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Post#261 » by god shammgod » Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:53 am

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The Grizzlies are not looking to deal either of their two remaining franchise cornerstones, Ja Morant and Jaren Jackson Jr., sources told ESPN's Tim Bontemps. The team has spent the past several months clearing salary cap space to complete a renegotiation and extension of Jackson's contract this offseason, preventing him from hitting free agency in 2026. The belief is that an extension will get done, sources said. But the Bane trade gives Memphis an avenue to give Jackson even more on that deal and lock him in long term.


if they're rebuilding why would they even want the older players we'd send them ? they would want young players and/or picks like they got for bane. there is no trade to be made between us and them either way.
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Post#262 » by Jeff Van Gully » Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:35 pm

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My only push back on that...is if we felt he was worth any type of trade and because of his salary I'm sure the Knicks aren't going around proposing no CBA compliant trade. So to match +50 in KD's salary they either had to put a couple big names or one big name in that trade (KAT). For KD to come out and say he's interested in the Knicks but the Knicks aren't interested in him. I doubt our level of interest changed much from the deadline to the offseason. It just is illogical.


A lot about the team could be different between then and now. Both what we know and don’t.


Very fair. I guess I'm looking at the language that KD would have put the Knicks on one of his preferred destinations but it was the Knicks that don't have interest in pursing the soon to be 37 year old.

The knicks basically have two options

KAT for KD straight up (which would be beyond risky for as much as people hate on KAT) your talking an all-star in his prime much healthier than KD.

or

Your basically gutting your depth....With the likes of some combo of Mikal, Hart, OG, or and/or Mitch.

Neither of these trades are really appealing which is why I don't think the Knicks FO is even entertaining the idea. WIth the CBA there are only a certain amount of pathways to a trade and they are either super risky or make no sense from a Knicks POV.


oh, i agree with you on why it's not the best trade for us. my point was more that it's hard to speak with a lot of certainty -- especially right now. asking prices could be different (market changes?). knicks could have reconsidered a lot since the coaching change, beating boston being a reality and not a hope, or other factors.
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Post#263 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Jun 16, 2025 12:56 pm

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For a guy like JJJ or Giannis I think that would not apply. They absolutely would let Mikal be the bridge for a player like that.


Why are these teams going to trade valuable players/franchise level players, for basically scraps? How does something like that work without a player forcing his way here? Several other teams can blow our offers away.

Until a player makes that commitment, any trade ideas should be realistic for everyone.

If Milwaukee trades Giannis they are gonna want a rebuild package. We can't help that.

If Memphis puts JJJ on the block, they are gonna want more than Bridges and scraps. They aren't gonna make a lateral move when they can get more.

People need to start focusing on the bench this summer. Our starting five is one of the best in the league. The rotations/minutes were a huge obstacle. Second to the systems we ran and some flat out terrible decision making.

Players like Grayson Allen and Royce O'Neal etc Teams looking to take little back to get cap relief. Much more realistic than the trades pushed around in here. KAT for Giannis? Why would Milwaukee want to do that? We don't have picks to sweeten deals no matter how equal we can match salaries.

Never say never though right? See OG/Mikal/KAT. Just trying to keep things a little more realistic for my expectations.



I believe Bridges is better than scraps. Much better. Him in combination with something else like a McBride, Hart or Mitch along with a pick or two (wedo have our 2026 #1 and many 2nds) can absolutely get us something.


Never said Bridges was scraps. We can't trade our first round picks.
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Post#264 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:46 pm

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KAT + JB + Thibs for JJJ + Ja + Jenkins :P

I would sell high on Ja. Don't think you can go far into the playoffs when he is one of your top 2 players.
Spectacular athlet and playmaker, but defense, shooting, health and off-court stuff are way too many red flags.

I don't see a crazy market for him, tho. Maybe teams like Brooklyn or Utah would cash assets in to have him as a ticket selling presence.

My immediate reaction on the Bane news was, Grizzlies knew they would get better value for Bane than Morant at this point, they need Ja to prove he’s in the right headspace. Memphis has now freed up enough cap flexibility to extend JJJ, which they should. The guy is only 25 so young enough to be relevant following a rebuild.


I remain hopeful that the Knicks can land JJJ, but that's just me being a fan. Possible slim chance they don't way to pay him the extension, he forces it, CAA ,etc etc.

