BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap)

[tiderulz]

Bane is on long term contract and very, very good player, but price tag for a guy that isn't clear cut superstar is flat out I.N.S.A.I.N.

That is type of haul you are proposing to get prime Durant, Lebron, Giannis, not fringe all star player that really isn't fixing some issues you already have on roster.

From salary cap POV, Banchero + Suggs + Franz + Bane = $160M in 2026-27

I guess our C rotation will continue to be Goga, Carter and Isaac for rest of this decade


Magic now have, from 2025-2031 - two first round picks. Not very valuable 25th pick ( way too late) and 2027 first round pick.

Scary.

Bane helps shooting issues. Bane adds to our shooting.
But Bane isn't very durable player, isn't really young ( 27, pretty much in his prime) and isn't full time playmaker.


Tbh this feels like panic move made by person who is in fear for his job. Esencially, this is Ibaka trade, just in this case Ibaka has more years left on his deal.
But Hennigan didn't sold 6 round picks for Ibaka, just one.

and a pick in 2029. and those picks given up would have been non-lottery picks anyways. East is so weak, we would be making the playoffs.
so we have 1st in 2025, 2027, 2029. And there is almost always a late 1st available for sale by some team.

Wish we had a bit more playmaking, but I'll hold off til i see the on court product. Bane avg'd 5+ apg for past 3 years.

His playmaking goes away in playoffs as Memphis never had offensive rating in playoffs ( with him as lead guy pretty much every season, split duty with Morant) - better than 5th worst, including the worst OFF rating this year.

4 first round picks with pretty much no protection, including Suns pick that can turn into very juicy one is still such an overpay for player that isn't clean cut superstar.

LIke, that trade frame was same as for Kevin Durant trade to Nets, when Durant was top 3 player.

We do it for guy who isn't even top 20.

As i said, this is panic trade made by person who can smell smoke as his as* is getting hotter on that hot chair, being in line to be fired.


Magic are now turning into top heavy team, with no bench and without any ability to add young , cheap talent other than second round picks ( imagine if somebody didn't treat them as picket money for owners... for 8 years... hm...)
Magic are now also in position to be in luxury, probably in second apron.

Without any pick to trade, to lower salary Magic will be in position to do their "Middelton for Kuzma and drafted player" sooner or later, because you can't keep second apron bill for longer than year without getting screwed by league.

Like, Magic salary cap in 2026-27 will be $190M for 6 players ( potentially more if Banchero, Franz, Suggs or Bane get their 5% bonus).

you keep saying "4 first round picks with no protection" but one of those is #16 this year, and the PHX pick is the leftover pick after Washington can swap, and from what i read top-8 protected. so its really 2 unprotected picks on a team that will compete for a top-4 spot in the playoffs. stop being melodramatic like we are giving up 4 top-5 picks. and unprotected pick in the 20's is just a pick in the 20's.

[basketballRob]

Bane could get into the top 10 EPM next season with Franz. Suggs will take the toughest guard assignment.

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[tiderulz]

KCP-WCJ-Cole-4 picks for Jalen Brown?

how does Orlando pay for his deal in the $50-60 mil/yr range?

[mattyBoi]

This is a good trade, don't get distracted by the volume of picks.

[jezzerinho]

Weltman gets criticised when he doesn't do anything, so I can understand why his backers would be exasperated that he's copping flak now that he makes a bold move.

But what I don't get is why we had to be the first domino to fall. Probably because Weltman knows he is no good at the wheeling and dealing so best way to not fail is to not take part.

I like Bane. I just don't see the fit, don't love the price and I hate the timing.

Eyriq will be over the moon tho!!!!

[pepe1991]

Bane is on long term contract and very, very good player, but price tag for a guy that isn't clear cut superstar is flat out I.N.S.A.I.N.

That is type of haul you are proposing to get prime Durant, Lebron, Giannis, not fringe all star player that really isn't fixing some issues you already have on roster.

From salary cap POV, Banchero + Suggs + Franz + Bane = $160M in 2026-27

I guess our C rotation will continue to be Goga, Carter and Isaac for rest of this decade


Magic now have, from 2025-2031 - two first round picks. Not very valuable 25th pick ( way too late) and 2027 first round pick.

Scary.

Bane helps shooting issues. Bane adds to our shooting.
But Bane isn't very durable player, isn't really young ( 27, pretty much in his prime) and isn't full time playmaker.


Tbh this feels like panic move made by person who is in fear for his job. Esencially, this is Ibaka trade, just in this case Ibaka has more years left on his deal.
But Hennigan didn't sold 6 round picks for Ibaka, just one.

Absolutely wild comparing this to the ibaka trade. Hard to take you serious sometimes.

Nets got Durant for same deal. In times Durant was top 3-4 player in the world.

We got Bane.

I compared it with Ibaka because it's panic, knee jerk reaction trade where Magic are adding player with name recognition and name value but not player that they actually need.

Desmond Bane is shooting guard. Who can pile up assists. In regular season. But can't run playoff offense.
Magic have Jalen Suggs. Who is shooting guard as well.

Adding another "part time playmaker" on a team filled with "part time playmakers" that nobody can actually make-plays, in playoffs doesn't solve much.
He is much better shooter/scorer than we had in past but main issue ( creation in half court, ball movment, playmaking) is still not solved. Nor now will be. Simply no more assets.

5 first round picks down the drain, and Magic still have no point guard. It was same like Ibaka trade in that sense, Ibaka had high name value, but Ibaka played same position as Gordon, as team had no SF ( nor PG for that matter) .

[3ddman23]

Could four first have gotten Orlando Jalen Brown?

No because those picks won't have much value like everyone is making it seem lol. It's wild.

