BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap)

[RichCollab]

Magic could get either one of the Jones brothers, Tre Jones from the Bulls or Tyus as a free agent, as a veteran backup PG if that's the direction they want to go.

Tyus as a fit off the bench doesn’t bother me now given Cole is gone and the other 3 guards have size and solid to great D.

Tyus sign for vet min like he did for the Suns?

[Ducklett]

Not only is this a horrible trade but if Orlando get a starting point guard we are going to have either Suggs or Bane’s making $30million+ coming off the bench.

At this point the Magic need a decent floor general thats all.

What we need is to bring in a grizzled vet to teach Suggs and hire Steve nash to coach Suggs (a la Ewing coaching Dwight).

[Hogified05]

PSA: The Magic cannot trade the 25th pick in this upcoming draft until after the pick is made since they traded away their 2026 1st.

So if they're trading it away, it would be post draft.

I’m hoping Clayton Jr is there for us.

He is a forgone conclusion IMO unless another move is made. About as sure of it as TDS pick.

I hope he is there man. He is about perfect off the bench for us. I would use TDS or Jett to trade up for whoever takes him if not. Hopefully he is just there at 25.

Also there is still a bunch of different variations of trades you can make via the trade machine with Portland and Simons. If you plug Simons and Clingan in you could go JI and Jett or JI and TDS for them. You could do Goga/WCJ/Jett for them. You could just do JI for Simons straight up. Could get Williams instead of Clingan. I don't know how the long term contract and stuff would work out...But I'm simply saying if Portland wants to play ball Simons is still an option to be had. Probably would be it for Clayton who would be a better price...but would definitely be in win now mode if we got Simons.

I'm also more than cool with dangling Carter and one of Jett/TDS for something. Goga/Moe rotation at the 5 is fine by me. Goga is cheaper and we were fine with im starting at the 5 and Moe is great off the bench.

[tiderulz]

All the assets we acquired over the years and we used some for Desmond Bane? This was one of my worst fears giving away more than what was necessary. I bet he’ll come in and average less than his career average or get some kind of injury because that’s how it always goes for us.

18 ppg+ scorer for the last 4 years, career 41% from 3, good defensively, in his prime, and that was a "worst fear"

if you think he is going to get some injury and that Orlando is fated to fail, why not just go cheer for another team? this team even right now can legit compete for a top-4 seed.

[basketballRob]

the fact that we got Bane and not a PG says to me that no good PG is available

Bane is basically a PG. He had two 14 assists games last season.

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he is a willing passer, but he is not even close to a PG

Only 2 other players had more pts, rebs, and assists than Bane did last season. LeBron and Jokic.

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[Optimus_Steel]

I don't like the comparison to the Ibaka trade at all. We gave up Oladipo in that trade, an actual good young player we had used the #2 pick on. And Ibaka was brought in basically to be our best player, which is laughable. In this trade, we're not really giving up any existing players, only theoretical future players. Which are valuable, but the point is, I don't think these two trades are comparable at all.

Agreed, this Ibaka trade comparison is really laughable.

[tiderulz]

For f*** sake and 2026 pick swap.

"TOP 8 " DOES NOT MEAN SUNS KEEP PICK IF IT'S TOP 8, TOP 8 IS REFERENCE FOR WIZARDS PART OF A DEAL AS THEY DON'T "OWN" 2026 PICK, IT GOES TO KNICKS IF IT FALL FROM THAT TOP 8 PROTECTION.

But Wizards just won 18 games and are least talented nba team, so their part of the deal is going anywhere.

AND PHOENIX MAY NOT TRADE DURANT AND FINISH WITH THE 13TH PICK. OMG, HOW COULD WE TRADE AWAY THE 13TH PICK?

[thelead]

I’m hoping Clayton Jr is there for us.

He is a forgone conclusion IMO unless another move is made. About as sure of it as TDS pick.

