Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 8

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Also - I'm still mad about the lottery and going to vent here.

I haven't seen any more threats against Nico's life or anything, so maybe Silver's rigging of the lottery had its intended effect. Hopefully none of those idiot fans would have taken it that far, but I guess if I was Silver, I wouldn't want that kind of thing to happen on my watch. Especially since this turd probably played a role in rigging things for the Lakers on the Luka trade.

Don't really understand why Silver needed to further help San Antonio. And Philly has had so many high lottery picks over the years it's ridiculous. They had 4 or 5 years in a row where they picked top 3. One down year and they're back in the top 3? GTFOH. We've been down for a half century. We can't get a little something thrown our way?

[DukeLecker]

Good for Orlando and pretty smart work from Memphis. Steep price for Orlando but I like that they're going for it.

Not to give more ammo to the Deni-stans, but that trade keeps looking worse for us. Deni might not be as good as Bane but he's getting close.

I bet we see a ton of movement during the draft.

Orlando really blew the 2023 draft. Black @ 6, and Jett Howard @ 11. Two total duds. To be fair, 2023 draft looking way rough. I’d give up Black & Howard x 2 for Bane even if it screws up the cap in a few years. Trade one of Suggs or Bane in three years.

[Rafael122]

Good for Orlando and pretty smart work from Memphis. Steep price for Orlando but I like that they're going for it.

Not to give more ammo to the Deni-stans, but that trade keeps looking worse for us. Deni might not be as good as Bane but he's getting close.

I bet we see a ton of movement during the draft.

Orlando really blew the 2023 draft. Black @ 6, and Jett Howard @ 11. Two total duds. To be fair, 2023 draft looking way rough. I’d give up Black & Howard x 2 for Bane even if it screws up the cap in a few years. Trade one of Suggs or Bane in three years.

Yeah, if you look at it from this perspective, them striking out on 2 lottery picks and giving KCP a contract so bad they essentially had to give up probably 2 more picks than they needed to makes it seem like the GM is cleaning up his own mess. As far as the "Orlando will be good so those picks will be in the 20s argument." We don't know that. Things change so quickly in the NBA. I bet the Magic didn't think they'd have the 16th pick in this draft this year. You just never know.

[WallToWall]

Wow!!!!

Bane's a very good player as we all know -- especially those of us who wanted him badly in he 2020 draft -- but 4 R1 picks!

The possibility exists that this is what the market dictates. If so, then we may be undervaluing our assets, and perhaps Poole is worth more than most here believe.

[montestewart]

Good for Orlando and pretty smart work from Memphis. Steep price for Orlando but I like that they're going for it.

Not to give more ammo to the Deni-stans, but that trade keeps looking worse for us. Deni might not be as good as Bane but he's getting close.

I bet we see a ton of movement during the draft.

Avdija is also 2.5 years younger than Bane. Trading to support tank and create playing time for younger players as part of a revised development timeline is reasonable, but with the lottery, tanking is no guarantee, as the Wizards experienced. Waiting to pull the trigger on the trade might have significantly increased their return without significantly altering their lottery fortunes.

Would be funny if Avdija sometime in the future lays a statement game on the Wizards (30 and 15 or something as part of a beat down), revealing that he's had a huge chip on his shoulder over the trade.

[WallToWall]

Also - I'm still mad about the lottery and going to vent here.

Me too. I dont think I'll get over it till the next draft lottery maybe. I'm venting via my signature.

[closg00]

Also - I'm still mad about the lottery and going to vent here.

Me too. I dont think I'll get over it till the next draft lottery maybe. I'm venting via my signature.

Same, the Spurs getting #2 is underrated for getting some hate towards the lottery gods

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Beal throwing bows in the locker room???

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[Kanyewest]

Beal throwing bows in the locker room???

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Maybe Beal told Wall who told Cousins.

[gambitx777]

Beal throwing bows in the locker room???

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Maybe Beal told Wall who told Cousins.

Are beal and wall even tight ?

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[NatP4]

Is Phoenix now going to trade Booker and fully rebuild??? This could be really good for us.

