2025 NBA Draft Class

[babyjax13]

I...think I might move Carter Bryant to the top-5 of my big board over Ace (and possibly VJ).

As a Wizards fan i would be fine with taking Carter at 6.

I would be against drafting a wing that can't dribble anywhere in the lottery. Not a great track record of these guys expanding their game or excelling in their role.

This is my main concern, and I am questioning if this is exclusively a Carter Bryant issue, or partially a coaching issue. It really feels like his role was restricted, he seemed to pause a lot as if he were thinking "coach told me to get this to a guard immediately". He displayed good passing, and in some of his last games I felt like the handle was a little better. I decided not to move him up from where I have him (I think 8?) because of this, but I really like his archetype in the modern NBA.

[tmorgan]

I’m still seeing mocks with Jase going lottery and Essengue and Coward in the 20’s. This is craziness. If the actual GMs are this clueless… no, it can’t be, can it?

Crazy draft this year. One of the few I can remember where trading the 6th or 7th pick for two picks in the early to mid teens makes a ton of sense to me. Wonder if we’ll see any maneuvering like that.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I’m still seeing mocks with Jase going lottery and Essengue and Coward in the 20’s. This is craziness. If the actual GMs are this clueless… no, it can’t be, can it?

Crazy draft this year. One of the few I can remember where trading the 6th or 7th pick for two picks in the early to mid teens makes a ton of sense to me. Wonder if we’ll see any maneuvering like that.

Mocks don't change overnight or even weekly. It takes a while.

Hot-take, Essengue goes over Bailey.

No way should a team move down from 6 or 7 to the teens. They miss out on Essengue/Fears then.

[azcatz11]

Does Tyrese Proctor have a chance at sneaking into R1? He's bigger than I thought he was. He's about 6'4 and a half without shoes...that's impressive or maybe it's not because it seemed like he played smaller. People are throwing out comps like Grimes but less physical version. Seems like people don't trust his shooting and think he was getting wide open looks bc of Kon and Flagg.

[tmorgan]

I’m still seeing mocks with Jase going lottery and Essengue and Coward in the 20’s. This is craziness. If the actual GMs are this clueless… no, it can’t be, can it?

Crazy draft this year. One of the few I can remember where trading the 6th or 7th pick for two picks in the early to mid teens makes a ton of sense to me. Wonder if we’ll see any maneuvering like that.

Mocks don't change overnight or even weekly. It takes a while.

Hot-take, Essengue goes over Bailey.

No way should a team move down from 6 or 7 to the teens. They miss out on Essengue/Fears then.

If teams are gonna take Kon, Maluach and that ilk with those mid-lottery picks, it makes sense to me. I’d rather have 13 and 15 than that regardless of who goes beforehand — and yes, I’ll assume guys like Essengue are gone, but who the heck really knows with all this crazy crap I’m seeing.

I mean, Jase Richardson is a 6’1” guy who put up 12 points on nice shooting numbers and nothing else at all interesting. I know who his Dad is, so what? This is Jett Howard all over again.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I’m still seeing mocks with Jase going lottery and Essengue and Coward in the 20’s. This is craziness. If the actual GMs are this clueless… no, it can’t be, can it?

Crazy draft this year. One of the few I can remember where trading the 6th or 7th pick for two picks in the early to mid teens makes a ton of sense to me. Wonder if we’ll see any maneuvering like that.

Mocks don't change overnight or even weekly. It takes a while.

Hot-take, Essengue goes over Bailey.

No way should a team move down from 6 or 7 to the teens. They miss out on Essengue/Fears then.

If teams are gonna take Kon, Maluach and that ilk with those mid-lottery picks, it makes sense to me. I’d rather have 13 and 15 than that regardless of who goes beforehand — and yes, I’ll assume guys like Essengue are gone, but who the heck really knows with all this crazy crap I’m seeing.

