Kon Knueppel

[azcatz11]

I can’t believe people still think he’s going to score well in the NBA… and that’s assuming he can get minutes despite getting blown by on the perimeter on defense. He’s slow, can’t dribble, doesn’t have quick twitch feet. He measures out like a 6’6” stretch big. How is that gonna work?

I mean, I was a smart basketball player and could shoot and I am (was) 6’4”. I was an early bloomer and stopped growing at 15. Was a center in kid’s ball, a big forward in junior high, and a normal-sized forward in high school. I was mostly worthless as a high schooler, because I could only guard bigs and was undersized, couldn’t create my own shot, and was an unexceptional athlete. Kon is eighty rungs above me, but he’s going to look like me in high school against real pros. I just don’t see the appeal.

I am sorry you were never good at basketball... What does that have to do with Kon?

I was wondering the same thing lol. At least he admits he sucked

[ReggiesKnicks]

If you compare him to Luke Kennard at Duke it’s really no comparison. Kennard was a way better on ball player and is way more fast twitch. Kennard is still very underrated and will hopefully get a legit shot this year

Kennard was also older.

I think an underrated aspect people do when comparing first to second year college stats is the amount of growth (both physically and from a basketball developmental sense).

The amount of development in just 8 months at a college is significantly more than at a highly prestigious high school or prep school.

Kon seems like a guy who, if he returned to school, would be in the running for AP-1 player of the year.

You should look at Kennard's reshman year and lack of handle and his growth to year 2 in that regard.

[tmorgan]

I can’t believe people still think he’s going to score well in the NBA… and that’s assuming he can get minutes despite getting blown by on the perimeter on defense. He’s slow, can’t dribble, doesn’t have quick twitch feet. He measures out like a 6’6” stretch big. How is that gonna work?

I mean, I was a smart basketball player and could shoot and I am (was) 6’4”. I was an early bloomer and stopped growing at 15. Was a center in kid’s ball, a big forward in junior high, and a normal-sized forward in high school. I was mostly worthless as a high schooler, because I could only guard bigs and was undersized, couldn’t create my own shot, and was an unexceptional athlete. Kon is eighty rungs above me, but he’s going to look like me in high school against real pros. I just don’t see the appeal.

I am sorry you were never good at basketball... What does that have to do with Kon?

I’m sorry you can’t read and feel the need to post this way.

Since you have comprehension issues: For a pro, Kon is an unexceptional athlete, won’t create his own shot, and won’t be able to guard his position as a 2 or 3. That was very close to my situation in high school. He’s going to be over drafted and be a disappointment.

[tmorgan]

If you compare him to Luke Kennard at Duke it’s really no comparison. Kennard was a way better on ball player and is way more fast twitch. Kennard is still very underrated and will hopefully get a legit shot this year

Kennard was also older.

I think an underrated aspect people do when comparing first to second year college stats is the amount of growth (both physically and from a basketball developmental sense).

The amount of development in just 8 months at a college is significantly more than at a highly prestigious high school or prep school.

Kon seems like a guy who, if he returned to school, would be in the running for AP-1 player of the year.

You should look at Kennard's reshman year and lack of handle and his growth to year 2 in that regard.

On the other hand, there have been a number of PotY types that have not translated to the pros, because they were great shooters, good enough athletically for college but not the pros, and didn’t really do anything defensively. Sounds like Kon.

[ReggiesKnicks]

If you compare him to Luke Kennard at Duke it’s really no comparison. Kennard was a way better on ball player and is way more fast twitch. Kennard is still very underrated and will hopefully get a legit shot this year

Kennard was also older.

I think an underrated aspect people do when comparing first to second year college stats is the amount of growth (both physically and from a basketball developmental sense).

The amount of development in just 8 months at a college is significantly more than at a highly prestigious high school or prep school.

Kon seems like a guy who, if he returned to school, would be in the running for AP-1 player of the year.

You should look at Kennard's reshman year and lack of handle and his growth to year 2 in that regard.

On the other hand, there have been a number of PotY types that have not translated to the pros, because they were great shooters, good enough athletically for college but not the pros, and didn’t really do anything defensively. Sounds like Kon.

Yup, definitely possible Kon doesn't work out. Definitely possible he does.

[Jcool0]

I can’t believe people still think he’s going to score well in the NBA… and that’s assuming he can get minutes despite getting blown by on the perimeter on defense. He’s slow, can’t dribble, doesn’t have quick twitch feet. He measures out like a 6’6” stretch big. How is that gonna work?

I mean, I was a smart basketball player and could shoot and I am (was) 6’4”. I was an early bloomer and stopped growing at 15. Was a center in kid’s ball, a big forward in junior high, and a normal-sized forward in high school. I was mostly worthless as a high schooler, because I could only guard bigs and was undersized, couldn’t create my own shot, and was an unexceptional athlete. Kon is eighty rungs above me, but he’s going to look like me in high school against real pros. I just don’t see the appeal.

I am sorry you were never good at basketball... What does that have to do with Kon?

I’m sorry you can’t read and feel the need to post this way.

Since you have comprehension issues: For a pro, Kon is an unexceptional athlete, won’t create his own shot, and won’t be able to guard his position as a 2 or 3. That was very close to my situation in high school. He’s going to be over drafted and be a disappointment.

