2024-2025 College Basketball / NBA Draft - Volume III

[okboomer]

The closer we get, the more I think the Sixers move up for Harper.

At what cost?

Clippers pick.

If he is player that many think he will be, which is an all nba caliber player, I dont see them trading this pick unless it's for a star player. Castle and Fox will never most likely never be a top 15 player. Having those two shouldnt hold them back from picking such a player with his potential. Im all for it though, just dont think the Spurs would foolish enough to trade this winning lottery ticket. They most likely wont have a chance to draft this high again.

[Arsenal]

At what cost?

Clippers pick.

If he is player that many think he will be, which is an all nba caliber player, I dont see them trading this pick unless it's for a star player. Castle and Fox will never most likely never be a top 15 player. Having those two shouldnt hold them back from picking such a player with his potential. Im all for it though, just dont think the Spurs would foolish enough to trade this winning lottery ticket. They most likely wont have a chance to draft this high again.

Depends how high they are on Fox. Fox was arguably a top 15 player at his peak and he is a terrible fit with Harper. They'll have to choose one or the other either now, or later it might get tougher because they will devalue each other if they play together.

Both require the ball in their hands all the time and both are useless off the ball. Fox couldn't even coexist with Haliburton, there's no way he and Harper can coexist successfully.

Throw a terrible shooter like Castle into the mix and it's easy to see all 3 guys coming out looking worse.

[okboomer]

Clippers pick.

If he is player that many think he will be, which is an all nba caliber player, I dont see them trading this pick unless it's for a star player. Castle and Fox will never most likely never be a top 15 player. Having those two shouldnt hold them back from picking such a player with his potential. Im all for it though, just dont think the Spurs would foolish enough to trade this winning lottery ticket. They most likely wont have a chance to draft this high again.

Depends how high they are on Fox. Fox was arguably a top 15 player at his peak and he is a terrible fit with Harper. They'll have to choose one or the other either now, or later it might get tougher because they will devalue each other if they play together.

Both require the ball in their hands all the time and both are useless off the ball. Fox couldn't even coexist with Haliburton, there's no way he and Harper can coexist successfully.

Throw a terrible shooter like Castle into the mix and it's easy to see all 3 guys coming out looking worse.

Fox is 8 years older and if they trade away Vassell in a KD trade, that's just more minutes they need for a guard. Most years Harper would be a perfectly fine selection as a number one pick. I dont think the Spurs will be so dumb to trade that away, and it seems like their local reporters who cover them think he will be the pick. Also have to factor in that Victor's injury is a health situation is tricky with blood clots, so having another All NBA player for the next decade is good insurance. If they want to trade it though, the 76ers are in great position to move up.

[Arsenal]

Looks like Spurs are out on KD so Vassell will be there. Vassell is the only one who can play with any of the other 3 because he can play off the ball and shoot.

Fox and Harper together, and especially with another negative spacer in Castle, will make all 3 look bad. They may want to get ahead of that by trading someone now. But we'll see.

[Negrodamus]

One funny observation is I feel like Morey uses Baylor prospects as leaks:

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I feel like we were linked to Jared Butler pre-draft.
Couldn't find anything on Keyonte George though.

[ProcessDoctor]

Usually, Morey isn't so telegraphed, and so the highly publicized VJ workout + dinner leak last week makes me wonder if VJ's actually not the pick. Makes me think he's trying to Hinkie the Hornets and take Ace at #4 + assets.

VJ is a perfect fit for the Hornets, while Ace + Miller is enough redundancy to maybe make Charlotte not want Ace. Time will tell.

[okboomer]

Usually, Morey isn't so telegraphed, and so the highly publicized VJ workout + dinner leak last week makes me wonder if VJ's actually not the pick. Makes me think he's trying to Hinkie the Hornets and take Ace at #4 + assets.

VJ is a perfect fit for the Hornets, while Ace + Miller is enough redundancy to maybe make Charlotte not want Ace. Time will tell.

The agent could have leaked it though, which happens often. Who knows, just all smoke.

[ProcessDoctor]

Usually, Morey isn't so telegraphed, and so the highly publicized VJ workout + dinner leak last week makes me wonder if VJ's actually not the pick. Makes me think he's trying to Hinkie the Hornets and take Ace at #4 + assets.

VJ is a perfect fit for the Hornets, while Ace + Miller is enough redundancy to maybe make Charlotte not want Ace. Time will tell.

