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The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2

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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2121 » by Slim Charless » Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:42 pm

This should mean the #2 or Castle have to be on the table for SAS. Also we need at 2 of our picks back from Houston if either team wants KD
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2122 » by Revived » Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:45 pm

thamadkant wrote:Booker could get 5 first rounders and a decent couple of young talent...

Given that Bane is a superior defensive player or at least has the reputation to be a solid defender.

Ishiba should be gauging Booker's value in any case.

If Booker wasn’t from the state of Michigan and was instead from like Ohio (big state of Michigan rival) then Booker would’ve already been traded away.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2123 » by TeamTragic » Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:45 pm

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thamadkant wrote:Booker could get 5 first rounders and a decent couple of young talent...

Given that Bane is a superior defensive player or at least has the reputation to be a solid defender.

Ishiba should be gauging Booker's value in any case.

If Booker wasn’t from the state of Michigan and was instead from like Ohio (big state of Michigan rival) then Booker would’ve already been traded away.


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Post#2124 » by SunsRback4Good » Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:48 pm

Revived wrote:
thamadkant wrote:Booker could get 5 first rounders and a decent couple of young talent...

Given that Bane is a superior defensive player or at least has the reputation to be a solid defender.

Ishiba should be gauging Booker's value in any case.

If Booker wasn’t from the state of Michigan and was instead from like Ohio (big state of Michigan rival) then Booker would’ve already been traded away.


Ok.
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Post#2125 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 15, 2025 6:55 pm

Revived wrote:
thamadkant wrote:Booker could get 5 first rounders and a decent couple of young talent...

Given that Bane is a superior defensive player or at least has the reputation to be a solid defender.

Ishiba should be gauging Booker's value in any case.

If Booker wasn’t from the state of Michigan and was instead from like Ohio (big state of Michigan rival) then Booker would’ve already been traded away.


I doubt the bane trade changes ishbias mind but it should
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2126 » by KdoubleDees23 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:01 pm

Suns can get 6 picks and they won’t draft a star! Get players now that you know what to expect !
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2127 » by thamadkant » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:06 pm

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Suns: Claxton/Jabari/27+29 picks returned

Rockets: Durant

Nets: Jalen Green/Royce

We would cut almost 30 millon off our books and get the later picks back. This also allows Houston to keep this year's pick. Nets get a playere that can get them 40 on any given night and someone to build around while keeping all of their picks.

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I would rather get Green than Claxton.

Or reroute Green to Grizzlies for a package to get Jaren Jackson Jr.
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Post#2128 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:07 pm

I don't think it's that bad of a deal for Orlando. All those picks might be meh type mid rounders.
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Post#2129 » by sunsbg » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:19 pm

Bane is 26 and fits better with Magic stars than KD/Beal with Booker, but still looks like overpay. We thought there is no way Suns picks end in lottery with our "superteam" but here we are. Injuries happen, etc. I doubt MEM rejects the offer if the picks had top 1-3 protection, so Magic FO looks as stupid as ours to me.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2130 » by Slim Charless » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:22 pm

thamadkant wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
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Suns: Claxton/Jabari/27+29 picks returned

Rockets: Durant

Nets: Jalen Green/Royce

We would cut almost 30 millon off our books and get the later picks back. This also allows Houston to keep this year's pick. Nets get a playere that can get them 40 on any given night and someone to build around while keeping all of their picks.

:dontknow:

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I would rather get Green than Claxton.

Or reroute Green to Grizzlies for a package to get Jaren Jackson Jr.


We don't have the stuff to get JJJ, unless its Book going out. If Ish wants a MSU guy, then its Jace Richardson. My idea though, does fix our front court as Claxton/Jabari/Dunn are all under 27 years old and we save a ton of money and get our picks back. We can now tank if/when Booker DOES decide he wants out by this time next year.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2131 » by Slim Charless » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:24 pm

I also dont think MEM is blowing it up, they just got an offer they couldnt refuse. They took that haul from ORL and will figure out the details later.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2132 » by dremill24 » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:25 pm

thamadkant wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
Read on Twitter


Suns: Claxton/Jabari/27+29 picks returned

Rockets: Durant

Nets: Jalen Green/Royce

We would cut almost 30 millon off our books and get the later picks back. This also allows Houston to keep this year's pick. Nets get a playere that can get them 40 on any given night and someone to build around while keeping all of their picks.