But probably they moved Banes to be able to afford Ja/JJJ
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Post#265 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jun 16, 2025 1:56 pm

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Reign23 wrote:I would sell high on Ja. Don't think you can go far into the playoffs when he is one of your top 2 players.
Spectacular athlet and playmaker, but defense, shooting, health and off-court stuff are way too many red flags.

I don't see a crazy market for him, tho. Maybe teams like Brooklyn or Utah would cash assets in to have him as a ticket selling presence.

My immediate reaction on the Bane news was, Grizzlies knew they would get better value for Bane than Morant at this point, they need Ja to prove he’s in the right headspace. Memphis has now freed up enough cap flexibility to extend JJJ, which they should. The guy is only 25 so young enough to be relevant following a rebuild.


I remain hopeful that the Knicks can land JJJ, but that's just me being a fan. Possible slim chance they don't way to pay him the extension, he forces it, CAA ,etc etc.

But probably they moved Banes tobe able to afford Ja/JJJ


Slim chance like 10% probably. They now have flexibility to extend JJJ and Ja, plus the picks to add to that core.
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Post#266 » by BKlutch » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:07 pm

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KAT + JB + Thibs for JJJ + Ja + Jenkins :P

I would sell high on Ja. Don't think you can go far into the playoffs when he is one of your top 2 players.
Spectacular athlet and playmaker, but defense, shooting, health and off-court stuff are way too many red flags.

I don't see a crazy market for him, tho. Maybe teams like Brooklyn or Utah would cash assets in to have him as a ticket selling presence.

The stricter NYC gun laws would limit Ja's options on offense.
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Post#267 » by Grinditout » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:29 pm

Bane to Orl feels like this year's Mikal to us. Except Bane probably won't change is shooting form over the summer.
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Post#268 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:29 pm

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“Since hiring Leon Rose in 2020, the Knicks' front office has utilized its relationships often for the team's benefit. One example was hiring Jackson Jr.'s father, Jaren Jackson Sr., as an assistant coach for the Westchester G-League affiliate in 2021. From that January to May 2023, the elder Jackson served on Derrick Alston and Rose-favorite DeSagna Diop's staff.

Jackson Jr. is a former Creative Artists Agency client of Rose. The University of the Incarnate Word added Jackson Sr. to their men's basketball staff in 2023, ending his Knicks tenure

Jackson Jr. remains with CAA under agent Austin Brown. The 2023 Defensive Player of the Year has one year remaining of his four-year, $104.7 million contract.

The Knicks' front office has become infamous for its confident approaches to recruiting. It's unlikely that the franchise expected Jackson Jr. to demand a trade because of their sideline addition in Westchester. But sources familiar with the situation tell ClutchPoints that at least one key member of the Knicks' front office has long been interested in Jackson Jr. as a trade target.

The Knicks' acquisition of Karl-Anthony Towns last offseason didn't nullify this interest, either. League sources say that a Jackson Jr. and Karl-Anthony Towns frontcourt would be a ‘dream' pairing for New York in their starting lineup.

Whether or not the Grizzlies would move Jackson Jr. remains to be seen. It presented as unlikely going into the offseason, but the Bane deal with Orlando was ‘a rebuild trade‘ according to ESPN's Brian Windhorst. Would Memphis move the two-time NBA All-Star big to punt on competing in the loaded Western Conference?

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Post#269 » by Grinditout » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:32 pm

What assets do we even have to offer Memphis?
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Post#270 » by navyblue » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:36 pm

Grinditout wrote:What assets do we even have to offer Memphis?

bridges and seconds and swaps
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Post#271 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:39 pm

navyblue wrote:
Grinditout wrote:What assets do we even have to offer Memphis?

bridges and seconds and swaps


In other words, not much.
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Post#272 » by seren » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:45 pm

Honestly I don’t see Vancouver going through an entire rebuild here. The deal makes a lot of sense for a cost conscious team. Bane was a luxury for them. He doesn’t change the outcome dramatically. His absence won’t suddenly make this team bound for lottery and his presence doesn’t make the team a contender. Apart from a good amount of draft picks, they divided the contract into two cheaper players who can help them or another team. Imagine trading that Cole Anthony contract to Minnesota for one of their bigs. Minnesota needs a PG. Or any other team that needs a backup PG for that matter. If KCP can back to his previous form, he would provide 70 percent of what Bane did for half the price.

