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The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1901 » by NapoleonII » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:57 pm

Lost in the chaos:


We still need a point guard.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1902 » by TeamTragic » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:08 pm

We are not trading for Randle. Period.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1903 » by BobbieL » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:24 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:
Saberestar wrote:The latest from Gambo.

The Suns have an offer that they like but is giving the other suitors the opportunity to improve their offers.

He agrees with Shams on Wolves and Houston but for what he has heard the Heat's offer is not close. He said something like that, don't take my words literal.

He said that he has a good feeling about getting a good package for KD.

What his idea of a good package and mine/other people’s are vastly didn’t things.

Let’s remind people Gambo said the Suns had a great offseason in 2023 when they signed Vogel and all the trash players he tried to convince everyone were fantastic players to put around KD and Booker. How’d that work out fo Gambo and his propaganda?



thank y ou !!

The last two summers both Gambo and Flex were talking how the front office is playing 3D chess and veterans wanted to play with KD and Booker and not one of them were worth a damn.

I think the only good player moves were Dunn and Oso but that is grading on a curve as the vet free agents were all bad.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1904 » by Saberestar » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:25 pm

NapoleonII wrote:Lost in the chaos:


We still need a point guard.

Rob Dillingham could be our POTF.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1905 » by Saberestar » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:27 pm

BobbieL wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:
Saberestar wrote:The latest from Gambo.

The Suns have an offer that they like but is giving the other suitors the opportunity to improve their offers.

He agrees with Shams on Wolves and Houston but for what he has heard the Heat's offer is not close. He said something like that, don't take my words literal.

He said that he has a good feeling about getting a good package for KD.

What his idea of a good package and mine/other people’s are vastly didn’t things.

Let’s remind people Gambo said the Suns had a great offseason in 2023 when they signed Vogel and all the trash players he tried to convince everyone were fantastic players to put around KD and Booker. How’d that work out fo Gambo and his propaganda?



thank y ou !!

The last two summers both Gambo and Flex were talking how the front office is playing 3D chess and veterans wanted to play with KD and Booker and not one of them were worth a damn.

I think the only good player moves were Dunn and Oso but that is grading on a curve as the vet free agents were all bad.

All the media and fans thought that about our 2023 offseason. We were considered one of the favorites to win it all by all the critics.

It didn't work. Move on.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1906 » by Frank Lee » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:29 pm

I’m thinking Sparta is planning on drafting a PG … and thus a good pick is necessary

Have to find one somewhere
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1907 » by Saberestar » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:32 pm

Shams:

Just In: Houston Rockets center Steven Adams has agreed to a three-year, $39 million contract extension to stay with the franchise, sources tell ESPN. After playing a key rotation and leadership role in the Rockets' playoff run, the new deal keeps a top center out of free agency.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1908 » by dremill24 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:44 pm

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Poeltl and Barrett of course
maybe add Castleton or Shead


One thing about the Twolves - I read that they cannot make a trade as they are a second apron team until post July 1


Short of certain circumstances (pending FAs, partial guarantees, etc.), this isnt generally a big issue. Teams agree in principle to things between seasons that are executed after the July moratorium pretty frequently. One of the more recent, extreme examples would be the Bridges-to-Knicks trade last year. It was reported as an agreed upon trade on June 25 (before draft) but was not formally executed until July 6, to take care of salary matching and sign-and-trade components.

Need to refrain from physically signing any 2025 draft picks involved, if Im not mistaken, but I dont think its as big a hurdle as some make it out to be.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1909 » by Synyster9 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:47 pm

Saberestar wrote:Shams:

Just In: Houston Rockets center Steven Adams has agreed to a three-year, $39 million contract extension to stay with the franchise, sources tell ESPN. After playing a key rotation and leadership role in the Rockets' playoff run, the new deal keeps a top center out of free agency.


Does this move lessen the chances of them getting Durant with more money on their books now?
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1910 » by dremill24 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:57 pm

Synyster9 wrote:
Saberestar wrote:Shams:

Just In: Houston Rockets center Steven Adams has agreed to a three-year, $39 million contract extension to stay with the franchise, sources tell ESPN. After playing a key rotation and leadership role in the Rockets' playoff run, the new deal keeps a top center out of free agency.


Does this move lessen the chances of them getting Durant with more money on their books now?


I would guess it means they're confident in getting a deal done with VanVleet to decline his Team Option and sign a longer term deal at a lower salary. That would help them stay far enough below the second apron to maintain the ability to aggregate salaries in a trade, keeping the KD idea on the table IMO.

OR they let go of Landale and/or Holiday contracts (unguaranteed, team option) before the end of the month to compensate for the added salary that way.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1911 » by WuTang_OG » Sat Jun 14, 2025 7:16 pm

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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1912 » by bullsaficianado » Sat Jun 14, 2025 7:21 pm

No clue how Minnesota is the favorite. I am trying a bunch of trade scenarios with them for KD in ESPN trade machine and most of the trades are failing.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1913 » by TeamTragic » Sat Jun 14, 2025 7:38 pm

bullsaficianado wrote:No clue how Minnesota is the favorite. I am trying a bunch of trade scenarios with them for KD in ESPN trade machine and most of the trades are failing.


There are likely multiple teams (Grizzlies/Raptors) involved in the Wolves trade.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1914 » by bullsaficianado » Sat Jun 14, 2025 7:40 pm

TeamTragic wrote:
bullsaficianado wrote:No clue how Minnesota is the favorite. I am trying a bunch of trade scenarios with them for KD in ESPN trade machine and most of the trades are failing.


There are likely multiple teams (Grizzlies/Raptors) involved in the Wolves trade.


Yeah it would have to be multiple teams.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1915 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:41 pm

bullsaficianado wrote:No clue how Minnesota is the favorite. I am trying a bunch of trade scenarios with them for KD in ESPN trade machine and most of the trades are failing.


ESPN trade machine honestly sucks!
Try one of these:

https://fanspo.com/nba/trade-machine

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/trade-machine

https://basketball.realgm.com/tradechecker/
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1916 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:41 pm

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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1917 » by TeamTragic » Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:43 pm

Interesting. Royce or Grayson on the way out in a KD trade.

We are definitely dipping below the second tax apron.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

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Post#1919 » by Ghost of Kleine » Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:44 pm

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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#1920 » by TeamTragic » Sat Jun 14, 2025 8:46 pm

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