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Post#141 » by MasterGMer » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:29 am

Adding Jordan Poole would be great. We are all complaining there was no offense except Paolo and Franz. Now we can get one, Jordan Poole. Plus he won't cost that much which is the most intriguing to me compared to Simons and Reaves.

Is he a perfect player? Of course not. But he could fit with our core while retaining Jalen Suggs. Good deal!
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Post#142 » by thelead » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:41 am

Washington got Middleton, the Bucks 1st round rookie, and a future first for Kuzma. Why are people so certain Poole can be had for peanuts?
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Post#143 » by VFX » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:38 am

thelead wrote:Washington got Middleton, the Bucks 1st round rookie, and a future first for Kuzma. Why are people so certain Poole can be had for peanuts?


Because:

-Wizards need to get rid of him for their young back court. He eats up starting minutes from guys like Carrington and AJ Johnson. This becomes even trickier if they draft Tre Johnson, Kon, or Fears for some reason.

- His contract is absurd for the league perception of him at $30m. Not many teams need this kind of volume shooting starting point guard. Frankly not many teams need starting point guards that are either contending or rebuilding. Hes not a good contract for the next two seasons. Taking that on alone is kind of part of the deal.

I would be out on any Poole deal that involves this years firsts + future assets for the simple reason that Simons is a better acquisition that will absolutely cost Orlando a similar package plus at least a first.
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Post#144 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:39 am

thelead wrote:Washington got Middleton, the Bucks 1st round rookie, and a future first for Kuzma. Why are people so certain Poole can be had for peanuts?
If it were for KCP, Cole, and #25 or 2 seconds. That would save money because Cole has a team option for the next season. Both Cole and KCP are good enough to trade again. Plus, Washington is projected to pick Fears.

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Post#145 » by pepe1991 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:29 am

Wizards cons of trading Poole is them getting too good after they remove cancer and lose pick ( top 8 protected)
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Post#146 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2025 10:55 am

It's funny that you can't find any Warriors or Wizard fans who say Poole is a cancer.

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Post#147 » by T-Cat » Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:54 pm

Why not go after Chris Paul in free agency and find a way to get another top young prospect by trading up in the draft.

Anyone see that Dwight Howard and Lance Stephenson fight yesterday! That Big 3 league doesn't suit his play style, he's hurting his image even more.
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Post#148 » by yoyojw17 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 12:55 pm

VFX wrote:
thelead wrote:Washington got Middleton, the Bucks 1st round rookie, and a future first for Kuzma. Why are people so certain Poole can be had for peanuts?


Because:

-Wizards need to get rid of him for their young back court. He eats up starting minutes from guys like Carrington and AJ Johnson. This becomes even trickier if they draft Tre Johnson, Kon, or Fears for some reason.

- His contract is absurd for the league perception of him at $30m. Not many teams need this kind of volume shooting starting point guard. Frankly not many teams need starting point guards that are either contending or rebuilding. Hes not a good contract for the next two seasons. Taking that on alone is kind of part of the deal.

I would be out on any Poole deal that involves this years firsts + future assets for the simple reason that Simons is a better acquisition that will absolutely cost Orlando a similar package plus at least a first.

I love the moments when we see eye to eye. Haha

But yeah.... It's the opportunity costs that's important. He's cost controlled for 2 seasons ... We keep the current and future assets for the selection of players who can fill his role and other roles as well in the future.

If his mentality adjust into our culture... He is what we need. He I definitely a step up from CoJo. Supports the continued growth of our stars and possibly takes us a step forward.

Eventually he becomes an expiring contract in a year/year and half... Or if he continues playing well ... He finishes out the next season and can become cap relief as other players hopefully rise to fill his spot. Haha... The craziest thing would be if he changes and he becomes a keeper.

But yup... If a Cole + KCP is all it might take.... Sold.
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Post#149 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:37 pm

Poole isn't my first choice, but I think he could be had for quite a bit less than every other rumored target (Simons, Monk, White, Reaves) and there's something appealing about making a move that upgrades you and still having a lot of trade chips to cash in for upgrades at other positions.
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Post#150 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:14 pm

thelead wrote:Washington got Middleton, the Bucks 1st round rookie, and a future first for Kuzma. Why are people so certain Poole can be had for peanuts?


This basically means to me that Washington got salary fillers (Isaac/Anthony are better), Jett Howard and a complicated swap that will likely end up as SRP value so yes, I think he can be had for peanuts.
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Post#151 » by tiderulz » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:14 pm

T-Cat wrote:Why not go after Chris Paul in free agency and find a way to get another top young prospect by trading up in the draft.