The agent could have leaked it though, which happens often. Who knows, just all smoke.

Fair. I feel like the analytics and personality line up with Morey taking VJ, but the report last week was just so loud, which makes me skeptical. You're right though, if it came from his agent, then I still think he is likely the pick at #3.

[the_process]

Yeah and you and all the other geniuses knew beforehand that McCain should go top 5. Thanks Captain Hindsight!

Completely missing the point, as usual! Oops!

Do you think Kon Kneuppel should be picked #3 overall? YES or NO?

I'm a firm HELL NO.

Even if he ends up as the third best player in this class; if you want Kon, you trade down.

[mjkvol]

Completely missing the point, as usual! Oops!

Do you think Kon Kneuppel should be picked #3 overall? YES or NO?

I'm a firm HELL NO.

Even if he ends up as the third best player in this class; if you want Kon, you trade down.

My preference is to trade down somehow anyway, but the only players I might pick over Kon at #3 are Jaku and VJ.

[Negrodamus]

Usually, Morey isn't so telegraphed, and so the highly publicized VJ workout + dinner leak last week makes me wonder if VJ's actually not the pick. Makes me think he's trying to Hinkie the Hornets and take Ace at #4 + assets.

VJ is a perfect fit for the Hornets, while Ace + Miller is enough redundancy to maybe make Charlotte not want Ace. Time will tell.

Possible, however he’s never picked this high before so he might know he holds the obvious cards and is working out the top prospects. I mean Ace is working out this week, so I read into that?

Also, I honestly feel like Edgecombe is the perfect fit for us since we, first and foremost, don’t have a true penetrating facilitator on this team. We also lack the midrange rebounder that constantly kills us and reliable athleticism (not you Oubre) on the court.

[GutUNC]

The closer we get, the more I think the Sixers move up for Harper.

At what cost?

Clippers pick.

Yeah, and that's where I'm out. Harper is definitely better then the options at 3, but he's not a star.

[Jailblazers7]

I think the most likely reason for the VJ leak is that the Sixers genuinely like him as a prospect AND they’re trying to juice the trade market for any team looking to move up to 3. I don’t see why Maxey would be there if it’s all just a ruse.

[ProcessDoctor]

Interesting EPM write-ups and comps.

https://tawnyparkmetrics.com/TPM_Draft_Page

Top 5 EPM comps for each player (most to least similar):

1. Flagg: Jabari Smith, Otto Porter Jr., Franz Wagner, Brandon Ingram, Jayson Tatum
2. Harper: Jaden Ivey, Anthony Edwards, Cade Cunningham, Markelle Fultz, Gary Harris
3. Edgecombe: Donovan Mitchell, Jalen Suggs, Gary Harris, NAW, Marcus Smart
10. Bailey: Andrew Wiggins, Justin Lewis, Bilal Coulibaly, Robert Woodard II, Juancho Hernangomez

[Negrodamus]

https://tawnyparkmetrics.com/Nick_Draft_Page

Maybe I misunderstood this but was this from before the draft or is this actively updating with their performance in the league?

[Mik317]

some of the logic leaps yall make to make your points are so out there lol

"oh well this guy who is good went much later so you can't take this similar prospect any earlier than that"

"this guy is actually currently 19 or 20 and therefore is basically in his prime"

"this guy attempted to fit in on his WINNING team instead of working on things he's not good at...therefore he will never be able to do those things"


I just don't get it lol

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

The comparisons are comical at this point. People with agendas KNOW they can use **** comparisons and plant that seed because some people are dumb enough to actually form an opinion based on a comparison. Draft just needs to get here.

[Stanford]

The comparisons are comical at this point. People with agendas KNOW they can use **** comparisons and plant that seed because some people are dumb enough to actually form an opinion based on a comparison. Draft just needs to get here.

Hehehe

[okboomer]

some of the logic leaps yall make to make your points are so out there lol

"oh well this guy who is good went much later so you can't take this similar prospect any earlier than that"

"this guy is actually currently 19 or 20 and therefore is basically in his prime"

"this guy attempted to fit in on his WINNING team instead of working on things he's not good at...therefore he will never be able to do those things"


I just don't get it lol

Just others with agendas when the fact that both Tyrese and Jared were 20 when drafted. Yet if someone is 19 or 20 now that is too old .

[Iverson Armband]

Agree that the draft just needs to get here, so we can realize we’re all actually on the same team!