I hope he is there man. He is about perfect off the bench for us. I would use TDS or Jett to trade up for whoever takes him if not. Hopefully he is just there at 25.

Also there is still a bunch of different variations of trades you can make via the trade machine with Portland and Simons. If you plug Simons and Clingan in you could go JI and Jett or JI and TDS for them. You could do Goga/WCJ/Jett for them. You could just do JI for Simons straight up. Could get Williams instead of Clingan. I don't know how the long term contract and stuff would work out...But I'm simply saying if Portland wants to play ball Simons is still an option to be had. Probably would be it for Clayton who would be a better price...but would definitely be in win now mode if we got Simons.

Clingan was their lotto pick last year and he played well. Why would they give him up in a rebuild???

[yoyojw17]

I personally think Black is worth (2) FRP’s so you could look at this trade as Weltman valuing Blacks upside more than middling future picks.

Which one looks better to you?

KCP
Anthony Black
Cole Anthony
#16
‘28 FRP (unprotected)
‘30 FRP (unprotected)

Or

KCP
Cole Anthony
#16
‘26 FRP via PHX
‘28 FRP (unprotected)
‘29 FRP (swap)
‘30 FRP (unprotected)

Ot aure if Black is worth 2 1sts tbh. The guy cant shoot. He is jack of all trades, master of none.

If he is elite at something, he’d be more valuable.

He's a second year "point guard".... Give him some slack. Best thing is.... When he plays great ....WE play great. Once his comfort catches up ... And he becomes consistent.... He is an integral part of our team and our future.

[Furinkazan]

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it doesnt matter how many picks we gave up ....what matters is our plan

[Knightro]

Maybe I am just panicking though.

It was a heavy price to pay, but you're also panicking a little bit.

Bane has averaged 5.4 assists per game over the last two years combined.

It feels a good bit unfair to label him as a "3PT shooting specialist" - he can do more than that.

[tiderulz]

For f*** sake and 2026 pick swap.

"TOP 8 " DOES NOT MEAN SUNS KEEP PICK IF IT'S TOP 8, TOP 8 IS REFERENCE FOR WIZARDS PART OF A DEAL AS THEY DON'T "OWN" 2026 PICK, IT GOES TO KNICKS IF IT FALL FROM THAT TOP 8 PROTECTION.

But Wizards just won 18 games and are least talented nba team, so their part of the deal is going anywhere.

Pepe is correct.

The Wizards have the right to swap with the Suns first and THAT swap is "top 8 protected" because the Wizards owe the Knicks a pick.

However, it's highly likely the Wizards will be worse than the Suns which will make their swap not matter.

The Magic, after the Wizards have either swapped OR THEIR SWAP DID NOT CONVEY, have the right to swap with the Suns unprotected.

who cares? if PHX doesnt trade Durant and blow it completely up, it still isnt going to be a top-3 pick.

[SOUL]

It was a heavy price to pay, but you're also panicking a little bit.

"Before we trade Franz, Suggs, and maybe Paolo and start another rebuild because we set our ceiling too low a la AG, Vuc, and Evan."

I'd say so.

[mattyBoi]

The only realistic acquisition (maybe) that I would rather have is Trae Young. Bane is going to be great, can get us 30 any given night. We are done with the Harris/KCP days.

Now we focus on the rest of the roster. A high-quality backup PG needs to happen. Do we upgrade at starting C?

[Optimus_Steel]

Collecting my thoughts here lol

1. Fantastic trade... This is the all in move that you make to make you an Elite team whilst not compromising the identity of your team and not giving much up much when it comes to player personnel.

This team literally gave up little to NOTHING to get this guy. On top of that still having tradable assets like a Goga, Issac, Carter Jr., Black, Suggs, and even Banes in their pack pocket for smaller moves or to get some future draft picks/prospects and to avoid cap hell.

Them trading these draft pick are inconsequential in the grand scheme of things when it comes to them having assets already on their team to swap for other assets when the time comes.