:dontknow:

?


I would rather get Green than Claxton.

Or reroute Green to Grizzlies for a package to get Jaren Jackson Jr.


I dont think its fait accompli that the Grizz are now just selling off all their veterans for draft picks. They've been a good-but-not-great team for a few years and still have All Star level players under 30 on the roster. They can use these resources to build around Ja and/or JJJ and just try to get better with different pieces around their incumbent stars (should sound familiar if you're paying attention). Could also be they just got an offer they couldnt refuse.

But it is possible of course. If that were the case, there would be no shortage of suitors for JJJ. TBH I think the only way its even a possibility is if you just reroute basically everything you get in a KD deal to Memphis for him (even then it might not be enough). Just rerouting your least favorite piece (e.g., Green) seems unlikely to get it done.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2133 » by TeamTragic » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:26 pm

Slim Charless wrote:I also dont think MEM is blowing it up, they just got an offer they couldnt refuse. They took that haul from ORL and will figure out the details later.


They just gave up Bane for two role players. This deal was obviously completed with another trade in mind.

We have seen rumors that either Ja or JJJ might be put on the trade block.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2134 » by Slim Charless » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:37 pm

TeamTragic wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:I also dont think MEM is blowing it up, they just got an offer they couldnt refuse. They took that haul from ORL and will figure out the details later.


They just gave up Bane for two role players. This deal was obviously completed with another trade in mind.

We have seen rumors that either Ja or JJJ might be put on the trade block.


Two role players......and 4 FRPs. Love how you left that detail out of the post.

Thats the reason Bane is a Magic today. The picks. The rest is just noise. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt that either Ja or J³ are traded this summer.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2135 » by TeamTragic » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:43 pm

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Slim Charless wrote:I also dont think MEM is blowing it up, they just got an offer they couldnt refuse. They took that haul from ORL and will figure out the details later.


They just gave up Bane for two role players. This deal was obviously completed with another trade in mind.

We have seen rumors that either Ja or JJJ might be put on the trade block.


Two role players......and 4 FRPs. Love how you left that detail out of the post.

Thats the reason Bane is a Magic today. The picks. The rest is just noise. I could be wrong, but I highly doubt that either Ja or J³ are traded this summer.


Grizzlies were a play-in team and did nothing in the playoffs.

Those picks don't help them get better unless they are included in a follow up trade.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2136 » by thamadkant » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:48 pm

TeamTragic wrote:
Slim Charless wrote:I also dont think MEM is blowing it up, they just got an offer they couldnt refuse. They took that haul from ORL and will figure out the details later.


They just gave up Bane for two role players. This deal was obviously completed with another trade in mind.

We have seen rumors that either Ja or JJJ might be put on the trade block.



It could be a run for Giannis, KD or another player about to be on the block that is currently under the radar.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2137 » by RaisingArizona » Sun Jun 15, 2025 7:57 pm

Feels like that was a big overpay but will probably help us set the market so I like it
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2138 » by BobbieL » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:08 pm

RaisingArizona wrote:Feels like that was a big overpay but will probably help us set the market so I like it


I am not sure it will help the Durant market. But Ishbia and Gregory should be thinking about Booker.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2139 » by thamadkant » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:14 pm

KD to Raptors for Poetl, Pick 9 and Barrett and a future lottery protected pick

Then

Rockets change their sights to Booker, offers Suns 2027 and 2029 picks, plus 3 future Rockets first rounders, Green and Jabari Smith Jr

Would be a haul and a good start for a rebuild.

Keep Beal as tank commander until he becomes an expiring contract and ups his value by leading Suns in scoring.
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Re: The Official 2025 Offseason Thread Part 2 

Post#2140 » by sunsbg » Sun Jun 15, 2025 8:27 pm

I assume the news about trading Allen/Royce mean they'll just let Beal expire as they should.

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