Trades and Transactions 2025 continued x2

[rajajackal]

i feel like both knicks and wolves would be okay with durant turning into cap space after his contract is up lol

[Capn'O]

If I were a betting man, I'd bet on the Rat.

[KnixinSix]

i feel like both knicks and wolves would be okay with durant turning into cap space after his contract is up lol

I don't think it's that simple for over first apron type teams

[NoDopeOnSundays]

i feel like both knicks and wolves would be okay with durant turning into cap space after his contract is up lol

We'd have no caproom regardless. Trading for him, and he ends up leaving, would be an unmitigated disaster that you can't recover from.

[RHODEY]

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Now we are getting somewhere. I never post these things as some kind of 90-100% scenarios but simply based on the combination of circumstances of the particular situation: player/team/contract/reports/rumors etc.

If enough things line up of the above it simply opens up a legitimate enough possibility worthy of discussion especially in a thread dedicated to possible trades and transactions.

Obviously noone is talking about guys like Antman, Tatum, Haliburton, Wembanyama, etc coming available because it just wouldnt make sense given an honest look at their respective situations as a whole.

But when you look at guys with one year left, or teams clearly looking to rebuild or shuffle their identity a bit, or a guy that didnt qualify for a supermax, or a guy that might want to leave his team etc. You see how many pieces line up and you simply state it as a hopeful possibility that who knows.... might start to percolate.

Another example. KDs is obviously extremely available yet with that said I kinda guessed he is lower on our list due to a number of reasons. In other words there are more ideal options for our vision, our current roster construction, fit in the culture etc. Thats why even though I recognized it isnt necessarily a 0 sum scenario and threw out a couple trade scenarios including him ....I also felt other guys were a better fit and said as much.

But still some of the scenarios you envision seem to be very unlikely sometimes. Last year you not only thought we could get KAT but we could also get Kessler for Randle, Mitch, Deuce and maybe Dadiet I believe.

This time you are suggesting things like the Wolves send back DDV who they really wanted for Mitch who they didn't want last summer and the Knicks are going to be able to replace Mitch by trading Mikal, some 2026 1st that doesn't exist and a couple 2nds for JJJ. [Edit - Mitch might be going to Phoenix in your scenario]

Part of your reasoning for Memphis being willing to trade JJJ is that he is on an expiring deal and may walk but for some reason they are going to really value Mikal's expiring deal despite him having the same ability to walk at the end of the season. Another team is also going to value an injury prone Mitch on an expiring deal too.

I'm not saying deals for DDV and JJJ can't be done but if they do occur they may cost more than you expected once again and then you have to decide if it is worth it at that point.

Well I guess we will soon find out. Nailing a deal for the exact pieces involved is tough but figuring out the clues thst the team will need and/or try to trade THAT particular player is one of the biggest parts. Guess what ? If they trade Rudy for KD suddenly an elite defensive 5 becomes a HUGE need for a Finch led squad. And KD does a lot of what Divo does just at a much higher level. So their needs would drastically switch. Knicks didn't want to send out DDV and were pushing for it to be Mitch. And now with his playoff performance his value is reesatablished much moreso than when they tried to trade him while hurt. Minny Divo was not that good either. So his value is down too.

Problem is where would the Knicks be in playoff without Mitch? If we move him anelite defensive 5 becomes a huge need for us.

[ctorres]

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KD to Minny with the Suns getting Mitch and the Knicks getting Donte?

Increased roles for Huk and Precious

[KnixinSix]

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But still some of the scenarios you envision seem to be very unlikely sometimes. Last year you not only thought we could get KAT but we could also get Kessler for Randle, Mitch, Deuce and maybe Dadiet I believe.

This time you are suggesting things like the Wolves send back DDV who they really wanted for Mitch who they didn't want last summer and the Knicks are going to be able to replace Mitch by trading Mikal, some 2026 1st that doesn't exist and a couple 2nds for JJJ. [Edit - Mitch might be going to Phoenix in your scenario]

Part of your reasoning for Memphis being willing to trade JJJ is that he is on an expiring deal and may walk but for some reason they are going to really value Mikal's expiring deal despite him having the same ability to walk at the end of the season. Another team is also going to value an injury prone Mitch on an expiring deal too.