Your playing career... or to be more accurate lack of one, has ZERO barring on what Kon will do in the NBA. You are not a comparison to him. He was the Rivals #9 player in the country as a HS senior and after one year at Duke he is going to be drafted in the top 10. And FWIW when Cooper was out for the ACC Tournament Kon averaged 21 points, 5.7 rebounds, 4.7 assists & 1.7 steals as Dukes best player going 3-0. You don't have to like him, but you should probably get over your failed playing days. You will be happier.

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[tmorgan]

I am sorry you were never good at basketball... What does that have to do with Kon?

I’m sorry you can’t read and feel the need to post this way.

Since you have comprehension issues: For a pro, Kon is an unexceptional athlete, won’t create his own shot, and won’t be able to guard his position as a 2 or 3. That was very close to my situation in high school. He’s going to be over drafted and be a disappointment.

Your playing career... or to be more accurate lack of one, has ZERO barring on what Kon will do in the NBA. You are not a comparison to him. He was the Rivals #9 player in the country as a HS senior and after one year at Duke he is going to be drafted in the top 10. And FWIW when Cooper was out for the ACC Tournament Kon averaged 21 points, 5.7 rebounds, 4.7 assists & 1.7 steals as Dukes best player going 3-0. You don't have to like him, but you should probably get over your failed playing days. You will be happier.

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I get it. Analogous situations are too much for you. Noted.

[JRoy]

I am sorry you were never good at basketball... What does that have to do with Kon?

I’m sorry you can’t read and feel the need to post this way.

Since you have comprehension issues: For a pro, Kon is an unexceptional athlete, won’t create his own shot, and won’t be able to guard his position as a 2 or 3. That was very close to my situation in high school. He’s going to be over drafted and be a disappointment.

Your playing career... or to be more accurate lack of one, has ZERO barring on what Kon will do in the NBA. You are not a comparison to him. He was the Rivals #9 player in the country as a HS senior and after one year at Duke he is going to be drafted in the top 10. And FWIW when Cooper was out for the ACC Tournament Kon averaged 21 points, 5.7 rebounds, 4.7 assists & 1.7 steals as Dukes best player going 3-0. You don't have to like him, but you should probably get over your failed playing days. You will be happier.

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Surrounded by legitimate nba lotto picks covering him.

[Braggins]

I don't know how anyone who has seen both of these players move on a basketball court could compare Kon to CJ McCollum... And Klay Thompson was an all-nba defender. Where in the world are these comps coming from.

Klay Thompson made one 2nd team All Defense in year 8 so lets calm down a little.

And Kon is someone who will get hunted on defense every play. The difference is still huge regardless of specifically how many all-defense teams Klay made. I assure you Kon will never even be close to being in the discussion to make a single all-defense team.

[Braggins]

Kon is 6'5" and had a slower lane agility time than Hansen Yang, who is a 7+ footer that people are worried about being too slow to be a drop coverage center in the league, and people are acting like Kon is going to a plus defender guarding NBA guards...

[JMAC3]

If someone clipped Kon's best 20 plays of the season together, where do you think the average scout would assume he should get drafted would be?

[JMAC3]

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I think Max Shuga is actually a better basketball player right now than Kon. Now if Kon learns to shoot off the dribble or vastly improves his handle then yeah maybe he works out. However, Kon basically showed none of that over the course of this season- so drafting him top 5 assuming he just will get good at things he currently doesn't do seems like an awfully big shot in the dark to me.

[greg4012]

If you compare him to Luke Kennard at Duke it’s really no comparison. Kennard was a way better on ball player and is way more fast twitch. Kennard is still very underrated and will hopefully get a legit shot this year

Kennard was also older.

I think an underrated aspect people do when comparing first to second year college stats is the amount of growth (both physically and from a basketball developmental sense).

The amount of development in just 8 months at a college is significantly more than at a highly prestigious high school or prep school.

Kon seems like a guy who, if he returned to school, would be in the running for AP-1 player of the year.

You should look at Kennard's reshman year and lack of handle and his growth to year 2 in that regard.

On the other hand, there have been a number of PotY types that have not translated to the pros, because they were great shooters, good enough athletically for college but not the pros, and didn’t really do anything defensively. Sounds like Kon.

See Jimmer Fredette at the PG position. Now apply that to Kon at the SG/wing position.

[greg4012]

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Take off a couple inches, add a few pounds of muscle, and subtract some athletic juice.

[azcatz11]

If someone clipped Kon's best 20 plays of the season together, where do you think the average scout would assume he should get drafted would be?

Undrafted

[Jcool0]

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Take off a couple inches, add a few pounds of muscle, and subtract some athletic juice.

15 year career. 585 starts. 37% 3P%. Had a 19/5/4 season in Indiana and then had a serious knee injury that almost ended his career. The fact he had 221 starts after that is impressive.

[greg4012]

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Take off a couple inches, add a few pounds of muscle, and subtract some athletic juice.

15 year career. 585 starts. 37% 3P%. Had a 19/5/4 season in Indiana and then had a serious knee injury that almost ended his career. The fact he had 221 starts after that is impressive.

Yea Kon has one of the better floors in this class. He will maintain a role in this league for a long time with the skills he has.

People just go crazy reaching for upside cases that aren't based in reality.

[Catchall]

What if the 'K' is actually silent?

[azcatz11]

He is on the bill Simmons pod. Tremendous kid. He’s going too 5

[SNPA]

Kon is 6'5" and had a slower lane agility time than Hansen Yang, who is a 7+ footer that people are worried about being too slow to be a drop coverage center in the league, and people are acting like Kon is going to a plus defender guarding NBA guards...

Another reason to join the Yang gang.