People need to realize Vancouver is one of the smallest markets there and don’t have the capacity to pay the luxury tax every year.
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Post#273 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:47 pm

seren wrote:Honestly I don’t see Vancouver going through an entire rebuild here. The deal makes a lot of sense for a cost conscious team. Bane was a luxury for them. He doesn’t change the outcome dramatically. His absence won’t suddenly make this team bound for lottery and his presence doesn’t make the team a contender. Apart from a good amount of draft picks, they divided the contract into two cheaper players who can help them or another team. Imagine trading that Cole Anthony contract to Minnesota for one of their bigs. Minnesota needs a PG. Or any other team that needs a backup PG for that matter. If KCP can back to his previous form, he would provide 70 percent of what Bane did for half the price.

People need to realize Vancouver is one of the smallest markets there and don’t have the capacity to pay the luxury tax every year.


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Post#274 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Mon Jun 16, 2025 2:54 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
seren wrote:Honestly I don’t see Vancouver going through an entire rebuild here. The deal makes a lot of sense for a cost conscious team. Bane was a luxury for them. He doesn’t change the outcome dramatically. His absence won’t suddenly make this team bound for lottery and his presence doesn’t make the team a contender. Apart from a good amount of draft picks, they divided the contract into two cheaper players who can help them or another team. Imagine trading that Cole Anthony contract to Minnesota for one of their bigs. Minnesota needs a PG. Or any other team that needs a backup PG for that matter. If KCP can back to his previous form, he would provide 70 percent of what Bane did for half the price.

People need to realize Vancouver is one of the smallest markets there and don’t have the capacity to pay the luxury tax every year.


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Post#275 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:07 pm

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KAT + JB + Thibs for JJJ + Ja + Jenkins :P


If true this is where you do a 3 team deal with another team that loves Bridges , throw in Hart or Mitch if you need to, and get Memphis enough picks for JJJ.
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Post#277 » by KnixinSix » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:11 pm

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“Since hiring Leon Rose in 2020, the Knicks' front office has utilized its relationships often for the team's benefit. One example was hiring Jackson Jr.'s father, Jaren Jackson Sr., as an assistant coach for the Westchester G-League affiliate in 2021. From that January to May 2023, the elder Jackson served on Derrick Alston and Rose-favorite DeSagna Diop's staff.

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Jackson Jr. remains with CAA under agent Austin Brown. The 2023 Defensive Player of the Year has one year remaining of his four-year, $104.7 million contract.

The Knicks' front office has become infamous for its confident approaches to recruiting. It's unlikely that the franchise expected Jackson Jr. to demand a trade because of their sideline addition in Westchester. But sources familiar with the situation tell ClutchPoints that at least one key member of the Knicks' front office has long been interested in Jackson Jr. as a trade target.

The Knicks' acquisition of Karl-Anthony Towns last offseason didn't nullify this interest, either. League sources say that a Jackson Jr. and Karl-Anthony Towns frontcourt would be a ‘dream' pairing for New York in their starting lineup.

Whether or not the Grizzlies would move Jackson Jr. remains to be seen. It presented as unlikely going into the offseason, but the Bane deal with Orlando was ‘a rebuild trade‘ according to ESPN's Brian Windhorst. Would Memphis move the two-time NBA All-Star big to punt on competing in the loaded Western Conference?

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Post#278 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:13 pm

8516knicks wrote:Supposedly Orlando has to renounce option on one of four players. Two - Gary Harris and Caleb Houstan -- often shoot over 37% from three. Houstan is listed as a 6'8" GUARD. The other two are Wagner's brother Moritz (so probably a keeper for them?) and Cory Joseph. Though 33, would he be a good 10 minute cheap Brunson backup? Houstan sounds most intriguing. Anyone have opinions on him? On his D?


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Post#279 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:15 pm

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KAT + JB + Thibs for JJJ + Ja + Jenkins :P

I would sell high on Ja. Don't think you can go far into the playoffs when he is one of your top 2 players.
Spectacular athlet and playmaker, but defense, shooting, health and off-court stuff are way too many red flags.

I don't see a crazy market for him, tho. Maybe teams like Brooklyn or Utah would cash assets in to have him as a ticket selling presence.

The stricter NYC gun laws would limit Ja's options on offense.


Ja would end up in prison like Plaxico
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Post#280 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Jun 16, 2025 3:20 pm

Memphis isn't trading JJJ.

Outside of free agency, I don't see any huge changes to this group. We just need to address areas of concern.

We need to add another wing and another ball handler. What else?
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