Anyone see that Dwight Howard and Lance Stephenson fight yesterday! That Big 3 league doesn't suit his play style, he's hurting his image even more.

8 ppg, 7 apg, 40 yr old Chris Paul? thats what we are stooping to?
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Post#152 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:21 pm

Knightro wrote:Poole isn't my first choice, but I think he could be had for quite a bit less than every other rumored target (Simons, Monk, White, Reaves) and there's something appealing about making a move that upgrades you and still having a lot of trade chips to cash in for upgrades at other positions.


Yup. In the event KCP is retained in a Poole trade, Orlando comes into next summer with more than likely over $68M worth of expirings (if no other big moves are made).

It’s also a good proof of concept imo to see if Poole and his archetype/skillset bodes well with our system/players.
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Post#153 » by cedric76 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:31 pm

if you factor the contract , role and defence KCP>Poole
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Post#154 » by RichCollab » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:41 pm

basketballRob wrote:It's funny that you can't find any Warriors or Wizard fans who say Poole is a cancer.

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Attend a Wizard’s home game. You will find them being vocal all around you. I can’t speak for Warriors but I’m in DC.
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Post#155 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:51 pm

cedric76 wrote:if you factor the contract , role and defence KCP>Poole


This is not an opinion that most will share.

Plus the Magic could replace KCP's role and defensive production with NAW on the MLE.
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Post#156 » by VFX » Sun Jun 15, 2025 2:57 pm

cedric76 wrote:if you factor the contract , role and defence KCP>Poole


Not remotely the same skillset or need for this offense though.

Weltman said he’s open to trading defense for offense because Orlando is at the bottom of the league in that category.

$25m for a defensive specialist that takes 3 shots a game isn’t worth the contract compared to solving an entire offense at 2 years worth of risk.
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Post#157 » by Skybox » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:01 pm

tiderulz wrote:
T-Cat wrote:Why not go after Chris Paul in free agency and find a way to get another top young prospect by trading up in the draft.

Anyone see that Dwight Howard and Lance Stephenson fight yesterday! That Big 3 league doesn't suit his play style, he's hurting his image even more.

8 ppg, 7 apg, 40 yr old Chris Paul? thats what we are stooping to?



Not as THE savior...but as a MASSIVE upgrade to our team BBIQ and court vision.

You quote 7 apg dismissively - like we've had someone like that in the last decade.

It's 7.4 apg vs. 1.6 TO's, for the record...in 28 mpg. BTW, he only played in 82 regular season games out of 82 this season. 37.7% on 4.5 3pta's per game.

Not really on my list, but you could do a lot worse when looking at possible secondary moves.
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Post#158 » by Skybox » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:05 pm

Knightro wrote:
cedric76 wrote:if you factor the contract , role and defence KCP>Poole


This is not an opinion that most will share.

Plus the Magic could replace KCP's role and defensive production with NAW on the MLE.


I think they could and will easily replace KCP's production (on both ends) with Suggs first and, just as easily with Black.

KCP is a good player and should have some value out there...but the debate is pretty one-sided, I really don't know wtf Weltman was thinking signing him in the first place. He never filled a need (unless Weltman predicted Suggs' injury-riddled season) and, even if he did, why give him a 50% raise that his own beloved team wouldn't consider? It was a mistake - nothing personal KCP, but move on while he has some value around the league. We've already diminished it with out "Turn Shooters Into Non-Shooters" program this season.
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Post#159 » by RichCollab » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:13 pm

What about Bane????
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Post#160 » by pepe1991 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 3:14 pm

basketballRob wrote:It's funny that you can't find any Warriors or Wizard fans who say Poole is a cancer.

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Matter of fact Warriors fans were so desparate to get rid of cancer that one of trades that was on their board was Fultz + Carter for Poole and pick. Guys really wanted to pay first round pick and take worthless bum to cure cancer :rofl:


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Poole doesn't fit anything - he's a zero value add to this team and is a terrible roster fit on top of it, he sucks next to Steph, sucks next to Klay, he sucks off-ball, is an overdribbler who can't run offense and is a massive defensive turnstile, can't even defend a single position

literally nothing that he does fits this system, scheme or our personnel...this is has been a huge misnomer on this board for a while now and it needs to die, people are just enamored with a nice hesi move and the occasional 28 footer, otherwise no, he's adds nothing to this team and all impact metrics have been showing this virtually his entire career on this team.

mind boggling that we still have Poole stans on this board. it's weird af.



And that is type of guy Magic fans want.

Overdribbling, braindead fool who can't defend chair.

On top of that he costs $30M :banghead:
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