BREAKING: Magic acquire Desmond Bane (KCP, Cole + 4 1st Round Picks + 1 1st Round Pick Swap)

[magickingdom]

I love reading these threads, until I get to the stupid people who still believe in Santa Clause.

???

Believe they can get any player for what they want to give for him. What they would like to see, not reality.

[The-Stallion70]

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Shocker

[jjohns828]

I'm glad I didn't post anything right when the trade happened because my first response was pretty negative which I think was mostly sticker shock. After some time away from the threads about this I'm on board and excited for what's next, if still slightly concerned that we gave up too much.

[Idiosyncratic]

I don’t really hate it, at least he is under control for 4 more years . Will have more thoughts when I have more time.

What I will say is that I would love to see some AB/Suggs/Bane/Franz/Paolo lineups . Two big lineups have made a return, but the finals teams have Toppin center lineups and Jdub center lineups, still a place for spurts of small ball.

[Magic#1]

Here's my opinion with the picks. It's at best maybe a 10% chance that any of those picks end up being better than Bane. That might even be putting it a little high. Of course, Memphis could find the diamond in the rough or we could have if we had the pick, but Bane would have been a top 3-4 pick in his draft class. He's absolutely worth several likely mediocre-goodish players. Unless the wheels really fall off either chemistry or injury wise, the only pick that should even sniff the lottery is the Phoenix pick next year. I get that Memphis isn't must-see TV so we haven't watched a ton of his games, but we got a flat out baller.

[VFX]

For the record here.

I don’t think this trade is necessarily an overpay because it allowed Orlando to get off KCP and Coles deals.

I just question how it’s all going to work within the system itself and how it all fits together. Teams aren’t constructed throwing random players and skillsets together hoping it all works out.

I also just don’t believe Weltman will construct bench depth out of thin air now. He has to move Isaac or Carter or something to make it all work.

[MagicMadness]

Question: The Suns 2026 pick was part of the trade. We still have our own 2026 first round pick, correct?

[DiplomaticMagic]

Im all for the trade now, but there needs to be another move. The bench really needs a guard. Not some Tyus Jones player either.

[FFBlitzace]

For the record here.

I don’t think this trade is necessarily an overpay because it allowed Orlando to get off KCP and Coles deals.

I just question how it’s all going to work within the system itself and how it all fits together. Teams aren’t constructed throwing random players and skillsets together hoping it all works out.

I also just don’t believe Weltman will construct bench depth out of thin air now. He has to move Isaac or Carter or something to make it all work.

What's random about adding Bane and his skillset though? He checks a lot of boxes. Sure, we still have to see it all play out, but I don't think it's random at all.

[thelead]

Question: The Suns 2026 pick was part of the trade. We still have our own 2026 first round pick, correct?

no. we had rights to swap with Phoenix/Washington. Our pick, along with the right to swap it with Phoenix/Washington, is now gone.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Question: The Suns 2026 pick was part of the trade. We still have our own 2026 first round pick, correct?

Yes, our own 1st and 2 srp, although I think the seconds might be included in this trade.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Question: The Suns 2026 pick was part of the trade. We still have our own 2026 first round pick, correct?

no. we had rights to swap with Phoenix/Washington. Our pick, along with the right to swap it with Phoenix/Washington, is now gone.

We only traded the Phoenix 2026 draft pick, not our own. We cannot trade back to back draft picks and since they are getting our 2025, we can’t trade our 2026.

At least I think that is how the rule goes.

[thelead]

Question: The Suns 2026 pick was part of the trade. We still have our own 2026 first round pick, correct?

no. we had rights to swap with Phoenix/Washington. Our pick, along with the right to swap it with Phoenix/Washington, is now gone.

We only traded the Phoenix 2026 draft pick, not our own. We cannot trade back to back draft picks and since they are getting our 2025, we can’t trade our 2026.

At least I think that is how the rule goes.

No. We still have a pick this year, the 25th pick, which allowed us to trade the 2026 pick I mentioned.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

I just want to put it on the record, it is not the Desmond deal I hate, it’s the fact that I truly believe that our first big trade should have been for a starting point guard and every asset possible should have gone to that.