I mean, Jase Richardson is a 6’1” guy who put up 12 points on nice shooting numbers and nothing else at all interesting. I know who his Dad is, so what? This is Jett Howard all over again.

I've seen him late 1st and early 2nd.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Carter looks and plays like an impactful 3 and D player. You have to remember coaching at the college level stifles more often than not especially when the offense goes through high usage chuckers with delusions of grandeur like Caleb Love. So it's sometimes similar to how stats for overseas prospects don't look that impressive and you have to look past them. With so many underwhelming guys after the first handful I'd just as soon take a chance on him as I would anyone else

[JMAC3]

Carter looks and plays like an impactful 3 and D player. You have to remember coaching at the college level stifles more often than not especially when the offense goes through high usage chuckers with delusions of grandeur like Caleb Love. So it's sometimes similar to how stats for overseas prospects don't look that impressive and you have to look past them. With so many underwhelming guys after the first handful I'd just as soon take a chance on him as I would anyone else

I think he goes in lottery for a lot of the reasons you said, once you get past the guys that have star potential then he checks a lot of the boxes as a guy that seems content to defend and stand in the corner and shoot open threes. I have him top 10 because he feels like a safe bet to at least be a solid rotation role player and eventually be a starter.

However, lot of red flags in his profile still. His two most involved offensive games of the year he shot 10 times and 9 times. He shot over 3 FTA in a game 3 times this year. He shot under 70% from free throw despite being sold as his best offensive skill is shooting. He has never scored more than 14 pts in a college game.

I think you are hoping for a Tari Eason type of player and maybe an OG type in his best outcomes.

[clyde21]

So Magic just traded their 16th overall in this draft + essentially four future firsts, KCP and Cole Anthony for Desmond Bane, a 3nD 2-guard

this tells you more about what they think of 1st round picks moving forward than it does Bane. 1st round picks are turning into dog food in the NBA.

[tmorgan]

So Magic just traded their 16th overall in this draft + essentially four future firsts, KCP and Cole Anthony for Desmond Bane, a 3nD 2-guard

this tells you more about what they think of 1st round picks moving forward than it does Bane. 1st round picks are turning into dog food in the NBA.

Or… the Magic are extremely desperate for quality three point shooting and overpaid for one of the best shooters in the league.

[clyde21]

So Magic just traded their 16th overall in this draft + essentially four future firsts, KCP and Cole Anthony for Desmond Bane, a 3nD 2-guard

this tells you more about what they think of 1st round picks moving forward than it does Bane. 1st round picks are turning into dog food in the NBA.

Or… the Magic are extremely desperate for quality three point shooting and overpaid for one of the best shooters in the league.

that's cope, they traded their 4th and 5th best shooters (Cole, KCP) last year for Bane, and FIVE first rounders, regardless of how you slice it it's an insane **** deal.

we've been seeing real time devaluation of draft assets the last like 5 years and it's just getting worse. 1st round picks outside like the top 5 are literally worth nothing at this point.

[ReggiesKnicks]

So Magic just traded their 16th overall in this draft + essentially four future firsts, KCP and Cole Anthony for Desmond Bane, a 3nD 2-guard

this tells you more about what they think of 1st round picks moving forward than it does Bane. 1st round picks are turning into dog food in the NBA.

Or… the Magic are extremely desperate for quality three point shooting and overpaid for one of the best shooters in the league.

Sounds like a lot of teams were desperate over the past 5 seasons.

Minnesota - 2 WCF Appearances in 3 years
Knicks - 1 ECF Appearance in 1 year
Indiana - NBA Finals Appearance and ECF Appearance in 2 years
Phoenix - No such post-season success
Cleveland - One of best RS of all-time and injury plagued post-season

I may be forgetting some 3+ 1sts-for-player trades, but they have been overwhelmingly success with Clippers and Brooklyn being completely detailed by injury following their trades.