[nate33]

Is Phoenix now going to trade Booker and fully rebuild??? This could be really good for us.

No. I don't see them making that move. How can they rebuild without control of their picks? I think the only way they move Booker is if the trade package gets them their FRP's back, and that would be a complicated 3-team deal at a minimum.

I'm pretty sure the move here is to trade Durant for younger players and/or some picks and then try and stay relevant as a 40-win team for a while. Their biggest concern is that it looks like the market for Durant is pretty soft. Something like Durant for KAT would be great. I think the most likely scenario involves Houston. Durant for some combination of Jalen Green, Jabari Smith, Whitmore, and/or picks.

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Rumors are the deal may happen today.

[NatP4]

It’s Green, Brooks, 10th pick, five 2nd round picks.

I would assume they are going to stretch Beal’s contract? Either try and build around Jalen Green or flip him to another team. Can’t see him having much value though.

I don’t see any path forward outside of trading Booker and starting over.

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Rumors are the deal may happen today.

I'm late apparently.

Seems fair? Dude is 37.

I guess HOU isn't interested in Kispert anymore.

[NatP4]

Such a strange deal. Obviously, can’t have Green/Booker/Beal all on the same roster. No one is taking that Beal contract/giving anything of value for him in a trade. He’s getting stretched.

If they try and flip Green to another team, no one is giving up much value for him, but Booker&Green is obviously not going to work on the court either.

They didn’t clear any cap short term, took on more money long term.

[nate33]

I don’t see any path forward outside of trading Booker and starting over.

There's not much advantage to trading Booker though. They don't own their picks. As an owner, I'd rather preside over a 40-win team with Booker that's worth watching, even if they aren't a real contender, then be a bad team that doesn't even reap the benefits of tanking.

Maybe if they could trade Booker for a young star it could work. Obviously, that guy can't be quite as good as Booker or the other team wouldn't go for it. It's too bad Orlando already traded for Bane. A Booker for Wagner swap would be interesting, particularly if Maluach slips to #10:

PG Allen
SG Green
SF Wagner
PF Smith
C Maluach

[NatP4]

I don’t see any path forward outside of trading Booker and starting over.

There's not much advantage to trading Booker though. They don't own their picks. As an owner, I'd rather preside over a 40-win team with Booker that's worth watching, even if they aren't a real contender, then be a bad team that doesn't even reap the benefits of tanking.

They can get back 4-5 1st round picks for Booker. If I’m a Suns fan, I prefer that route.

[Dark Faze]

Can't blame them for going for it but I wouldn't trade #10 a draft like this unless I thought I could improve my playoff chances a lot and I don't think Houston really did with this move. Brooks and Green aren't particularly great but I think as much as KD gives you offensively you lose defensively and in the amount of minutes and games he's able to play over the course of a season. Green and Brooks played 75+ games each. And on top of that KD is about to be a free agent and is gonna want the max money he can get for his final contract. Probably 60+ mil a season.

With this CBA you should really do your best to build organically until you've got no other choice and I think Houston got impatient. They've got enough assets to still be successful but I would be wary about this if I were a Houston fan.

[nate33]

Can't blame them for going for it but I wouldn't trade #10 a draft like this unless I thought I could improve my playoff chances a lot and I don't think Houston really did with this move. Brooks and Green aren't particularly great but I think as much as KD gives you offensively you lose defensively and in the amount of minutes and games he's able to play over the course of a season. Green and Brooks played 75+ games each. And on top of that KD is about to be a free agent and is gonna want the max money he can get for his final contract. Probably 60+ mil a season.

With this CBA you should really do your best to build organically until you've got no other choice and I think Houston got impatient. They've got enough assets to still be successful but I would be wary about this if I were a Houston fan.

I kinda like it for both teams.

My guess is that Durant and Houston have already worked out an extension, and it will probably be at something a little less than the max. And the money partially comes from unloading Jalen Green's hefty contract. Houston is one shot-creator away from being a true contender, and I think Durant still has the chops to fill that role in the playoffs, particularly on a team that can afford to load manage him through the regular season.