BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap)

[3ddman23]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/why-the-desmond-bane-trade-isnt-the-overpay-by-the-magic-that-it-appears-to-be-on-first-glance/

[MoMM]

Whether the Magic win a title or not will ultimately come down to how good Paolo is. This trade improves his supporting cast TREMENDOUSLY. Do they still need a PG? Probably. But the front office feels good with Suggs/Bane/Black handling the backcourt (possibly adding another guard in the draft at #25)...and if Paolo is an elite all nba type player we have enough to compete for a title with that group IMO.

Or if Franz and Suggs, somehow, improve their 3pt shooting.

[DiplomaticMagic]

Im most pissed about the Phoenix pick but at least now I dont have to learn about what needs to happen for it to convey because that **** was confusing af.

[tooler]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/why-the-desmond-bane-trade-isnt-the-overpay-by-the-magic-that-it-appears-to-be-on-first-glance/

My favorite line:

Banchero is so young that no trade they could legally make at this stage of their roster build could possibly bankrupt his future

No matter how stupid they are, the front office isn't legally able to ruin Banchero's prime. That's a relief for all of us!

[yoyojw17]

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Simons, White, Poole, etc. not same-same

[dkb964]

Pretty terrible deal for the Magic value wise considering the 2026 Suns/Wizards pick was included. I can understand it though from the mangament. You are watching maybe the Pacers win the title and think that Banchero can be a true superstar and have Franz/Bane/Suggs around him, then why not us?

[I Rasharted]

It's an overpay, but Weltman hadda do something. Magic desperately needed a guard who can put the ball in the hole. Bane can do that. Fine with the picks, whateva.

Be interesting to see what else happens this offseason.

[Bensational]

On paper, this is a seriously great move by Weltman. I was really high on following the Boston blueprint and going after a Derrick White-type player. Bane is that guy, but younger and fitting the team’s timeline.

Weltman really found a bit of an unspoken gem in Bane. Everyone else was focused on Simon’s and Poole and Weltman had Bane in his crosshairs.

[Black and Blue]

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/why-the-desmond-bane-trade-isnt-the-overpay-by-the-magic-that-it-appears-to-be-on-first-glance/

Great article. We should keep in mind how teams pay a premium for players like Bane who can fit into any offensive style when the moron ESPN talking heads this week are just parroting “FoUr PiCkS?!”

[Black and Blue]

I just heard Bane is 6’5” and 215 pounds. My exact measurements.

(Looks down at arms, looks at photo of Bane.)

Yeah we aren’t the same. I’ll be at the gym if you need me.

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[BlueBalls]

Half of those picks were the cost of getting rid of KCP. He is a negative and had no trade value. If you want player like Bane, then it would have cost us Suggs and keeping KCP with less picks. Ill gladly get rid of KCP and give up future picks that will likely be late FRP.

That’s the worst part. The price tag was much higher than it needed to be for Weltman to free the franchise from that multi-million dollar brain fart we affectionately know refer to as KCP.

Imagine having the transmission of your overpriced “buy here, pay here” 2002 BMW 325i with 3 tinted windows fall out. Car was worth 2500 but hey, BMW, right? So you finance it for 7k. To replace it, you have to roll all that negative equity into a new loan for a nice, reliable car. So you end up with a decent set of wheels but you paid almost twice what it was worth because of the stupid decision you made a year ago. That’s this trade.

[yoyojw17]

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I think as the sticker shock wears off.... people might be more on board.

[shadrock]

I simply cant comprehend how people are saying this is an overpay?

For starters, getting rid of Cole and KCP is addition by subtraction. If we wanted to offload these two alone, we probably have to attach an unprotected first to their 35 million combined deals to do so. They are NOT assets. They are dead weight and we should be greatful they are off the team.

In terms of the picks, how many more mid to late first round picks do we need? Our roster is littered with them. No amount of Caleb Houstons, Chuma Okekes ands Jett Howards are going to get this team to the finals. Sure on paper four picks SOUNDS like a lot, but when you think these picks are probably all going to be between 20 and 30 in the draft, who honestly cares? We also didnt give up Suggs, which in itself is worth more than all of those picks combined. We have been saying for years we need to consolidate our roster into top tier talent, and this is what we have done. We also have a LOT of draft equity left after this trade, with #25 pick this year (via Denver), our own FRP in 2026 and 2027, and a swap or our own in 2029. So the youth will still be rolling in.

Banes deal is also fantastic. For starters, hes locked in until 2029 so theres no risk of losing him in a year etc and looking like idiots. And whilst he is on big money, its two years old big money, and nothing close to the albatross deals we are seeing thrown around nowadays.