[shangrila]

So Magic just traded their 16th overall in this draft + essentially four future firsts, KCP and Cole Anthony for Desmond Bane, a 3nD 2-guard

this tells you more about what they think of 1st round picks moving forward than it does Bane. 1st round picks are turning into dog food in the NBA.

Or… the Magic are extremely desperate for quality three point shooting and overpaid for one of the best shooters in the league.

that's cope, they traded their 4th and 5th best shooters (Cole, KCP) last year for Bane, and FIVE first rounders, regardless of how you slice it it's an insane **** deal.

we've been seeing real time devaluation of draft assets the last like 5 years and it's just getting worse. 1st round picks outside like the top 5 are literally worth nothing at this point.

Neither Cole nor KCP were league average from 3, while the team as a whole was dead last in 3s made and 3pt%.

While I agree it's an overpay, even with the context it's not the 5 UNPROTECTED 1STS!!11!!1! the media is reporting, I don't think it represents a devaluing of picks. Cheap, controlled players are becoming increasingly important under the new cap environment. I'd argue it's instead a representation of the overall parity in the league where teams like Orlando feel they're one move away from the CF if not the Finals.

[FarBeyondDriven]

One of the picks, let's use their 2028 likely late first, was used to get out from under the onerous KCP and Anthony contracts. The Magic clearly don't view the 2025 draft class as strong so happily included that. The real potential values are the Suns 2026 pick and Magic 2030 picks. The Suns pick for obvious reasons; they are likely trading KD and while they won't be tanking there's no guarantee they'll get a return that will allow them to be good enough to stay out of the lottery of next year's loaded draft. The 2030 Magic pick could be good because who knows what happens between now and then? It's probably a late 1st though given their young core.

So a mid-1st in a weak draft, two late round picks years from now, and the Suns possible great 2026 pick isn't THAT crazy a price to pay for an entering his prime Bane who is exactly what the Magic need and will potentially allow them to make deep playoff runs which is all you can really ask for if you're a small market team. This is similar to the Mitchell, Gobert, and Bridges trades which all allowed the teams trading for them to make deep playoff runs so weren't nearly as lop-sided as realgm would have you believe.

Great trade for the Grizzlies obviously. Good possible great trade for the Magic.

[BigGargamel]

So Magic just traded their 16th overall in this draft + essentially four future firsts, KCP and Cole Anthony for Desmond Bane, a 3nD 2-guard

this tells you more about what they think of 1st round picks moving forward than it does Bane. 1st round picks are turning into dog food in the NBA.

Or… the Magic are extremely desperate for quality three point shooting and overpaid for one of the best shooters in the league.

that's cope, they traded their 4th and 5th best shooters (Cole, KCP) last year for Bane, and FIVE first rounders, regardless of how you slice it it's an insane **** deal.

we've been seeing real time devaluation of draft assets the last like 5 years and it's just getting worse. 1st round picks outside like the top 5 are literally worth nothing at this point.

I posted in another thread that the Pacers and Celtics are the only two teams from picks 13 on that actually still have their first round pick.

All those picks the Jazz got from the Gobert and Mitchell trades. What has that gotten them so far?

If you're trading for all of those picks, you're basically hoping one or two of them end up in the top 5. Non lottery picks are somewhat useless.

[FarBeyondDriven]

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[tmorgan]

Starting to look like there might as well not be any picks after about 40.

[EvanZ]

Watched some Beringer today. So big. Mostly bad. My spidey sense was giving me Wiseman vibes. I know he’s young but like he’s not going to magically become Sorber level IQ at the next level. He’s also slower than I’d like. Very big though. Needs to learn how to control his body better. He seems to fall down a lot. Not sure he’s physical enough. That was one of Wiseman’s biggest problems. For such a big man he was way too gentle.

[Chuck Everett]

Koby Brea, Jamir Watkins, Amari Williams all have a chance to go higher than mocked. Not a lot to like about this second though. Might see a 10-pick run on draft and stashes. Maybe Jaxson Robinson gets a look.