I'm not saying deals for DDV and JJJ can't be done but if they do occur they may cost more than you expected once again and then you have to decide if it is worth it at that point.

Well I guess we will soon find out. Nailing a deal for the exact pieces involved is tough but figuring out the clues thst the team will need and/or try to trade THAT particular player is one of the biggest parts. Guess what ? If they trade Rudy for KD suddenly an elite defensive 5 becomes a HUGE need for a Finch led squad. And KD does a lot of what Divo does just at a much higher level. So their needs would drastically switch. Knicks didn't want to send out DDV and were pushing for it to be Mitch. And now with his playoff performance his value is reesatablished much moreso than when they tried to trade him while hurt. Minny Divo was not that good either. So his value is down too.

Problem is where would the Knicks be in playoff without Mitch? If we move him anelite defensive 5 becomes a huge need for us.

In this scenario....The assumption is you are replacong him with JJJ and then Huk gets more minutes too

[JayTWill]

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Now we are getting somewhere. I never post these things as some kind of 90-100% scenarios but simply based on the combination of circumstances of the particular situation: player/team/contract/reports/rumors etc.

If enough things line up of the above it simply opens up a legitimate enough possibility worthy of discussion especially in a thread dedicated to possible trades and transactions.

Obviously noone is talking about guys like Antman, Tatum, Haliburton, Wembanyama, etc coming available because it just wouldnt make sense given an honest look at their respective situations as a whole.

But when you look at guys with one year left, or teams clearly looking to rebuild or shuffle their identity a bit, or a guy that didnt qualify for a supermax, or a guy that might want to leave his team etc. You see how many pieces line up and you simply state it as a hopeful possibility that who knows.... might start to percolate.

Another example. KDs is obviously extremely available yet with that said I kinda guessed he is lower on our list due to a number of reasons. In other words there are more ideal options for our vision, our current roster construction, fit in the culture etc. Thats why even though I recognized it isnt necessarily a 0 sum scenario and threw out a couple trade scenarios including him ....I also felt other guys were a better fit and said as much.

But still some of the scenarios you envision seem to be very unlikely sometimes. Last year you not only thought we could get KAT but we could also get Kessler for Randle, Mitch, Deuce and maybe Dadiet I believe.

This time you are suggesting things like the Wolves send back DDV who they really wanted for Mitch who they didn't want last summer and the Knicks are going to be able to replace Mitch by trading Mikal, some 2026 1st that doesn't exist and a couple 2nds for JJJ. [Edit - Mitch might be going to Phoenix in your scenario]

Part of your reasoning for Memphis being willing to trade JJJ is that he is on an expiring deal and may walk but for some reason they are going to really value Mikal's expiring deal despite him having the same ability to walk at the end of the season. Another team is also going to value an injury prone Mitch on an expiring deal too.

I'm not saying deals for DDV and JJJ can't be done but if they do occur they may cost more than you expected once again and then you have to decide if it is worth it at that point.

Well I guess we will soon find out. Nailing a deal for the exact pieces involved is tough but figuring out the clues thst the team will need and/or try to trade THAT particular player is one of the biggest parts. Guess what ? If they trade Rudy for KD suddenly an elite defensive 5 becomes a HUGE need for a Finch led squad. And KD does a lot of what Divo does just at a much higher level. So their needs would drastically switch. Knicks didn't want to send out DDV and were pushing for it to be Mitch. And now with his playoff performance his value is reesatablished much moreso than when they tried to trade him while hurt. Minny Divo was not that good either. So his value is down too.

Yeah, I don't expect anyone to predict the deals exactly as they turn out but you can be a little overambitious at times Identifying potential moving pieces around the league is important but so is proper valuations and the needs of all parties involved.

You point out that Memphis could move on from JJJ because he is an expiring contract and a flight risk while ignoring all the other expiring contracts and flight risks involved in the deal including Mikal going to Memphis. It just feels like some of your views are skewed to just filling the Knicks needs and holes.

I'm just curious about your thought process.

You have so many moving parts in your trades. What is the actual trade proposal again?

[KnixinSix]

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KD to Minny with the Suns getting Mitch and the Knicks getting Donte?

