Rumors, Random Thoughts, and non-Threadworthy Posts 18.0 Dave Cowens drove a taxi

[Diop]

Rumored that Minny is soaring in the KD sweepstakes. Two possible frameworks.

Phoenix: Gobert and DiVincenzo
Brooklyn: Julius Randle
Minnesota: Nick Claxton and KD


Phoenix: Claxton and DiVincenzo
Brooklyn: Julius Randle
Minnesota: KD

I think the Minny trade would be:


Minny get Durant
Suns get Randle, 3rd team asset
3rd team get Naz (SnT)

there was a rumour that Suns wanted/liked Michigan players, would he be interested in Miles Bridges?

[Hook_Em]

Complete the value:

Pelicans get: PG/#3
Sixers get: Zion/Herb

[Devilanche]

The reason I say all of this, is that the draft comes before his opt-in deadline. If PHX demands to trade Durant at the draft, Randle can simply refuse to sign his extension early, and sign it later (or not at all) after KD is traded. He is likely the main salary component, so he needs to want to be in PHX, or somewhere he can get an extension.

A good way to play into the "selfish" and "me first" reputation he unfairly developed in New York and to make enemies of two of the biggest star players in the league.

That’s a ridiculous take . His contract has decision for him so he’s allowed to decide what is best for him.

[MoreyWins]

Houston gets KD
Brooklyn gets Jalen Green and #10
Phoenix gets Nic Claxton, Dillon Brooks, one of BKN's minimum deals, and BKN's two (or three) late firsts

[hoopsfan777]

Complete the value:

Pelicans get: PG/#3
Sixers get: Zion/Herb

Keeping Zion, building around him.

[MoreyWins]

Houston gets KD
Brooklyn gets Jalen Green and #10
Phoenix gets Nic Claxton, Dillon Brooks, one of BKN's minimum deals, and BKN's two (or three) late firsts

or the Rockets can give Brooklyn their future pick back so they can keep #10

[LarsV8]

Houston gets KD
Brooklyn gets Jalen Green and #10
Phoenix gets Nic Claxton, Dillon Brooks, one of BKN's minimum deals, and BKN's two (or three) late firsts

or the Rockets can give Brooklyn their future pick back so they can keep #10

No chance they give up a swap with the Nets. That could easily be a top 5 pick.

[MoreyWins]

Houston gets KD
Brooklyn gets Jalen Green and #10
Phoenix gets Nic Claxton, Dillon Brooks, one of BKN's minimum deals, and BKN's two (or three) late firsts

or the Rockets can give Brooklyn their future pick back so they can keep #10

No chance they give up a swap with the Nets. That could easily be a top 5 pick.

The only chance I could see that happening is if the Rockets absolutely love someone around the range of #10 and see them as a key piece for their future. That could be Coward or anyone in that area with upside as a quality starter or budding star.

[hoopsfan777]

Bobby Portis Jr. to Lakers or Suns for DFS or Grayson.

[pipfan]

Houston gets KD
Brooklyn gets Jalen Green and #10
Phoenix gets Nic Claxton, Dillon Brooks, one of BKN's minimum deals, and BKN's two (or three) late firsts

This is very interesting-if BRK wants Green/Thomas as their gunning backcourt. BRK should just collect assets now
Hell, if they wanted PWill we could throw my Bulls into this mix (#12/Port pick/PWill to BRK for #19/CamJ)

Suns add a C/SF combo to help now, and late 1sts (along with their own #29) to add depth

Hou competes with
FVV/Reed
Amen
KD/Eason
Smith/Eason
Sengun/Adams

They could easily find a SG to add depth/shooting

[zimpy27]

Houston gets KD
Brooklyn gets Jalen Green and #10
Phoenix gets Nic Claxton, Dillon Brooks, one of BKN's minimum deals, and BKN's two (or three) late firsts

I like it.
What pick can Nets get to with #10 and #8?

Can they get #4? Or #5?

[TheNetsFan]

Houston gets KD
Brooklyn gets Jalen Green and #10
Phoenix gets Nic Claxton, Dillon Brooks, one of BKN's minimum deals, and BKN's two (or three) late firsts

I like it.
What pick can Nets get to with #10 and #8?

Can they get #4? Or #5?

They should draft both. There's no value in trading up unless it's top 2. There's little difference in player value at 8 vs 4. The Nets need to come away with a couple big swings at high potential players in this draft.