You need actually value to aquire someone like brown. Like a legit top 5 to 10, pick. Nothing in this trade will be close to that.

[tiderulz]

That Phoenix pick might be a lottery pick

thats after Washington gets first pick swap rights.

[Knightro]

Also the bench is bottom 5 IMO. Relies entirely on Moe Wagner and he isn’t back until Christmas probably.

Kind of a joke tbh.

Good thing it's *checks notes* June 15th and not October 15th.

More moves will be made.

[tiderulz]

Bane is on long term contract and very, very good player, but price tag for a guy that isn't clear cut superstar is flat out I.N.S.A.I.N.

That is type of haul you are proposing to get prime Durant, Lebron, Giannis, not fringe all star player that really isn't fixing some issues you already have on roster.

From salary cap POV, Banchero + Suggs + Franz + Bane = $160M in 2026-27

I guess our C rotation will continue to be Goga, Carter and Isaac for rest of this decade


Magic now have, from 2025-2031 - two first round picks. Not very valuable 25th pick ( way too late) and 2027 first round pick.

Scary.

Bane helps shooting issues. Bane adds to our shooting.
But Bane isn't very durable player, isn't really young ( 27, pretty much in his prime) and isn't full time playmaker.


Tbh this feels like panic move made by person who is in fear for his job. Esencially, this is Ibaka trade, just in this case Ibaka has more years left on his deal.
But Hennigan didn't sold 6 round picks for Ibaka, just one.

Absolutely wild comparing this to the ibaka trade. Hard to take you serious sometimes.

Nets got Durant for same deal. In times Durant was top 3-4 player in the world.

We got Bane.

I compared it with Ibaka because it's panic, knee jerk reaction trade where Magic are adding player with name recognition and name value but not player that they actually need.

Desmond Bane is shooting guard. Who can pile up assists. In regular season. But can't run playoff offense.
Magic have Jalen Suggs. Who is shooting guard as well.

Adding another "part time playmaker" on a team filled with "part time playmakers" that nobody can actually make-plays, in playoffs doesn't solve much.
He is much better shooter/scorer than we had in past but main issue ( creation in half court, ball movment, playmaking) is still not solved. Nor now will be. Simply no more assets.

5 first round picks down the drain, and Magic still have no point guard. It was same like Ibaka trade in that sense, Ibaka had high name value, but Ibaka played same position as Gordon, as team had no SF ( nor PG for that matter) .

well, then i guess we wont have to worry about you on the ORlando boards complaining about everything since you hate this trade and dont want to see how ORlando does

[tiderulz]

Could four first have gotten Orlando Jalen Brown?

No because those picks won't have much value like everyone is making it seem lol. It's wild.

You need actually value to aquire someone like brown. Like a legit top 5 to 10, pick. Nothing in this trade will be close to that.

exactly. people making it sound like we gave up four top-8 picks. we trade #16, the leftover pick swap with PHX and two mid 20's picks. and also moved off KCP and Cole.

[Black and Blue]

This means one of two things, Suggs is being traded or the FO genuinely thinks Suggs is the PGOTF (lol).

This is the fascinating part to me.

Do they envision Suggs as the starting PG or is he on the block?

This is the first place my mind went. They had Suggs at PG last season when healthy so it’s within the realm of possibility they think that’s what he is, but…

I don’t know. The top heavy money in four players, the very obvious lack of a distributor…it would make the most sense to have another move or two up their sleeves. I’m on record with saying I envisioned Suggs getting traded as part of us bringing in a better roster fit at PG. This could be the first domino in that plan.

And that would be tough. The Magic fans would hate it, but the roster construction at some point has to work around Franz and Paolo and the Bane fit undeniably does that.

Curious if they aren’t done dealing.

That said, hell has officially frozen over because I agree with tiderulez for once! I really like this move and I think people are so focused on the name itself and the picks they don’t see how perfect a fit this for all that ails this team. Bottom line is in a weak east this team just got a ton better. And Bane will be a fan favorite, that’s a given if he produces like he has.

Want to see if there is any word whether the team is still going to be active. If they find a way to reshape the PG and C positions, this team could be ready to rock on a new level. That’s a big, big if though.

[Skybox]

First, let's stop calling #16 "unprotected". Second, the PHX pick swap, while potentially valuable was gotten for peanuts...doesn't discount the magnitude of this, but let's chill on the whole "we traded every pick ever" stuff.

I'm going to step up and say KUDOS to Weltman for the ballsy move and I love that it got done on June 15, with 10 days until the draft...I don't think he's done.

I'm concerned about the fit and the finances, but let's keep watching.

[jezzerinho]

I wonder if this hints we have an agreement in principle to sign Chris Paul?

[Blazers20]

Bane makes nearly as much as Ja

[Knightro]

One other thing, if you are anti-tanking, the fact that the Magic gave away their 2028 and 2030 picks unprotected means they're not blowing up anything anytime soon.

[Airgordon00]

Alright so now that we got Bane do we trade Suggs for a true PG or do we make some minor moves on the edges?

[Tarheel]

But what I don't get is why we had to be the first domino to fall. Probably because Weltman knows he is no good at the wheeling and dealing so best way to not fail is to not take part

Keith Smith said on Twitter that it’s to do with salaries. Deal needed to be done ahead of the year ticking over on 1 July to avoid us having apron issues.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Why are we giving up unprotected picks for Desmond Banes?

[VFX]

Also the bench is bottom 5 IMO. Relies entirely on Moe Wagner and he isn’t back until Christmas probably.

Kind of a joke tbh.

Good thing it's *checks notes* June 15th and not October 15th.

More moves will be made.

WE WILL SEE