BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap)
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
I’m seeing a lot of posts about how “now we need a true PG”.
Our leadership seems to be big believers in position-less basketball. Yes, we need guys to run the offense and facilitate, but does that have to be the classical one guy job with a specialized title?
With that in mind, Bane is clear upgrade to the roster as a playmaker. While shooting was the obvious need, his all around game, including playmaking, was surely what put him at the top of their target list.
Our leadership seems to be big believers in position-less basketball. Yes, we need guys to run the offense and facilitate, but does that have to be the classical one guy job with a specialized title?
With that in mind, Bane is clear upgrade to the roster as a playmaker. While shooting was the obvious need, his all around game, including playmaking, was surely what put him at the top of their target list.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
I think this is a good trade. Bane is a really good player and you'd be happy to hit on a guy like him over the course of four draft picks. I don't think it's a panic move. We're trying to win and we traded accumulated assets for a legitimate talent in his prime. I'm not saying it's the best trade ever made and the best value ever gotten in a trade. But I think it's a good trade for us.
11/18/2017 - I have officially disowned Nikola Vucevic and branded him a loser.
- Skal Labissiere was my guy in 2016 pre-trade. Whoops, but I still believe.
- Malik Monk was my guy in 2017. Whoops(?)
- Mo Bamba was my guy in 2018. TBD.
- Skal Labissiere was my guy in 2016 pre-trade. Whoops, but I still believe.
- Malik Monk was my guy in 2017. Whoops(?)
- Mo Bamba was my guy in 2018. TBD.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
mattyBoi wrote:The players we traded were salary filler. KCP and Cole were awful last year.
2025 pick - no big deal, we still have 25
2026 pick - this is the gem of the deal, probably a top 10 pick
2028 pick - will likely not be a lottery pick
2030 pick - will likely not be a lottery pick
For one of the best SG in the league. This is a great deal. GREAT. Finally Weltman.
This is more or less how I think about it. People saying we traded “two decent players” + 4 firsts are delusional imo.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
pepe1991 wrote:For f*** sake and 2026 pick swap.
"TOP 8 " DOES NOT MEAN SUNS KEEP PICK IF IT'S TOP 8, TOP 8 IS REFERENCE FOR WIZARDS PART OF A DEAL AS THEY DON'T "OWN" 2026 PICK, IT GOES TO KNICKS IF IT FALL FROM THAT TOP 8 PROTECTION.
But Wizards just won 18 games and are least talented nba team, so their part of the deal is going anywhere.
Pepe is correct.
The Wizards have the right to swap with the Suns first and THAT swap is "top 8 protected" because the Wizards owe the Knicks a pick.
However, it's highly likely the Wizards will be worse than the Suns which will make their swap not matter.
The Magic, after the Wizards have either swapped OR THEIR SWAP DID NOT CONVEY, have the right to swap with the Suns unprotected.
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I was hoping we'd do some sort of Suggs for Garland swap but this is way better. The East is wide open and we are ready to go get it!
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
All-in trade is shocking. Bane is a perfect fit. We are DANGEROUS.
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My head will explode from this 2026 crap.
TOP 8 PICK IS NOT REFERD TO SUNS PROTECTION.
Top 8 is reference to Wizards part of the deal, as they don't own 2026 pick, it goes to Knicks if it falls outside protection of top 8.
If in some scenario Suns win lottery, and Wizards have 9th pick, in past Magic, now Grizzlies will have ability to swap pick and have 1st overall pick.
Suns have no ability to control pick swaps nor any protection on it.
This is why whole media is refering to our trade as 4 UNPROTECTED PICKS.
2026- unprotected ( if WIzards are involved pick can't only be 1# pick, but can be 2-29, if Wizards lose pick it can be 1-29 pick)
2028- unprotected
2030 - unprotected
2027- top 2 protected pick swap ( meaning, pick is unprotected if it falls between 3-29 )
TOP 8 PICK IS NOT REFERD TO SUNS PROTECTION.
Top 8 is reference to Wizards part of the deal, as they don't own 2026 pick, it goes to Knicks if it falls outside protection of top 8.
If in some scenario Suns win lottery, and Wizards have 9th pick, in past Magic, now Grizzlies will have ability to swap pick and have 1st overall pick.
Suns have no ability to control pick swaps nor any protection on it.
This is why whole media is refering to our trade as 4 UNPROTECTED PICKS.
2026- unprotected ( if WIzards are involved pick can't only be 1# pick, but can be 2-29, if Wizards lose pick it can be 1-29 pick)
2028- unprotected
2030 - unprotected
2027- top 2 protected pick swap ( meaning, pick is unprotected if it falls between 3-29 )
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
Knightro wrote:At this point, I am all in on using the full MLE for another upgrade.
Try and win the Eastern Conference next year.
Can we get Tyus Jones for MLE?
Fire Weltman!
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- Draft Walter Clayton Jr at #25
- Use MLE on Big Man
- Use MLE on Big Man
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
Really great fit for Orlando’s needs.
Still missing a true PG tho and like everyone else said, 5 FRPs for a non-all star is a big pill to swallow. I like Orlando, so hope it all works out for you and he doesn’t come in and see his stats drop to a 16-18ppg player…
Still missing a true PG tho and like everyone else said, 5 FRPs for a non-all star is a big pill to swallow. I like Orlando, so hope it all works out for you and he doesn’t come in and see his stats drop to a 16-18ppg player…
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Weltman got squeezed a bit here but we still can draft walter clayton jr and 2026 we still have our own pick no?
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
Like everyone else I’m not crazy about the picks, but I like the players swapped. Got rid of dead weight replacing KCP with Bane is a win. I’d like to think the team isn’t done dealing.
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There's 2 different reactions so far.
1- people love it
2- people hate it
And then there's me screaming with such glee and joy that I never have to watch Cole in a magic uniform ever again!!!
1- people love it
2- people hate it
And then there's me screaming with such glee and joy that I never have to watch Cole in a magic uniform ever again!!!
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
Immediate positives:
We get a bit younger as Bane fits the timeline much better than KCP.
We no longer live and die by Cole’s inconsistent play.
We get a bit younger as Bane fits the timeline much better than KCP.
We no longer live and die by Cole’s inconsistent play.

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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
The past Magic acquisition to compare this to is the Rashard Lewis sign-and-trade. It was viewed as a huge overpay, but he went on to be a key part of a contending core for years.
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They could now try to go for an upgrade at starting C or focus on bench depth. A true PG off the bench would be great.
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anothermagicfan wrote:There's 2 different reactions so far.
1- people love it
2- people hate it
And then there's me screaming with such glee and joy that I never have to watch Cole in a magic uniform ever again!!!
That means it’s a legitimate big swing trade - if the reactions were more muted then it would be just another rearranging the deck chairs type thing
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:All the assets we acquired over the years and we used some for Desmond Bane? This was one of my worst fears giving away more than what was necessary. I bet he’ll come in and average less than his career average or get some kind of injury because that’s how it always goes for us.
Well his averages over the past 4 years (since he became a full time starter) are 20/5/4..........yeah ill assume those go down considering hes now the 3rd or 4th option behind 2 guys who both averaged over 24ppg last year, thats to be expected
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks)
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:All the assets we acquired over the years and we used some for Desmond Bane? This was one of my worst fears giving away more than what was necessary. I bet he’ll come in and average less than his career average or get some kind of injury because that’s how it always goes for us.
What assets though???? They gave up salary filler and a few picks that are mostly gonna be in the 20s. The only thing that may actually pan out for Memphis is that pick swap in 26.
Like it's really not bad for an all star caliber player in his prime.
You don't get superstars for these packages anymore.
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