[YayBasketball]

They should draft both. There's no value in trading up unless it's top 2. There's little difference in player value at 8 vs 4. The Nets need to come away with a couple big swings at high potential players in this draft.

Frok what i see on Nets twitter, fans seem to be high on Fears the most. Would be great to pair him with another high upaide swing like Essengue or Maluach.

How about D. Murray +7 for Cam J + 26 & 27?
Pels owner wants to go for playoffs and sell tickets, they don't have a long term view. Nets hwlp their rebuild.

Then i expanded it to include McCullom and Claxton swap. Seems neutral but maybe Nets keep pick 27 and give 36 instead? So it's:

#7, Murray, McCullom --> Nets
Cam J., Claxton, #27, #36 --> Pels

But then Pels need a PG. Dumars targets Sexron as a 'dawg' mentality thst reminds him of Isaiah. Olynyk + Hawkins + '26 IND 1st seems like fair value. Could throw them #27 if needed. But if it's roped into this Nets/Pels trade, then Olynyk doesn't have to be included, so Pels can keep him as a vet 3rd big and tradeable expiring, and Jazz can save the roster spot and extra cap space by raking only Hawkins and the '26 IND 1st back.

[Karmaloop]

Bobby Portis Jr. to Lakers or Suns for DFS or Grayson.

Don't think that's remotely salvageable for the Lakers. DFS is more valuable than Portis IMO, although are neither are overly valuable.

[YayBasketball]

They should draft both. There's no value in trading up unless it's top 2. There's little difference in player value at 8 vs 4. The Nets need to come away with a couple big swings at high potential players in this draft.

Frok what i see on Nets twitter, fans seem to be high on Fears the most. Would be great to pair him with another high upaide swing like Essengue or Maluach.

How about D. Murray +7 for Cam J + 26 & 27?
Pels owner wants to go for playoffs and sell tickets, they don't have a long term view. Nets hwlp their rebuild.

Then i expanded it to include McCullom and Claxton swap. Seems neutral but maybe Nets keep pick 27 and give 36 instead? So it's:

#7, Murray, McCullom --> Nets
Cam J., Claxton, #27, #36 --> Pels

But then Pels need a PG. Dumars targets Sexron as a 'dawg' mentality thst reminds him of Isaiah. Olynyk + Hawkins + '26 IND 1st seems like fair value. Could throw them #27 if needed. But if it's roped into this Nets/Pels trade, then Olynyk doesn't have to be included, so Pels can keep him as a vet 3rd big and tradeable expiring, and Jazz can save the roster spot and extra cap space by raking only Hawkins and the '26 IND 1st back.

#7, Murray, McCullom --> Nets
Cam J., Claxton, #27, #36, Sexton --> Pels
Hawkins, '26 IND 1st --> Jazz

*Nets and Jazz trade fske 2nd or something so all teams 'touch' in 3 team trade.*

Nets move up for another top lotto pick, securing them 2 of Fears, Essengue, Maluach, Knueppel, Jakucionis, Murray-Boyles, Queen, etc. They swap their two veteran contracts for two similar sized deals, McCullom who they could flip immediately or at the deadline, then Murray rehabs during this tank year, with chance to return to positive value play next offseason.

Jazz move on from Sexton, clearing room for their young guards and new draft picks. They get an extra first next year when they only have their own, and there's a chance the Pacers' pick could be decent if they have a hangover season next year, after 2 consecutive long postseason runs. Hawkins still has some potential as a movement shooter prospect. They get extra cap space for other moves later.

Pelicans, with a sell tickets and push for playoffs mandate from ownership, revamp their roster while keeping their core key players (Murphy, Herb, Zion, Missi, Alvarado) and key draft capital ( still have Bucks swap '26, best of Bucks/Pels in '27 and all of their own future 1sts).

Sexton gives them a playmaker scorer to take the load off Zion to create everything, they can have a handshake agreement on his next contract. Cam Johnson brings a vet elite shooter as an upgrade from McCullom (CJ1 to CJ2). Claxton adds rim protection and rim running with some switchabillity on defense. They take BPA with picks #27 and #36, like: Clayton, Kaulkbrenner, Yang, Thiero, Penda, Raynauld.

Claxton/ Missi/ Olynyk
Zion/ Matkovic/ #27
CamJ/ Herb
Murphy/ Reeves
Sexton/ Alvarado/ #36

[K_chile22]

I think at this point either the heat give up ware or KD is a rocket,

Tho it is interesting they're the only team repeatedly said to be in the mix where we've had zero reports of what's a potential offer so maybe there's nothing actually there

[hoopsfan777]

They should draft both. There's no value in trading up unless it's top 2. There's little difference in player value at 8 vs 4. The Nets need to come away with a couple big swings at high potential players in this draft.

