kinda work in this off-season that he did last year, he'll have a big year.

That said, if the right deal comes along, I'd be fine with making a move. We have good depth at the 2 and if we get someone back with equal upside... I'd do it