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BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap)

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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#201 » by pepe1991 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:44 pm

FFBlitzace wrote:I don't think it's guaranteed the Suns will completely suck. I don't see them as contenders by any means, but it seems like they're going to try to be a playoff team. Their top heavy talent didn't mix, and it was a big bust for them. But they'll get something back for Durant and still have Booker and Beal. It's not like they will be so devoid of talent that they just can't win a game. It will probably be a decent pick, but I don't think they're landing super high in the draft without another lottery miracle.


It's more about West.

48-34.

That was mandatory minimum to make playoffs on West.

I assume they can get Castle + Barnes + 2( 3? / 2025 pick, can't recall what they have) or Wiggins + Ware , regardless there is very little chance that Suns can be competitive on this West.

Plus, both Blazers and Spurs will surpass them this year, making them at best tie for 12# best team in conference. There is no chance in hell they can make playoffs.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#202 » by CalOrl11 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:45 pm

I really like Bane for this team, he fits one of our main needs. 4 unprotected firsts maybe a bit much but Weltman has banked on us being a very good team from next season, so hopefully the will end up being what no better than pick 19? I did like us having the Suns picks so it's a shame to see that being shipped out.

Overall I'm a fan of the trade but would expect more moves to be made.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#203 » by mattyBoi » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:45 pm

The year is 2030. We look back and see that in hindsight, the Magic traded:

2025 #16 pick
2026 #9 pick
2028 #28 pick
2030 #25 pick
Cooked KCP
Cooked Cole

For Desmond Bane under contract during his prime years. A 20ppg sniper three point shooter that elevated the roster. One of the best SG in the Eastern Conference. In fact in 2030, he is still in prime form.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#204 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:46 pm

PSA: The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick in this upcoming draft until after the pick is made since they traded away their 2026 1st.

So if they're trading it away, it would be post draft.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#205 » by SOUL » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:46 pm

As far as recouping value/picks/whatever, if we fail with this core then obviously one or two of Paolo/Franz/Suggs are being moved so there ya go :lol:
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#206 » by jonbob17 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:46 pm

FFBlitzace wrote:I don't think it's guaranteed the Suns will completely suck. I don't see them as contenders by any means, but it seems like they're going to try to be a playoff team. Their top heavy talent didn't mix, and it was a big bust for them. But they'll get something back for Durant and still have Booker and Beal. It's not like they will be so devoid of talent that they just can't win a game. It will probably be a decent pick, but I don't think they're landing super high in the draft without another lottery miracle.


The West is tough. Phoenix would have to get back something really useful. With that said they don't own any of their picks so its not like they can tank. They kind of have to play it out, unless they could get their picks back from Houston (for Durant or Booker)
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#207 » by FFBlitzace » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:46 pm

I don't like the comparison to the Ibaka trade at all. We gave up Oladipo in that trade, an actual good young player we had used the #2 pick on. And Ibaka was brought in basically to be our best player, which is laughable. In this trade, we're not really giving up any existing players, only theoretical future players. Which are valuable, but the point is, I don't think these two trades are comparable at all.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#208 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:48 pm

JF5 wrote:Well guys you wanted a big move and we got it. I'm happy about this trade. REALLY happy
I know you're really happy that we didn't need to include Black!

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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#209 » by ORLMagicGirl15 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:48 pm

jonbob17 wrote:
ORLMagicGirl15 wrote:Not only is this a horrible trade but if Orlando get a starting point guard we are going to have either Suggs or Bane’s making $30million+ coming off the bench.


Suggs is the "Point Guard". If for somereason, they upgraded PG, it would involve Suggs, but that's highly unlikely.

He cannot play point. We’re going into his 5th year with this knowledge.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#210 » by thelead » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:48 pm

Knightro wrote:PSA: The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick in this upcoming draft until after the pick is made since they traded away their 2026 1st.

So if they're trading it away, it would be post draft.

I’m hoping Clayton Jr is there for us.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#211 » by TSonn » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:49 pm

I have little faith in Orlando to draft a guy as good as Bane with any of those picks (AB, Jett, Tristan are all good examples and likely all higher picks).

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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#212 » by thelead » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:50 pm

eyriq wrote:
VFX wrote:So let me get this straight Weltman upgraded

Gary Harris
To
KCP
To
Bane

In 3 seasons and Orlando still doesn’t have a point guard on the roster.

He still doesn’t get that the offense is bad because of ball movement.


He “doesn’t get it” because the offense isn’t bad due to ball movement — it’s bad because we can’t shoot.

That theory will be put to the test this season.

My guess? If this doesn’t work, we’ll see a Suggs for Garland type of move.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#213 » by pepe1991 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:54 pm

If we use MLE it will hard cap us at $195,6M i believe? Meaning, they probably won't use it.

We have what, $177M of cap space now , in between 10 men, so keeping pick, maybe retaining Houstan and trying to talk Mortiz into taking smaller , shorter deal?

I have no clue, that 25th pick probably now has more value to us than the others, because we need some lower level cheap contracts.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#214 » by CalOrl11 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:54 pm

Also why are NBA fans acting like Cole Anthony is all a sudden a good player and the Grizziles did well to get him?
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#215 » by fendilim » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:55 pm

Gawd. I hope we get a big at 25th. And trade wcj or goga for a solid pg.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#216 » by VFX » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:55 pm

thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:PSA: The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick in this upcoming draft until after the pick is made since they traded away their 2026 1st.

So if they're trading it away, it would be post draft.

I’m hoping Clayton Jr is there for us.


He is a forgone conclusion IMO unless another move is made. About as sure of it as TDS pick.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#217 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:56 pm

VFX wrote:
thelead wrote:
Knightro wrote:PSA: The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick in this upcoming draft until after the pick is made since they traded away their 2026 1st.

So if they're trading it away, it would be post draft.

I’m hoping Clayton Jr is there for us.


He is a forgone conclusion IMO unless another move is made. About as sure of it as TDS pick.


There's a clear spot for him now with Cole gone.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#218 » by VFX » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:57 pm

Knightro wrote:
VFX wrote:
thelead wrote:I’m hoping Clayton Jr is there for us.


He is a forgone conclusion IMO unless another move is made. About as sure of it as TDS pick.


There's a clear spot for him now with Cole gone.


I will be astonished if it isn’t him selected. Honestly.
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Post#219 » by thelead » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:59 pm

VFX wrote:
Knightro wrote:
VFX wrote:
He is a forgone conclusion IMO unless another move is made. About as sure of it as TDS pick.


There's a clear spot for him now with Cole gone.


I will be astonished if it isn’t him selected. Honestly.

It’s not guaranteed that he’ll be there for us at 25. There’s a chance for sure though.
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Re: BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 unprotected picks) 

Post#220 » by KokoKaizer » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:02 pm

mattyBoi wrote:The players we traded were salary filler. KCP and Cole were awful last year.

2025 pick - no big deal, we still have 25
2026 pick - this is the gem of the deal, probably a top 10 pick
2028 pick - will likely not be a lottery pick
2030 pick - will likely not be a lottery pick

For one of the best SG in the league. This is a great deal. GREAT. Finally Weltman.


Someone got it at least

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