To those who are saying this is an overpay, go and break it down on paper, stop thinking on emotional terms only, and it becomes pretty clear pretty fast we have given up four or five B- assets for an A+ asset, all whilst NOT losing any big name players, and whilst DUMPING deadweight salary, which is exactly the type of dream deal we should all be hoping for.

[thelead]

What are Bane's advanced defensive metrics? I keep reading people say he's a bad defender... I haven't dug into the numbers but I recall Bane being a good defender every time I watched him.

[thelead]

I refuse to cry about our roster when this was what it was not long ago:

Just have to upgrade WCJ now...

[shadrock]

I refuse to cry about our roster when this was what it was not long ago:

Its funny you post this image. This is probably the calibre of players the four picks we gave up will turn into. Not a bad deal when you think of it like that.

[BlueBalls]

What are Bane's advanced defensive metrics? I keep reading people say he's a bad defender... I haven't dug into the numbers but I recall Bane being a good defender every time I watched him.

He’s a very good defender. My objection to this trade is not the return. I like Bane. Quite a bit. He’ll be a great fit.

[yoyojw17]

I simply cant comprehend how people are saying this is an overpay?

For starters, getting rid of Cole and KCP is addition by subtraction. If we wanted to offload these two alone, we probably have to attact a first unprotected first to their 35 million combined to do so. They are NOT assets. They are dead weight and we should be greatful they are off the team.

In terms of the picks, how many more mid to late first round picks do we need? Sure on paper four picks SOUNDS like a lot, but when you think these picks are probably all going to be between 20 and 30 in the draft, who honestly cares? We also didnt give up Suggs, which in itself is worth more than all of those picks combined. We have been saying for years we need to consolidate talent into top tier talent, and this is what we have done.

Banes deal is also fantastic. For starters, hes locked in until 2029, and whilst he is on big money, its two years old big money, and nothing close to the albatross deals we are seeing thrown around nowadays.

To those who are saying this is an overpay, go and break it down on paper, stop thinking on emotional terms only, and it becomes pretty clear pretty fast we have up four or five B- assets for an A+ asset.

Exactly. As of now... through the life of those picks.... pretty much we will have Paolo, suggs, franz, and most of it... bane, unless we change anything... most of those picks will have lesser value. It's not like there is much fluctuation going on.... as those contracts are set.

we're already a playoff team and we still have not seen the best of Suggs, Franz and Paolo... one with DPOY potential... and two with All NBA potential. And ... then you add a near perfect complimentary player. We have locked us into competitiveness for the next 5 years... Will be tough to manage the books... but.... we will cross that road starting next season.

And this does not include rebound seasons of JI and WCJ.... and development of AB, Jett, and TDS.

Mortgaging future picks... to put ourselves in such a position is worth it.

Hopefully we win a championship or two.... but worst case scenario... 3 years from now... and it ain't working... we can blow up the team recouping draft capital because we have great players. Hopefully that's not the case. haha> #championshipdreams

[OrlandoDream]

Half of those picks were the cost of getting rid of KCP. He is a negative and had no trade value. If you want player like Bane, then it would have cost us Suggs and keeping KCP with less picks. Ill gladly get rid of KCP and give up future picks that will likely be late FRP.

That’s the worst part. The price tag was much higher than it needed to be for Weltman to free the franchise from that multi-million dollar brain fart we affectionately know refer to as KCP.

Imagine having the transmission of your overpriced “buy here, pay here” 2002 BMW 325i with 3 tinted windows fall out. Car was worth 2500 but hey, BMW, right? So you finance it for 7k. To replace it, you have to roll all that negative equity into a new loan for a nice, reliable car. So you end up with a decent set of wheels but you paid almost twice what it was worth because of the stupid decision you made a year ago. That’s this trade.

It is what it is. Teams miss on signings every single year. We swung and missed on KCP. Unlike some teams, we were able to move on from that awful contract. A toxic contract like that can freeze your roster flexibility and thereby hurting Paolo and Franz. KCP was a sh*t fit next to our star young core. Im just glad he is off the team. Complete negative trade asset who is nothing more then a washed version of himself. Good vet, but not worth 21mil per season.

[BlueBalls]

I refuse to cry about our roster when this was what it was not long ago:

Its funny you post this image. This is probably the calibre of players the four picks we gave up will turn into. Not a bad deal when you think of it like that.

Sure, if we assume each FRP and the swap would be the caliber of RJ Hampton and James Ennis. But that’s not a fair assumption.