BOS-CHI-DAL-DET-GSW Trade

[Billl]

The pistons will operate as an over the cap team and won’t have space to do this.

Remember that under this CBA, you can use the MLE as a trade exception, so they could do this if they wanted and should still have have plenty of room under the tax with any reasonable contracts given to Dennis/Beasley.

Not saying they should use their exception for this, just that its possible.

No, that would mean losing beasley. We don't have bird rights on him so we are going to use most/all of the MLE to sign him.

[oldncreaky]

The pistons will operate as an over the cap team and won’t have space to do this.

Remember that under this CBA, you can use the MLE as a trade exception, so they could do this if they wanted and should still have have plenty of room under the tax with any reasonable contracts given to Dennis/Beasley.

Not saying they should use their exception for this, just that its possible.

No, that would mean losing beasley. We don't have bird rights on him so we are going to use most/all of the MLE to sign him.

If DET operates as an over the cap team, to retain Beasley we can either
(1) Use the NTMLE on him
or
(2) sign him with early Bird rights, which restricts how much of a raise they can give him from his $6M salary (Aside: is that 20% more, or has that now 40% under the news CBA?)

I'm not sold on Beasley as a long-term piece because I've seen a lot of players have their best season on an expiring contract, and never regain that form/value. He has been in the NBA for 9 years, and this was his best season by a lot, and yet he was still an awkward fit in our play-off line up. A lot of it depends on the salary: if we give Beasley a full NTMLE of 3yrs/$46M, I think we might regret it. I'd be a lot more comfortable with a deal that's at a lower number that translates to 3rd-highest bench player (maybe 3yrs/$25M)

But I guess we have to trust Weaver Langdon to make the right call

[Billl]

Remember that under this CBA, you can use the MLE as a trade exception, so they could do this if they wanted and should still have have plenty of room under the tax with any reasonable contracts given to Dennis/Beasley.

Not saying they should use their exception for this, just that its possible.

No, that would mean losing beasley. We don't have bird rights on him so we are going to use most/all of the MLE to sign him.

If DET operates as an over the cap team, to retain Beasley we can either
(1) Use the NTMLE on him
or
(2) sign him with early Bird rights, which restricts how much of a raise they can give him from his $6M salary (Aside: is that 20% more, or has that now 40% under the news CBA?)

I'm not sold on Beasley as a long-term piece because I've seen a lot of players have their best season on an expiring contract, and never regain that form/value. He has been in the NBA for 9 years, and this was his best season by a lot, and yet he was still an awkward fit in our play-off line up. A lot of it depends on the salary: if we give Beasley a full NTMLE of 3yrs/$46M, I think we might regret it. I'd be a lot more comfortable with a deal that's at a lower number that translates to 3rd-highest bench player (maybe 3yrs/$25M)

But I guess we have to trust Weaver Langdon to make the right call

We don't have early bird rights on Beasley. You need to be under contract 2 years for that. All we can do is offer up to a 20% raise, which probably isn't getting it done.

I'm not sold on giving him a big contract, but a 6th man deal is typically around the MLE. And yes, he had a good year, but he had years where he's shot better from 3 and years where he has scored more points. It was his 5th season hitting 3+ 3's per game and he's widely considered an elite volume 3 point shooter. Over the last 3 years, he's #2 in total 3's made. But really, that's it. If you expect him to do a lot more than that you will likely be disappointed. If you let him just take uncontested 3's off rotation, he can knock them down.

[oldncreaky]

No, that would mean losing beasley. We don't have bird rights on him so we are going to use most/all of the MLE to sign him.

If DET operates as an over the cap team, to retain Beasley we can either
(1) Use the NTMLE on him
or
(2) sign him with early Bird rights, which restricts how much of a raise they can give him from his $6M salary (Aside: is that 20% more, or has that now 40% under the news CBA?)

I'm not sold on Beasley as a long-term piece because I've seen a lot of players have their best season on an expiring contract, and never regain that form/value. He has been in the NBA for 9 years, and this was his best season by a lot, and yet he was still an awkward fit in our play-off line up. A lot of it depends on the salary: if we give Beasley a full NTMLE of 3yrs/$46M, I think we might regret it. I'd be a lot more comfortable with a deal that's at a lower number that translates to 3rd-highest bench player (maybe 3yrs/$25M)

But I guess we have to trust Weaver Langdon to make the right call

We don't have early bird rights on Beasley. You need to be under contract 2 years for that. All we can do is offer up to a 20% raise, which probably isn't getting it done.

I'm not sold on giving him a big contract, but a 6th man deal is typically around the MLE. And yes, he had a good year, but he had years where he's shot better from 3 and years where he has scored more points. It was his 5th season hitting 3+ 3's per game and he's widely considered an elite volume 3 point shooter. Over the last 3 years, he's #2 in total 3's made. But really, that's it. If you expect him to do a lot more than that you will likely be disappointed. If you let him just take uncontested 3's off rotation, he can knock them down.

Mostly agree

The 3 first things I want off the bench are:
1) A PG who can run the offence
2) A C who can anchor the bench D
3) Shooting, shooting, and more shooting

I really wouldn't want to devote a full NTMLE to shooting off the bench. In the new CBA, I think that's a luxury that is difficult to afford and stay under the aprons.