I hope this trade does work out and I hope that my rash reactions look silly but most importantly I really hope we can get a great point guard on this team that can run a competent offense.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

no. we had rights to swap with Phoenix/Washington. Our pick, along with the right to swap it with Phoenix/Washington, is now gone.

We only traded the Phoenix 2026 draft pick, not our own. We cannot trade back to back draft picks and since they are getting our 2025, we can’t trade our 2026.

At least I think that is how the rule goes.

No. We still have a pick this year, the 25th pick, which allowed us to trade the 2026 pick I mentioned.

We only traded the Phoenix 2026 pick, we still have our own 2026 pick.

The 2025 #25 pick is the Denver pick, do they count that as our own?

[RookieStar]

Just remeber guys... Bane, despite his Trex arms and pitbull body is a 6'6 shooting guard. So he isnt undersized at the wingspot at all.

[JF5]

For the record here.

I don’t think this trade is necessarily an overpay because it allowed Orlando to get off KCP and Coles deals.

I just question how it’s all going to work within the system itself and how it all fits together. Teams aren’t constructed throwing random players and skillsets together hoping it all works out.

I also just don’t believe Weltman will construct bench depth out of thin air now. He has to move Isaac or Carter or something to make it all work.

Random Player? Bane is literally one of the best 3 point shooters in the last 5 years in the NBA.

He spreads the court at an Elite level. Creates his own shot and others while playing good defense. The other options that this team were looking at outside of Trae or LaMelo aren't as good as him. The Simons, Reeves, and Whites of the world couldn't steadily carry an offense like he did in Memphis.

LaMelo and Trae who are great playmakers and are star players still have questionable playstyles/attitudes that might not equal out to winning. Bane has been on winning teams and has a disciplined/hardnosed attitude. He fits perfectly on this team outside of the elite playmaking which it seems they'll do by committee since Paolo, Franz, Bane have all successfully done in their careers.

This is honestly the near perfect move this team could've made.

On top of that their assets are movable for other role players that fit this squad. You're telling me no one would trade for Black or Issac... or that nobody would take a cheaper contract to play next to Paolo, Franz, Bane, and Suggs?

[thelead]

We only traded the Phoenix 2026 draft pick, not our own. We cannot trade back to back draft picks and since they are getting our 2025, we can’t trade our 2026.

At least I think that is how the rule goes.

No. We still have a pick this year, the 25th pick, which allowed us to trade the 2026 pick I mentioned.

We only traded the Phoenix 2026 pick, we still have our own 2026 pick.

The 2025 #25 pick is the Denver pick, do they count that as our own?

We didn't have Phoenix's pick outright. We had the right to swap ours with theirs. Our pick, along with the right to swap with Phoenix, is now gone.

It doesn't matter that the Denver pick originates from Denver. It's 'our' pick. That allowed us to trade next year's pick (2026). Notice we didn't/couldn't trade 2027, then we traded 2028 and 2030.

[VFX]

For the record here.

I don’t think this trade is necessarily an overpay because it allowed Orlando to get off KCP and Coles deals.

I just question how it’s all going to work within the system itself and how it all fits together. Teams aren’t constructed throwing random players and skillsets together hoping it all works out.

I also just don’t believe Weltman will construct bench depth out of thin air now. He has to move Isaac or Carter or something to make it all work.

What's random about adding Bane and his skillset though? He checks a lot of boxes. Sure, we still have to see it all play out, but I don't think it's random at all.

Bane and Suggs do not orchestrate or run offense. They are not point guards that can operate a pick and roll game.

This is putting more emphasis on Paolo and Franz to “run” on-ball offense neither of which player are considered great from outside and need to improve in that area.

It’s random in terms of taking a risk in assuming his translatable skill set and tendencies will match what we have seen of him in Memphis. The Grizzlies offense is not Orlando’s. They have a point guard that draws in defenses and averages 7.5-8 assists per game. Nobody in Orlando is that player.

I will love to hear what the excuses are IF Bane’s numbers do not match his past production with this in mind.

[MasterGMer]

Per Bobby Mark, 2nd Apron is now triggered. Does that mean it is going to be after July 1st in the new NBA Calendar? Or now?

If that is the case, if Magic is above 2nd Apron, that would definitely limit our abilities. When is the deadline of declining our Team Options? Can we do that now if that is the case?

Any cap expert here?