Frok what i see on Nets twitter, fans seem to be high on Fears the most. Would be great to pair him with another high upaide swing like Essengue or Maluach.

How about D. Murray +7 for Cam J + 26 & 27?
Pels owner wants to go for playoffs and sell tickets, they don't have a long term view. Nets hwlp their rebuild.

Then i expanded it to include McCullom and Claxton swap. Seems neutral but maybe Nets keep pick 27 and give 36 instead? So it's:

#7, Murray, McCullom --> Nets
Cam J., Claxton, #27, #36 --> Pels

But then Pels need a PG. Dumars targets Sexron as a 'dawg' mentality thst reminds him of Isaiah. Olynyk + Hawkins + '26 IND 1st seems like fair value. Could throw them #27 if needed. But if it's roped into this Nets/Pels trade, then Olynyk doesn't have to be included, so Pels can keep him as a vet 3rd big and tradeable expiring, and Jazz can save the roster spot and extra cap space by raking only Hawkins and the '26 IND 1st back.

#7, Murray, McCullom --> Nets
Cam J., Claxton, #27, #36, Sexton --> Pels
Hawkins, '26 IND 1st --> Jazz

*Nets and Jazz trade fske 2nd or something so all teams 'touch' in 3 team trade.*

Nets move up for another top lotto pick, securing them 2 of Fears, Essengue, Maluach, Knueppel, Jakucionis, Murray-Boyles, Queen, etc. They swap their two veteran contracts for two similar sized deals, McCullom who they could flip immediately or at the deadline, then Murray rehabs during this tank year, with chance to return to positive value play next offseason.

Jazz move on from Sexton, clearing room for their young guards and new draft picks. They get an extra first next year when they only have their own, and there's a chance the Pacers' pick could be decent if they have a hangover season next year, after 2 consecutive long postseason runs. Hawkins still has some potential as a movement shooter prospect. They get extra cap space for other moves later.

Pelicans, with a sell tickets and push for playoffs mandate from ownership, revamp their roster while keeping their core key players (Murphy, Herb, Zion, Missi, Alvarado) and key draft capital ( still have Bucks swap '26, best of Bucks/Pels in '27 and all of their own future 1sts).

Sexton gives them a playmaker scorer to take the load off Zion to create everything, they can have a handshake agreement on his next contract. Cam Johnson brings a vet elite shooter as an upgrade from McCullom (CJ1 to CJ2). Claxton adds rim protection and rim running with some switchabillity on defense. They take BPA with picks #27 and #36, like: Clayton, Kaulkbrenner, Yang, Thiero, Penda, Raynauld.

Claxton/ Missi/ Olynyk
Zion/ Matkovic/ #27
CamJ/ Herb
Murphy/ Reeves
Sexton/ Alvarado/ #36

I like it.

[nolaPELSfan]

POR: Trey Murphy, #7, Dejounte

CHA: Scoot, Shaedon, Ayton, Matkovic, Hawkins, '26 NOP/MIL 1st

NOP: Lamelo, Bridges


then


Herb, Yves Missi, CJ, Jose, '26 Pacers 1st, '28 Pels 1st
for
Towns


Elf/Ball/Bridges/Zion/Towns
?

[hoopsfan777]

What does the Bane trade do for McCollum's value?

[Astaluego]

POR: Trey Murphy, #7, Dejounte

CHA: Scoot, Shaedon, Ayton, Matkovic, Hawkins, '26 NOP/MIL 1st

NOP: Lamelo, Bridges


then


Herb, Yves Missi, CJ, Jose, '26 Pacers 1st, '28 Pels 1st
for
Towns


Elf/Ball/Bridges/Zion/Towns
?

Frankly, I think it's a very bad trade for the Pelicans. That defense would be terrible. Why do you want to trade Murphy, Herb, and Missi and destroy the future of the Pelicans? How about something like that?

Murray + Pacers 26 to WIZARDS

Poole/Olynyc+ 7 +Bucks Swap 27+Future FRP(unp) HAWKS

T.Young to NOP

Trade 2..

Mccollum+2 SRP for Gafford/Martin/O-Max

Trae/Herb/Murphy/Zion/Gafford
Alvarado/Hawkins/Martin/FA/Missi
Payton/Reeves/Boston/O-Max/Matkovic