2. They did right by KCP/Anthony... The front office traded them to a team that's a good team that's not garbage. I'm happy they did that.

3. I think there are likely 2 maybe 3 more moves that will be made in the off season for the bench. Obviously I'm assuming most likely a draft day trade will happen will happen involving Jonathan Issac/Goga/Black/Harris to move up to get either a PG or C (or both) of their liking.

I'm really liking what they're doing right now. And clearly they're not done wheeling and dealing. Let's get it...

Complete agree with your assessment.

[tiderulz]

My head will explode from this 2026 crap.

TOP 8 PICK IS NOT REFERD TO SUNS PROTECTION.

Top 8 is reference to Wizards part of the deal, as they don't own 2026 pick, it goes to Knicks if it falls outside protection of top 8.

If in some scenario Suns win lottery, and Wizards have 9th pick, in past Magic, now Grizzlies will have ability to swap pick and have 1st overall pick.

Suns have no ability to control pick swaps nor any protection on it.

This is why whole media is refering to our trade as 4 UNPROTECTED PICKS.

2026- unprotected ( if WIzards are involved pick can't only be 1# pick, but can be 2-29, if Wizards lose pick it can be 1-29 pick)
2028- unprotected
2030 - unprotected
2027- top 2 protected pick swap ( meaning, pick is unprotected if it falls between 3-29 )

our heads are exploding from your constant CHICKEN LITTLE syndrome.

[bigdogdylan5]

The players we traded were salary filler. KCP and Cole were awful last year.

2025 pick - no big deal, we still have 25
2026 pick - this is the gem of the deal, probably a top 10 pick
2028 pick - will likely not be a lottery pick
2030 pick - will likely not be a lottery pick

For one of the best SG in the league. This is a great deal. GREAT. Finally Weltman.

2026 is the most ill informed pick ever it’s top 8 protected so if it’s top 10 it has to be 9-10

I hadn’t seen that restriction. Is that written on any reputable site?

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[tiderulz]

Really great fit for Orlando’s needs.

Still missing a true PG tho and like everyone else said, 5 FRPs for a non-all star is a big pill to swallow. I like Orlando, so hope it all works out for you and he doesn’t come in and see his stats drop to a 16-18ppg player…

its four 1st rounds and then a swap. and at the two unprotected will be in the 20's

yes its a gamble, but the team will compete for a top-4 spot in the east next year

[Redwood]

I was hoping the trade would include Suggs, but I'm very happy that Cole and KCP are gone. What a disastrous signing KCP was, unreal.

Very few, if any, players that get hurt as much as Suggs has his first few seasons end up being reliably healthy players for the rest of their career. The odds are his injuries continue and one day, probably pretty soon, his value will reach zero.

But at least two D-League players are now off the roster, thankfully.

[Hogified05]

He is a forgone conclusion IMO unless another move is made. About as sure of it as TDS pick.

I hope he is there man. He is about perfect off the bench for us. I would use TDS or Jett to trade up for whoever takes him if not. Hopefully he is just there at 25.

Also there is still a bunch of different variations of trades you can make via the trade machine with Portland and Simons. If you plug Simons and Clingan in you could go JI and Jett or JI and TDS for them. You could do Goga/WCJ/Jett for them. You could just do JI for Simons straight up. Could get Williams instead of Clingan. I don't know how the long term contract and stuff would work out...But I'm simply saying if Portland wants to play ball Simons is still an option to be had. Probably would be it for Clayton who would be a better price...but would definitely be in win now mode if we got Simons.

Clingan was their lotto pick last year and he played well. Why would they give him up in a rebuild???

Maybe they are committed to Ayton...They played well towards the end of the year...lol I dunno guy can dream right? I do think Simons can be had if they wanna hand the keys to Scot...all I'm saying is there are variations where Simons can still be had if they would still like to pursue him.