Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap...

Moderators: cupcakesnake, bwgood77, zimpy27, infinite11285, Clav, Domejandro, ken6199, bisme37, Dirk, KingDavid

3ddman23
RealGM
Posts: 10,754
And1: 3,381
Joined: Jul 02, 2013
Location: orlando
   

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#221 » by 3ddman23 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:49 pm

I can believe people are hell bent on picks that are going to most likely be in the 20s. Only really cause they got was that 2026 weird Phoenix pick swap.

Like stop looking at the wording and actually break it down. It's not bad at all. For Christ sake pick 16 this year is not unprotected. 2029 is a pick swap the magic still get a first rounder.
GO MAGIC
User avatar
Hoop Hunter
Starter
Posts: 2,290
And1: 3,091
Joined: Feb 19, 2002
   

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#222 » by Hoop Hunter » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:50 pm

He's still got really, really short arms, they swoll up though.

Seriously, he's gonna help them a lot. He can really shoot it.

# of draft picks is beyond my paygrade. Could workout just fine. What's wrong with Suggs playing PG?
“He’s not afraid of the moment, he is The Moment!” — Richard Jefferson on Tyrese Haliburton
User avatar
ProcessDoctor
RealGM
Posts: 11,691
And1: 6,436
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
   

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#223 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:50 pm

3ddman23 wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:This is a Mikal Bridges-level heist by Memphis.


And u see how that nearly worked out for Knicks right...


Yes, because of the Karl-Anthany Towns acquisition.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
Walmart
Starter
Posts: 2,495
And1: 1,461
Joined: Apr 26, 2007

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#224 » by Walmart » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:51 pm

With the new cap rules they overpaid by 2 1sts and a pick swap.
BAMAFREAK
Rookie
Posts: 1,166
And1: 1,624
Joined: Feb 27, 2017
   

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#225 » by BAMAFREAK » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:51 pm

Love Bane, he’s a great fit for Orlando offensively and they can make up for his lack of defensive tools. He’s tough and an elite shooter.
For my Grizz, whom a lot of us have been pissed at since the trade deadline, bravo. We just loaded up the warchest in one single move. Should get a solid prospect at 16 and a few of the futures, especially next year Suns, could be juicy.
Also, I’m not sure this doesn’t make our team a smidge better….KCP is a great fit and Anthony gives us some more depth. Offense was 100% not the problem last year and hopefully KCP can help out defensively.
I love the deal
User avatar
Prez
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 27,331
And1: 44,669
Joined: Jan 26, 2015
 

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#226 » by Prez » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:51 pm

We continue to get these Bridges, Gobert, now Bane type trades and each time it just makes the Giannis proposals I’ve seen so much funnier.
JujitsuFlip
RealGM
Posts: 15,219
And1: 9,400
Joined: Sep 10, 2021

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#227 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:52 pm

SOUL wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:
SOUL wrote:RealGM fans jerking off pick trades again name a better combo


Do you not think this is a significant overpay?


Overpay yes, significant? To be seen. We still have our entire core.

I think every board overrates picks. I was defending the Gobert/Mikal trades while 99% of people were reacting this same way.

I'll take a 26 year old 22/5/5 guy on 48/41/90 to a team desperate for shooting.

We still need point guard play, but I think we should or could use our MLE to get that in addition to already having Suggs/Bane/AB/Franz/Paolo all handle the ball.
You guys are a 2nd apron team today.

Obviously declining the combined $13 million owed to Harris, Joseph, and Houstan helps get ya outta that but I doubt you all use the MLE or if you do, obviously will only be a tiny part of it.
User avatar
littlerock2277
Bench Warmer
Posts: 1,311
And1: 1,585
Joined: Jul 15, 2010
Location: Anywhere in T-DOT
 

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#228 » by littlerock2277 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:53 pm

That Anthony Davis and Paul George trade has really set the stranded of teams demanding for many picks. At least those trades you could argue they are all nba caliber players.

Prior to that superstars were barely fetching teams more than 2 first round picks. This 2020 decade has really set market on 1st round picks. Honestly by 2030 I will expect 60 percent to not have control over any of their picks. Guys like Beal Bridges and bane are getting your more than 4 first round picks.

If I am the bucks and are ever looking to trade Gianass I would demand at the bare minimum 6 1sts from a team.
Image
User avatar
thelead
RealGM
Posts: 46,946
And1: 30,486
Joined: Apr 08, 2008
 

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#229 » by thelead » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:54 pm

JujitsuFlip wrote:
SOUL wrote:
NyKnicks1714 wrote:
Do you not think this is a significant overpay?


Overpay yes, significant? To be seen. We still have our entire core.

I think every board overrates picks. I was defending the Gobert/Mikal trades while 99% of people were reacting this same way.

I'll take a 26 year old 22/5/5 guy on 48/41/90 to a team desperate for shooting.

We still need point guard play, but I think we should or could use our MLE to get that in addition to already having Suggs/Bane/AB/Franz/Paolo all handle the ball.
You guys are a 2nd apron team today.

Obviously declining the combined $13 million owed to Harris, Joseph, and Houstan helps get ya outta that but I doubt you all use the MLE or if you do, obviously will only be a tiny part of it.


We can also cut Mo Wagner and restructure his deal since he will be out most of the season.
Image
3ddman23
RealGM
Posts: 10,754
And1: 3,381
Joined: Jul 02, 2013
Location: orlando
   

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#230 » by 3ddman23 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:54 pm

SA37 wrote:
SOUL wrote:Bane is a scrub here according to people lol, the worst shooting team in the league def can't use 22/5/5 on 48/40/90 and volume :lol:

(not arguing the value, it's a LOT - just the perception of Bane changing suddenly.)


