NBA General Discussion: 2025 Offseason

[mjkvol]

Wow…if that’s the price for Bane what is Giannis worth?? There aren’t enough 1st’s in the world apparently
Between this and the Bridges trade the cost of good, not great, players is going to get out of control. The OKC/Indy model of team building is going to become the norm. Let other teams make dumb decisions overpaying for players that won’t win championships and build through the draft and targeting underrated role players at a reasonable price.

Some of us have been screaming this is the approach we should have been taking for the last several years, while others kept advocating the "short window" and trading for and signing washed mid-30's "stars".

I don't agree that the OKC/IND model is going to become the norm, because while the evidence has been clear for at least 3-4 years that it is the smart approach, and even more so with the new CBA, we continue to see teams throwing multiple 1st's at good but not great players, and we'll see more of it as the summer goes on.

My first reaction to the Bane trade is astonishment at how little teams value draft picks, when it's through the draft that great teams are built and there are no more valuable chips to use in a trade to improve your roster. But we're always going to have decision makers on a short leash that feel the need to win now and have little concern about the future of a franchise.

[Iverson Armband]

One of those picks is #16 and the rest are going to be similar or trash anyways.

Orlando desperately needed a shooter to go along with their two wings, don’t see the problem.

[Kobblehead]

Orlando is going to be a powerhouse team in the East.

[mjkvol]

One of those picks is #16 and the rest are going to be similar or trash anyways.

Orlando desperately needed a shooter to go along with their two wings, don’t see the problem.

You don't think there was a better deal they could make than to empty their asset pool for a non-all star shooting guard? To me, you go all in only if you know you're one move short of championship contention. Do you see Orlando as a real contender with Bane? Because short of moving Franz or Banchero, they are out of bullets.

[mjkvol]

Orlando is going to be a powerhouse team in the East.

Title contender?

[Iverson Armband]

One of those picks is #16 and the rest are going to be similar or trash anyways.

Orlando desperately needed a shooter to go along with their two wings, don’t see the problem.

You don't think there was a better deal they could make than to empty their asset pool for a non-all star shooting guard? To me, you go all in only if you know you're one move short of championship contention. Do you see Orlando as a real contender with Bane? Because short of moving Franz or Banchero, they are out of bullets.

I think if there was a better deal, then they probably would have done that.

Bane isn’t Paul George. He’s a very good still young player and fits tremendously with that roster. Their biggest weakness was 3pt shooting and Bane solves that. Can’t keep kicking the can down the road forever, they have their two stud wings now it’s time to win. The East is wide open, they are very much in the picture next year IMO. Would you have had Indiana in the Finals for ‘25 this time last year?

[stormi]

Holy ****, just saw the Bane trade.

Yea, Kon is a top five prospect in this draft if that's how his archetype is valued.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Anthony Black and Jett Howard are busted lotto picks in my opinion. Black is probably a role player and Howard may eventually just be out of the league. Had they hit on those two, I might say Orlando has a shot at contender status, but I don't see it, even with the Bane addition. Playoff team? Sure, and there's still no telling how good Wagner and Banchero can become. The level that those two reach will ultimately decide their fate.

[mjkvol]

One of those picks is #16 and the rest are going to be similar or trash anyways.

Orlando desperately needed a shooter to go along with their two wings, don’t see the problem.

You don't think there was a better deal they could make than to empty their asset pool for a non-all star shooting guard? To me, you go all in only if you know you're one move short of championship contention. Do you see Orlando as a real contender with Bane? Because short of moving Franz or Banchero, they are out of bullets.

I think if there was a better deal, then they probably would have done that.

Bane isn’t Paul George. He’s a very good still young player and fits tremendously with that roster. Their biggest weakness was 3pt shooting and Bane solves that. Can’t keep kicking the can down the road forever, they have their two stud wings now it’s time to win. The East is wide open, they are very much in the picture next year IMO. Would you have had Indiana in the Finals for ‘25 this time last year?

I don't have any problem with going after Bane, who I'd take on my team in a second. I have a big problem with the price teams are willing to pay for guys like Bane and Mikal Bridges, another player I've always liked. These are good complimentary players, not huge difference makers, and mortgaging the future for them is just bad business. IMO.

[Mik317]

Bane was buns in the playoffs no?

I don't get it from Orlando's perspective at all..Yeah he's a shooter but they desperately needed an actual guard who can set up AND shoot.

[Murray_17]

Orlando is going to be a powerhouse team in the East.

They still don't have a reliable PG and their entire spacing comes from Bane.

I say, at the moment, they're at best a second-round exit.

[Negrodamus]

I like Bane, he’s probably itching for more responsibility on offense. I think tier below all-star is where you Orlando targets because no superstar wants to move to Orlando.

I think they’ll be a fun team, could surprise in the playoffs and make ECF if they stay healthy and everyone else has the injury bug.