Increased roles for Huk and Precious

The Divo domino first for Mitch then ....JJJ on the back end. Huk flashed and gets more playing time year 2.

[KnixinSix]

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But still some of the scenarios you envision seem to be very unlikely sometimes. Last year you not only thought we could get KAT but we could also get Kessler for Randle, Mitch, Deuce and maybe Dadiet I believe.

This time you are suggesting things like the Wolves send back DDV who they really wanted for Mitch who they didn't want last summer and the Knicks are going to be able to replace Mitch by trading Mikal, some 2026 1st that doesn't exist and a couple 2nds for JJJ. [Edit - Mitch might be going to Phoenix in your scenario]

Part of your reasoning for Memphis being willing to trade JJJ is that he is on an expiring deal and may walk but for some reason they are going to really value Mikal's expiring deal despite him having the same ability to walk at the end of the season. Another team is also going to value an injury prone Mitch on an expiring deal too.

I'm not saying deals for DDV and JJJ can't be done but if they do occur they may cost more than you expected once again and then you have to decide if it is worth it at that point.

Well I guess we will soon find out. Nailing a deal for the exact pieces involved is tough but figuring out the clues thst the team will need and/or try to trade THAT particular player is one of the biggest parts. Guess what ? If they trade Rudy for KD suddenly an elite defensive 5 becomes a HUGE need for a Finch led squad. And KD does a lot of what Divo does just at a much higher level. So their needs would drastically switch. Knicks didn't want to send out DDV and were pushing for it to be Mitch. And now with his playoff performance his value is reesatablished much moreso than when they tried to trade him while hurt. Minny Divo was not that good either. So his value is down too.

Yeah, I don't expect anyone to predict the deals exactly as they turn out but you can be a little overambitious at times Identifying potential moving pieces around the league is important but so is proper valuations and the needs of all parties involved.

You point out that Memphis could move on from JJJ because he is an expiring contract and a flight risk while ignoring all the other expiring contracts and flight risks involved in the deal including Mikal going to Memphis. It just feels like some of your views are skewed to just filling the Knicks needs and holes.

I'm just curious about your thought process.

You have so many moving parts in your trades. What is the actual trade proposal again?

There were a number of scenarios but mainly they involve Bridges as the centerpiece. Depending on how it all shakes out it could be Bridges, our 2026 #1 and a couple second round picks, it could be Bridges/Mitch, it could be Bridges/McBride with us as a follow up flipping Mitch for Divo. Lots of ways to slice it. Then maybe your MLE becomes someone like a Trent Jr or a Ben Simmons.

[JayTWill]

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Well I guess we will soon find out. Nailing a deal for the exact pieces involved is tough but figuring out the clues thst the team will need and/or try to trade THAT particular player is one of the biggest parts. Guess what ? If they trade Rudy for KD suddenly an elite defensive 5 becomes a HUGE need for a Finch led squad. And KD does a lot of what Divo does just at a much higher level. So their needs would drastically switch. Knicks didn't want to send out DDV and were pushing for it to be Mitch. And now with his playoff performance his value is reesatablished much moreso than when they tried to trade him while hurt. Minny Divo was not that good either. So his value is down too.

Yeah, I don't expect anyone to predict the deals exactly as they turn out but you can be a little overambitious at times Identifying potential moving pieces around the league is important but so is proper valuations and the needs of all parties involved.

You point out that Memphis could move on from JJJ because he is an expiring contract and a flight risk while ignoring all the other expiring contracts and flight risks involved in the deal including Mikal going to Memphis. It just feels like some of your views are skewed to just filling the Knicks needs and holes.

I'm just curious about your thought process.

You have so many moving parts in your trades. What is the actual trade proposal again?

There were a number of scenarios but mainly they involve Bridges as the centerpiece. Depending on how it all shakes out it could be Bridges, our 2026 #1 and a couple second round picks, it could be Bridges/Mitch, it could be Bridges/McBride with us as a follow up flipping Mitch for Divo. Lots of ways to slice it. Then maybe your MLE becomes someone like a Trent Jr or a Ben Simmons.

Are you talking about the 2026 Protected Wizards pick?

[spree2kawhi]

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KD to Minny with the Suns getting Mitch and the Knicks getting Donte?

