JayTWill wrote:KnixinSix wrote:JayTWill wrote:
I remember you proposing many trade scenarios for these players but did you ever think the Knicks would trade 5 firsts, a high 2nd and a swap for Bridges?
I never expected the Wolves to want Randle paired with Gobert and Edwards and I also never expected the Knicks to move DDV after the season he had and his relationship with Brunson. Were you the one proposing Randle, MItch and Hart for KAT AND Reid?
Have these trades gone down the way you expected they would?
The OG trade didn't seem impossible from an asset standpoint but it did feel like the 2 parties may have difficulty working together with the lawsuit and accusations of illegal activities.
The core of the matter was that the trades which a few not just Virginia thought were absolutely zero sum possibilities did in fact happen. The perspective here is understanding how teams look at their players relative to terms left on their contract coupled with the players desire to stay or leave the organization and the teams own desire to keep that player without losing them for nothing.
There is certainly enough there to believe that in JJJs case it will come down to what he wants. They can't sign him as a supermax and itkills the significant financial leverage they had. If he senses or gets backchannelled of our interest and he shows interest back, Memphis doesn't have much leverage PERIOD. Sure they can keep him for the year but they do it knowing they likely get very little back if anything once he is a FA.
Therefore to take all this in account in addition to him being CAA and the tight bond that Leon has with this kid, the very attractive destination our team has become , and that he is on the last year of the deal is a less than '10%chance' is a pretty myopic and/or narrow minded perspective.
Yeah there are some extreme opinions about the moves the Knicks can make. There are some that think some moves are impossible and then there is the other extreme of thinking a move can easily be made. If you are going to point out a move wasn't impossible you also have to acknowledge it cost a lot more than you may have expected and some of your valuations may be off.
Now we are getting somewhere. I never post these things as some kind of 90-100% scenarios but simply based on the combination of circumstances of the particular situation: player/team/contract/reports/rumors etc.
If enough things line up of the above it simply opens up a legitimate enough possibility worthy of discussion especially in a thread dedicated to possible trades and transactions.
Obviously noone is talking about guys like Antman, Tatum, Haliburton, Wembanyama, etc coming available because it just wouldnt make sense given an honest look at their respective situations as a whole.
But when you look at guys with one year left, or teams clearly looking to rebuild or shuffle their identity a bit, or a guy that didnt qualify for a supermax, or a guy that might want to leave his team etc. You see how many pieces line up and you simply state it as a hopeful possibility that who knows.... might start to percolate.
Another example. KDs is obviously extremely available yet with that said I kinda guessed he is lower on our list due to a number of reasons. In other words there are more ideal options for our vision, our current roster construction, fit in the culture etc. Thats why even though I recognized it isnt necessarily a 0 sum scenario and threw out a couple trade scenarios including him ....I also felt other guys were a better fit and said as much.