But I agree, the price was a bit crazy.

[JordanMars]

awful trade for orlando. sixers will have a better record

[Iverson Armband]

You don't think there was a better deal they could make than to empty their asset pool for a non-all star shooting guard? To me, you go all in only if you know you're one move short of championship contention. Do you see Orlando as a real contender with Bane? Because short of moving Franz or Banchero, they are out of bullets.

I think if there was a better deal, then they probably would have done that.

Bane isn’t Paul George. He’s a very good still young player and fits tremendously with that roster. Their biggest weakness was 3pt shooting and Bane solves that. Can’t keep kicking the can down the road forever, they have their two stud wings now it’s time to win. The East is wide open, they are very much in the picture next year IMO. Would you have had Indiana in the Finals for ‘25 this time last year?

I don't have any problem with going after Bane, who I'd take on my team in a second. I have a big problem with the price teams are willing to pay for guys like Bane and Mikal Bridges, another player I've always liked. These are good complimentary players, not huge difference makers, and mortgaging the future for them is just bad business. IMO.

I understand that, but I think times have changed. It’s now $20 for a decent plain pizza nowadays. It sucks, but that’s the price.

[Negrodamus]

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[Arsenal]

Holy ****, just saw the Bane trade.

Yea, Kon is a top five prospect in this draft if that's how his archetype is valued.

Although basically the same size, Desmond Bane is WAY more athletic than Kon:

Agility (sec): 11.92 Kon vs. 11.13 Bane
Sprint (sec): 3.35 Kon vs. 3.47 Bane
Shuttle (sec): 2.92 Kon vs. 2.50 Bane
Max Vert (in): 36.5 Kon vs. 41.0 Bane

Desmond Bane is Kon Kneuppel's ceiling, and considering Bane's far superior athleticism, it's unlikely Kon will be that good.

[youngcrev]

Orlando's been wasting decent picks for years, so why not?

[stormi]

Holy ****, just saw the Bane trade.

Yea, Kon is a top five prospect in this draft if that's how his archetype is valued.

Although basically the same size, Desmond Bane is WAY more athletic than Kon:

Agility (sec): 11.92 Kon vs. 11.13 Bane
Sprint (sec): 3.35 Kon vs. 3.47 Bane
Shuttle (sec): 2.92 Kon vs. 2.50 Bane
Max Vert (in): 36.5 Kon vs. 41.0 Bane

Desmond Bane is Kon Kneuppel's ceiling, and considering Bane's far superior athleticism, it's unlikely Kon will be that good.

This is an outrageous post, if you're being dead serious.

Bane is smaller than Kon and has an actual negative wingspan. He also never reached freshman Kon's heights as a driver, finisher or shooter as a 4 year college player.

Ace Bailey fans unironically rank prospects by triathlon splits.

[Arsenal]

Holy ****, just saw the Bane trade.

Yea, Kon is a top five prospect in this draft if that's how his archetype is valued.

Although basically the same size, Desmond Bane is WAY more athletic than Kon:

Agility (sec): 11.92 Kon vs. 11.13 Bane
Sprint (sec): 3.35 Kon vs. 3.47 Bane
Shuttle (sec): 2.92 Kon vs. 2.50 Bane
Max Vert (in): 36.5 Kon vs. 41.0 Bane

Desmond Bane is Kon Kneuppel's ceiling, and considering Bane's far superior athleticism, it's unlikely Kon will be that good.

This is an outrageous post, if you're being dead serious.

Bane is smaller than Kon and has an actual negative wingspan. He also never reached freshman Kon's heights as a driver, finisher or shooter as a 4 year college player.

Ace Bailey fans unironically rank prospects by triathlon splits.

There's very little chance Kon will be as good as Bane because he's an INFERIOR athlete, period.

The draft is for the NBA, not college.

[stormi]

Although basically the same size, Desmond Bane is WAY more athletic than Kon:

Agility (sec): 11.92 Kon vs. 11.13 Bane
Sprint (sec): 3.35 Kon vs. 3.47 Bane
Shuttle (sec): 2.92 Kon vs. 2.50 Bane
Max Vert (in): 36.5 Kon vs. 41.0 Bane

Desmond Bane is Kon Kneuppel's ceiling, and considering Bane's far superior athleticism, it's unlikely Kon will be that good.

This is an outrageous post, if you're being dead serious.

Bane is smaller than Kon and has an actual negative wingspan. He also never reached freshman Kon's heights as a driver, finisher or shooter as a 4 year college player.

Ace Bailey fans unironically rank prospects by triathlon splits.

There's very little chance Kon will be as good as Bane because he's an INFERIOR athlete, period.

The draft is for the NBA, not college.

If this is how you view the game of basketball and this isn't some sort of bit, refrain from quoting me because it's the last time you'll be dignified with a response.