Increased roles for Huk and Precious

The Divo domino first for Mitch then ....JJJ on the back end. Huk flashed and gets more playing time year 2.

This doesn’t make too much sense imo. We’re not getting JJJ if we don’t move Towns for him, which we shouldn’t. Hukporti isn’t ready for what this team is aiming at. I think we might get DiVincenzo for McBride, who has basically proven to be just as good as Divo but younger and may just be a better positional fit with Edwards. Just need to find a way salary-wise. Mitch is a movable contract for us, but he’s also a very, very good player to have. Hart, Bridges and Towns are so underappreciated here, it blows my mind. They’re keepers and they’re very good.

Actually, I don’t even see us making major changes. Horford and DiVincenzo would be my ideas, and I’m sure there are some very interesting veteran point guards out there, too. Kris Dunn or Davion Mitchell would be my choices, but they aren’t free agents, so it has to be a CP3, Corey Joseph, Westbrook type of thing if we don’t go back to our own guys. I hate CP3.

[RHODEY]

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Well I guess we will soon find out. Nailing a deal for the exact pieces involved is tough but figuring out the clues thst the team will need and/or try to trade THAT particular player is one of the biggest parts. Guess what ? If they trade Rudy for KD suddenly an elite defensive 5 becomes a HUGE need for a Finch led squad. And KD does a lot of what Divo does just at a much higher level. So their needs would drastically switch. Knicks didn't want to send out DDV and were pushing for it to be Mitch. And now with his playoff performance his value is reesatablished much moreso than when they tried to trade him while hurt. Minny Divo was not that good either. So his value is down too.

Problem is where would the Knicks be in playoff without Mitch? If we move him anelite defensive 5 becomes a huge need for us.

In this scenario....The assumption is you are replacong him with JJJ and then Huk gets more minutes too

but why? Mikal matches JJJs contract 1 for 1 ....Mitch can come off the bench.

[Reign23]

this obsession with donte is bizarre

[Reign23]

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damn minny being left out in the cold...

watch Pat the rat get him for expirings (Robinson, Rozier), Ware/Jaquez and 2 future firsts.

Mitchell / Herro / Wiggins / Durant / Adebayo would be a crazy dangerous mix of defense and shot making.

[spree2kawhi]

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damn minny being left out in the cold...

watch Pat the rat get him for expirings (Robinson, Rozier), Ware/Jaquez and 2 future firsts.

Mitchell / Herro / Wiggins / Durant / Adebayo would be a crazy dangerous mix of defense and shot making.

Certainly a good squad, but I wouldn’t fear them.

[spree2kawhi]

this obsession with donte is bizarre

This not being NBA2K goes both ways, and these players are human after all. Even regardless of the Villanova-thing, he’d be an incredible fit, and I don’t think it’s far-fetched at all. This is a very, very deep and strong roster:

Robinson / Towns
Towns / Horford
OG / Hart
Bridges / DiVincenzo
Brunson / whoever

That team goes straight to the Finals imo, no matter what other teams do over the summer. That bench is incredible. It is what we should actually focus on this offseason rather than acting like Durant wasn’t 37.

[Wildcat]

i feel like both knicks and wolves would be okay with durant turning into cap space after his contract is up lol

We'd have no caproom regardless. Trading for him, and he ends up leaving, would be an unmitigated disaster that you can't recover from.

Not that I disagree with you, but KD leaving and no Mikal resign (assuming the KD trade is got KAT), they'd be well under the 1st apron.

[Jalen Bluntson]

i feel like both knicks and wolves would be okay with durant turning into cap space after his contract is up lol

We'd have no caproom regardless. Trading for him, and he ends up leaving, would be an unmitigated disaster that you can't recover from.

Not that I disagree with you, but KD leaving and no Mikal resign (assuming the KD trade is got KAT), they'd be well under the 1st apron.

KD doesn't want the pressure. The Knicks aren't letting Mikal walk either. You don't trade 5 FRPs for a rental or future cap space. This scenario will never happen.

[Madskillzz024]

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100% build the bench over star chasing a KD or Giannis

Coby White could be a great addition off the bench if they can pull it off (CAA player as well).

If they move Mitch, Al Horford would be perfect with KAT