Bane is a very good SG, but this is Mikal Bridges/Rudy Gobert-level overpay.

I think Bane fits with the Magic system since he isn't a ball-dominant player. The Magic are betting Banchero as the #1 option and Wagner and Bane being 2-3 depending on the day is good enough to make a Pacer-like run to the Finals.

I can't really blame the Magic for making this move, but I don't know how they were convinced they could give up so much.


You mean the same overpay that got both of those teams to the conference finals with a chance to go to the finals??? That overpay?
GO MAGIC
3ddman23
RealGM
Posts: 10,754
And1: 3,381
Joined: Jul 02, 2013
Location: orlando
   

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#231 » by 3ddman23 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:57 pm

djsunyc wrote:
SA37 wrote:
SOUL wrote:Bane is a scrub here according to people lol, the worst shooting team in the league def can't use 22/5/5 on 48/40/90 and volume

(not arguing the value, it's a LOT - just the perception of Bane changing suddenly.)


Bane is a very good SG, but this is Mikal Bridges/Rudy Gobert-level overpay.

I think Bane fits with the Magic system since he isn't a ball-dominant player. The Magic are betting Banchero as the #1 option and Wagner and Bane being 2-3 depending on the day is good enough to make a Pacer-like run to the Finals.

I can't really blame the Magic for making this move, but I don't know how they were convinced they could give up so much.

gobert at least changed the identity of the entire team. absolute elite defender.

bridges and bane are good role players that fit but wont give that same level of gobert impact. in fact, knicks defense got worse this year.


The magic already have an identity defensively. They need elite offense/ shooting and that is what bane is. They most likely aren't done tooling this roster as well. They are a sure fire top 4 team in the east, they just need to stay healthy.
GO MAGIC
JujitsuFlip
RealGM
Posts: 15,219
And1: 9,400
Joined: Sep 10, 2021

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#232 » by JujitsuFlip » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:58 pm

Rainwater wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:Yeah I wouldn’t do that… it isn’t like he is a all nba or all star player.


He was an all star
Nope, never has been.
User avatar
Message Boar
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,888
And1: 2,472
Joined: Apr 07, 2019
Location: The Netherlands
       

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#233 » by Message Boar » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:58 pm

Holy overpay.

First reaction: I don't like it. Sure he's a shooter, but he plays the same position as Suggs, ultimately. Stop trying to make this Suggs as the main point guard thing happen (although with Franz/Paolo you don't need playmaking AS badly).

We'll see how it turns out though. Bane is a good player who can shoot, which does help.
FrightCoward
Junior
Posts: 341
And1: 349
Joined: May 18, 2022

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#234 » by FrightCoward » Sun Jun 15, 2025 4:59 pm

Those picks will most likely be in the 20 range and end up being players of little consequence so who cares. Bane is very good and fills a huge need for Orlando.
3ddman23
RealGM
Posts: 10,754
And1: 3,381
Joined: Jul 02, 2013
Location: orlando
   

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#235 » by 3ddman23 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:00 pm

djsunyc wrote:well whatever the case, the magic are definitely a better team going into next season so that's a win right now.



Not right now. For a long time. Why are we forgetting that Paolo, fran & suggs are still 23 and under lol. They magic are going to be good for a long time.
GO MAGIC
basketballRob
RealGM
Posts: 37,526
And1: 14,987
Joined: May 05, 2014
     

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#236 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:00 pm

Message Boar wrote:Holy overpay.

First reaction: I don't like it. Sure he's a shooter, but he plays the same position as Suggs, ultimately. Stop trying to make this Suggs as the main point guard thing happen (although with Franz/Paolo you don't need playmaking AS badly).

We'll see how it turns out though. Bane is a good player who can shoot, which does help.
Bane can play PG. He had two 14 assists games last season.

Sent from my SM-G998U1 using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
bushybrah_
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,641
And1: 1,475
Joined: Jul 28, 2013
Location: ATL
     

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#237 » by bushybrah_ » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:00 pm

What a dumb trade.
User avatar
JayMKE
RealGM
Posts: 29,379
And1: 17,245
Joined: Jun 21, 2010
Location: LA
     

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#238 » by JayMKE » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:01 pm

there aint a single team in the NBA with the assets to make a fair offer for Giannis

I get Orlando blowing their wad on Bane altho this is an overpay imo, the east right now is so wide open.
FREE GIANNIS
3ddman23
RealGM
Posts: 10,754
And1: 3,381
Joined: Jul 02, 2013
Location: orlando
   

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#239 » by 3ddman23 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:02 pm

jokeboy86 wrote:Think the Pacers making the Finals is going to make a lot of teams in the East thinking they're not that far off from that level. Add in Boston being w/o Tatum and the Bucks w/o Lillard and a team like Orlando probably feels if they're healthy now all they have to worry about is a healthy Cleveland team. I dont think the Magic fear the Knicks or the Pacers at all



They don't the magic have played the Knicks & pacers really well the last couple of season. The magic went 7 games and almost knocked out the cavs last playoffs.

The time is now for Orlando. They can go deep next playoff if they stay healthy. Mark my words
GO MAGIC
bkkrh
Sixth Man
Posts: 1,599
And1: 2,120
Joined: Apr 12, 2024
 

Re: Shams: Grizzlies trade Desmond Bane to Magic for KCP, Cole Anthony, 4 1sts, 1 Pick Swap... 

Post#240 » by bkkrh » Sun Jun 15, 2025 5:04 pm

the craziest part would really be the unprotected 2026 Phoenix pick. Why not put a Top 10, or at least a Top 5 protection on it?

Return to The General Board